Grooming gangs

[ouzo]

Of course it was racist. To stop and search anyone by anything arbitrary is wrong. To do it solely by the colour of their skin is racist. There’s no denying it.

People like you are very confused. You stop and search people because you suspect them of being involved in criminality. That could be because they are in certain locations and/or are behaving in certain ways. Including group behaviour. That’s justified. Stopping someone solely because of their physical appearance isn’t. Ensuing the difference is explained and understood, both within the police force and by the public is essential.

Sorry, but haven't you argued that race is a social construct and has nothing to do with the colour of our skins. So how is searching someone by skin colour racist?

 

[McAhuna]

What’s the point of this tale victimhood? You want sympathy?

Even as a teenager myself Brixton wasn’t a place to spend any time in. You would be wiser to ask your parents why on earth they thought it a suitable place to bring up a child. Yes there were riots there. What caused them? It was anger at the Police for unfair stop and search tactics combined with years of racial discrimination in local housing policy. You seeing drivers dragged out of cars there has obviously coloured your judgement. Those doing the dragging being simply criminals. The colour of their skin being irrelevant.

So your parents took you to the backwater of Wisbech, but your chose to go back and get to see the “darker” side of human nature. Why, if it was so awful did you do that? I suspect you liked the fighting. More discolouration of your judgement. Everyone’s experiences shapes them, and yours certainly has, but not positively.

Wow.
Blame the parents for kids who are brought up in rough neighbourhoods!
That's as fascist as it gets. What a C***.

 

[beak]

Unrelated to grooming gangs but fair enough. He can have his day in court. Feels like the media love that but aren't interested in the widespread continuing grooming gangs in their own country. I wonder why that is.

I would say that Epstein ,Maxwell and friends were running a grooming gang, A posh billionaire one but there was collusion, they were grooming not much else you can call it, it sounds like a duck, it swims like a duck, perhaps not a Mallard maybe an Eider or a Merganser still a duck.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Wow.
Blame the parents for kids who are brought up in rough neighbourhoods!
That's as fascist as it gets. What a C***.

Wow indeed.

What a horrible post and one that reveals a lot about this fella.

I won't answer him because the situation around my parents and my early childhood are far from ideal and indeed involve a lot of bad decisions and in some cases people.....but lots of people have a variation of that. However, his politics made my life worse than it had to be because pro immigration politics destroyed Brixton, which was once a far better area.

I can't find his post anyway.

I had to grow up in and deal with the worsened reality that his politics creates and lots of people have to deal with it and have their lives harmed to this day......we can see his real attitudes in that post.

 

[McAhuna]

Wow indeed.

What a horrible post and one that reveals a lot about this fella.

I won't answer him because the situation around my parents and my early childhood are far from ideal and indeed involve a lot of bad decisions and in some cases people.....but lots of people have a variation of that. However, his politics made my life worse than it had to be because pro immigration politics destroyed Brixton, which was once a far better area.

I can't find his post anyway.

I had to grow up in and deal with the worsened reality that his politics creates and lots of people have to deal with it and have their lives harmed to this day......we can see his real attitudes in that post.

There is an irony in his post, which will no doubt be lost on him.
It actually reveals a fairly extreme right-wing mindset - I mean, in the harsh traditional sense of the term (as opposed to the farcial woke modern version of 'extreme right wing' that applies to almost everyone).

That attitude, the poor deserve to be poor, would have embarrassed Thatcher. Yet here is one of our resident 'progressives' casually chucking it in without a second thought.
I think it is because he hasn't been told what to say on this subject, so his true self reveals itself.
As you say, it speaks volumes.

 

[Stirlingsays]

There is an irony in his post, which will no doubt be lost on him.
It actually reveals a fairly extreme right-wing mindset - I mean, in the harsh traditional sense of the term (as opposed to the farcial woke modern version of 'extreme right wing' that applies to almost everyone).

That attitude, the poor deserve to be poor, would have embarrassed Thatcher. Yet here is one of our resident 'progressives' casually chucking it in without a second thought.
I think it is because he hasn't been told what to say on this subject, so his true self reveals itself.
As you say, it speaks volumes.

Those that have read his posts for years have detected that in him. In my view he covers up a lot of his actual attitudes with his support for the 'current liberal thing' and taking the chief anti right wing position on the site. It gets him a lot of 'Dan' type fans.

But he's let slip many a time.

Like we suspect he did with his gas maintenance.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Sorry, but haven't you argued that race is a social construct and has nothing to do with the colour of our skins. So how is searching someone by skin colour racist?

It’s the attitude which is racist. Including categorising people by their skin colours.

 

[McAhuna]

Those that have read his posts for years have detected that in him. In my view he covers up a lot of his actual attitudes with his support for the 'current liberal thing' and taking the chief anti right wing position on the site. It gets him a lot of 'Dan' type fans.

But he's let slip many a time.

Like we suspect he did with his gas maintenance.

I've noticed this phenomenon.

Those who adopted tyrannical 'woke' politics often don't come from a traditional socialist background.
They more are often corporate HR types who just see wokeness as an opportunity to bully and belittle people, while feeling superior about it.

 

[Stirlingsays]

I've noticed this phenomenon.

Those who adopted tyrannical 'woke' politics often don't come from a traditional socialist background.
They more are often corporate HR types who just see wokeness as an opportunity to bully and belittle people, while feeling superior about it.

Yep, we all know the type, the brown nosing supporter of 'current thing' to make their way.

If they had been in mid 30s Germany or Mao's China, they would have been right in the thick of those regimes.

It's not about the politics.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

There is an irony in his post, which will no doubt be lost on him.
It actually reveals a fairly extreme right-wing mindset - I mean, in the harsh traditional sense of the term (as opposed to the farcial woke modern version of 'extreme right wing' that applies to almost everyone).

That attitude, the poor deserve to be poor, would have embarrassed Thatcher. Yet here is one of our resident 'progressives' casually chucking it in without a second thought.
I think it is because he hasn't been told what to say on this subject, so his true self reveals itself.
As you say, it speaks volumes.

You are on ignore, based on the quality of previous comments, but I was puzzled by Stirling’s response to your previous comment so took a look. This one confirms why I decided to ignore you! The only irony on show is that I am certain you won’t understand why.

I no more think the poor deserve to be poor than I think the rich are entitled to be rich. What a ridiculous, nonsensical idea. The poor need our help. Not our condemnation.

The only point about my remarks was to correct the idea that Brixton used to be a nice place to live. During my lifetime it always seemed a run down dump. I used to drive through it regularly in my late teens in the 60s on my way to the West End. Not a place to stop in. If there were nicer areas there, I didn’t see them. There was a reason that new arrivals made their way there. Cheaper accommodation tends to attract such people.

There is only one type of extreme right mindset. It’s frequently displayed on these pages and has nothing to do with the stupid pejorative epithet “woke”. The kind of language distortion that the pathetic right use when they have run out of arguments. Which is frequently.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Those that have read his posts for years have detected that in him. In my view he covers up a lot of his actual attitudes with his support for the 'current liberal thing' and taking the chief anti right wing position on the site. It gets him a lot of 'Dan' type fans.

But he's let slip many a time.

Like we suspect he did with his gas maintenance.

Becky took time out to put you right on the nonsense, yet you still persist. It’s not correct. It’s not funny.

Let me, once again, tell you that as none of my rental properties have a gas supply, maintenance isn’t needed!

 

[McAhuna]

none of my rental properties have a gas supply, maintenance isn’t needed!

Sheriff fatman, Slum landlord alert.

Is that because your tenants are riff-raff, who don't deserve gas?

 

[Stirlingsays]

Becky took time out to put you right on the nonsense, yet you still persist. It’s not correct. It’s not funny.

Let me, once again, tell you that as none of my rental properties have a gas supply, maintenance isn’t needed!

I don't remember any words she had with me on that.

She sent me no DMs and I don't remember her addressing me on the topic.

Are you stating that none of your rental properties have ever had a gas supply?

 

[Stirlingsays]

As we have Wisbech here say that Brixton was a dump before mass immigration to the area I feel some corrections to his insults to that era in that area are required.

Significant post-war immigration changes to Brixton began in the late 1940s/1950s (e.g., with the arrival of the Windrush generation and later waves). So his point doesn't even make much sense as in the 60s significant immigration into Brixton had already occurred.

The point should also be made that no one in Brixton was ever asked whether they wanted their home to be taken over by immigration. It was done to them.

They were never asked.

But to show people what Brixton was before....people like Wisbech inflicted their political vision onto the area (yeah I wonder how the 'jam tomorrow' argument would have worked out there) here are images of Brixton before this happened and obviously the Brixton of that time was heavily white working class and considered poor.

This is Brixton Road in 1938.



Another one showing a busy Brixton Road high street in the 30s before mass immigration. I challenge anyone to compare it to that same street since mass immigration. Now in the same area the shops have steel shutters and very few of the ancestors of those Brixton Londoners remain.
Not true for Cornwall, where this guy chose to move to.
Oh and given his attack on the poor, I'll repeat the fact that Brixton was a working class area.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I don't remember any words she had with me on that.

She sent me no DMs and I don't remember her addressing me on the topic.

Are you stating that none of your rental properties have ever had a gas supply?

She openly posted in the forum that the silly things being said about me weren’t true. She knew my real identity and knew my suggested identity was incorrect.

None of my rental properties have, or have ever had, a gas supply. They are all in the same street which has no gas supply in the road. Clear enough?

 

[Stirlingsays]

She openly posted in the forum that the silly things being said about me weren’t true. She knew my real identity and knew my suggested identity was incorrect.

None of my rental properties have, or have ever had, a gas supply. They are all in the same street which has no gas supply in the road. Clear enough?

If that is indeed true, then fair enough.

If it is indeed true then I take it back purely upon an honourable basis.

You can regard any future reference I might make to gas maintenance and you as jokes.....because I do actually find the idea amusing. But if it isn't true: it isn't true.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

As we have Wisbech here say that Brixton was a dump before mass immigration to the area I feel some corrections to his insults to that era in that area are required.

Significant post-war immigration changes to Brixton began in the late 1940s/1950s (e.g., with the arrival of the Windrush generation and later waves). So his point doesn't even make much sense as in the 60s significant immigration into Brixton had already occurred.

But to show people what Brixton was before....people like Wisbech inflicted their political vision onto the area (yeah I wonder how the 'jam tomorrow' argument would have worked out there) here are images of Brixton before this happened and area that was heavily white working class.

This is Brixton Road in 1938.

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Another one showing a busy Brixton Road high street in the 30s before mass immigration. I challenge anyone to compare it to that same street since mass immigration. Now in the same area the shops have steel shutters and very few of the ancestors of those Brixton Londoners remain.
Not true for Cornwall, where this guy chose to move to.
Oh and given his attack on the poor, Brixton was a working class area.

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That’s a decent defence by a proud past resident.

That the Windrush arrivals, or at least some of them, ended up in Brixton is a matter of record. They were though only the start. Yes, it was a “working class” area. It contained cheaper housing options than some other areas. Much of it then council owned. It was a natural progression that those needing housing by Councils ended up in Brixton. Nobody “inflicted policies”. There were needs which were met.

The threat I felt driving through Brixton in the early 60s didn’t come from seeing recent arrivals on the streets. In truth I cannot recall being aware of them. No, it was because of its reputation as a rough area. We didn’t stop there. Never entered one of the pubs. I had a car as a teenager and wanted to keep it. I avoided trouble and any place it might be found. Still do.

Anyone can move to Cornwall. Even those living in Wisbech.