Green Party

[Stirlingsays]

This is what doesn't make sense to me. How are they going to implement all of the green taxes whilst being Communist? They'll eat themselves if they get any power. Purge after purge.

Yeah, but you're looking at it in terms of rationality.

These aren't rational people......if you gave them actual responsibility, they couldn't run a bath.

Capital would outflow the country quicker than light......it's pretty bad as it is.

But there are a couple of generations of people (and the imported vote) who think the world runs for them and that by a liberal consensus rights and free stuff are their's as an entitlement.....instead of something that previous generations went through hell to achieve.

They live in la la land.

 

[HKOwen]

The greens should rename as new democrats or similar imo less fringe and more soft left labour.

Labour could be wiped out this week but the important thing is do they listen or are they not for turning.

Greens have a good local candidate in Hannah Spencer, she is already getting abuse from the rattled right.

Clearly driving a petrol car is Epstein territory, she also had the nerve to take a holiday..

You can imagine her winning with a big turnout for Labour as it was, but not now.

😎

The Green candidate is of course a massive hypocrite, her property and landlord status now revealed, flyibg round the world on fuel guzzling holidays etc. OK, no surprise there, most of those in politics are do as I say not do as I do.

Labour not for turning, I thinks unintentionally that is hilarious, the current govt has turned so much they are actually drilling to the centre of the earth.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Surely no one in their right mind is thinking of voting for them? Legalising all drug use, including crack cocaine. Doing business deals with Colombian drug cartels and educating children in how to use drugs. These people need locking up, not voting in

Do you think our current drug policies are working well? How much have we spent on the 'war on drugs' over the last couple of decades, and what progress do we have to show for that investment?

 

[CPFCSaturn]

The Green candidate is of course a massive hypocrite, her property and landlord status now revealed, flyibg round the world on fuel guzzling holidays etc. OK, no surprise there, most of those in politics are do as I say not do as I do.

Labour not for turning, I thinks unintentionally that is hilarious, the current govt has turned so much they are actually drilling to the centre of the earth.

I wasn't aware the Greens planned to ban flying or going on holiday - interesting policy.

 

[Common Sense Club]

The Green candidate is of course a massive hypocrite, her property and landlord status now revealed, flyibg round the world on fuel guzzling holidays etc. OK, no surprise there, most of those in politics are do as I say not do as I do.

Labour not for turning, I thinks unintentionally that is hilarious, the current govt has turned so much they are actually drilling to the centre of the earth.

The Greens need to distance themselves from the previous joint-leaders interview with the BBCs Nick Robinson at the last general election. Robinson quizzed him on the policy that they had been discussing of banning petrol and diesel cars in 2030.
Now, before you think ‘yes’ we know that, Labour have already committed to banning the sale of those vehicles in 2030, the Greens were discussing a ban on the USE of those vehicles from 2030. As Robinson remarked, that’s potentially 18 million vehicles taken off the road with drastic consequences. Apparently it wasn’t a policy, but the mere fact that it was discussed as a serious option proves that this lot are nuts; proof that over indulging in mind altering substances does just that-alters the mind permanently.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

I keep thinking I'm going to wake up and find that the Greens are just a satirical stunt.

 

[HKOwen]

Do you think our current drug policies are working well? How much have we spent on the 'war on drugs' over the last couple of decades, and what progress do we have to show for that investment?

Do you support legalisation of all drugs?

 

[HKOwen]

I wasn't aware the Greens planned to ban flying or going on holiday - interesting policy.

No one has said that, it's pointing out her hypocrisy on environmental issues, like Emma Thompson jetting in to go on an Extinction Rebellion protest.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Do you think our current drug policies are working well? How much have we spent on the 'war on drugs' over the last couple of decades, and what progress do we have to show for that investment?

How could you measure success?

Ho do you know how good or bad things would be without the 'war'?

 

[HKOwen]

The Greens need to distance themselves from the previous joint-leaders interview with the BBCs Nick Robinson at the last general election. Robinson quizzed him on the policy that they had been discussing of banning petrol and diesel cars in 2030.
Now, before you think ‘yes’ we know that, Labour have already committed to banning the sale of those vehicles in 2030, the Greens were discussing a ban on the USE of those vehicles from 2030. As Robinson remarked, that’s potentially 18 million vehicles taken off the road with drastic consequences. Apparently it wasn’t a policy, but the mere fact that it was discussed as a serious option proves that this lot are nuts; proof that over indulging in mind altering substances does just that-alters the mind permanently.

Hard to believe Mad Ed " Two Kitchens " Miliband is not a Green

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Do you support legalisation of all drugs?

I don't know - probably not all, but certainly some.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

No one has said that, it's pointing out her hypocrisy on environmental issues, like Emma Thompson jetting in to go on an Extinction Rebellion protest.

The catching a flight stuff is basically only a talking point on the right - there's no serious argument from sensible environmentalists that catching a few flights a year is problematic or worthy of criticism.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

How could you measure success?

Ho do you know how good or bad things would be without the 'war'?

Like any policy, you'd look at the impact it's had since it's inception - in the case of the war on drugs, you would consider things like;

Has usage come down? Are drugs now less readily available? Do we see less societal issues as a result of drug usage and the associated criminality?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Like any policy, you'd look at the impact it's had since it's inception - in the case of the war on drugs, you would consider things like;

Has usage come down? Are drugs now less readily available? Do we see less societal issues as a result of drug usage and the associated criminality?

Obviously, but there has always been enforcement of drug laws. Drugs have never been legalised in Britain.
I don't think anyone is naive enough to think that any strategy against drug supply would be 100% successful. In fact, nowhere near that. Nevertheless, the consequences of no law enforcement could be far worse than what we have now.
The Greens are simply chucking out ideas that sound cool to the young and gullible.

 

[Common Sense Club]

The catching a flight stuff is basically only a talking point on the right - there's no serious argument from sensible environmentalists that catching a few flights a year is problematic or worthy of criticism.

Only the non-environmentalists will be criticised for taking flights...

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Obviously, but there has always been enforcement of drug laws. Drugs have never been legalised in Britain.
I don't think anyone is naive enough to think that any strategy against drug supply would be 100% successful. In fact, nowhere near that. Nevertheless, the consequences of no law enforcement could be far worse than what we have now.
The Greens are simply chucking out ideas that sound cool to the young and gullible.

Ok but if you drastically increase the funding and focus on that enforcement, you'd expect to be able to point some achievements as a result.

Instead, many drugs are decriminalised in all but name and more readily available than ever.

The Greens are suggesting policies which have a better track record of delivering results - I'd prefer if we determine policies based on outputs.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Only the non-environmentalists will be criticised for taking flights...

I disagree - the only people I ever see talk about someone catching a few flights or going on holiday once a year is in media like the Daily Mail trying to claim some sort of secondary school 'gotcha'.

You'll see criticisms of things like private jet usage on the left, but no one gives a s*** about Barry flying to Turkey for his holiday once a year.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Ok but if you drastically increase the funding and focus on that enforcement, you'd expect to be able to point some achievements as a result.

Instead, many drugs are decriminalised in all but name and more readily available than ever.

The Greens are suggesting policies which have a better track record of delivering results - I'd prefer if we determine policies based on outputs.

If you increased the budget for enforcement you would expect to see results. However, money is not always the answer. Sometimes it is strategy that matters.
The only way to stop drug use would be to destroy every field and factory growing and manufacturing drugs and capturing every drug cartel and dealer in the world. That isn't ever going to happen.

To find out how well the current policy works, one would have to decriminalise all illegal drugs.

What are these drugs that you claim are effectively decriminalised? Plenty of people smoke weed, but it is still an offence to sell it.
Are you sure you want to make class A drugs legal? Sounds like an accident waiting to happen to me.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

If you increased the budget for enforcement you would expect to see results. However, money is not always the answer. Sometimes it is strategy that matters.
The only way to stop drug use would be to destroy every field and factory growing and manufacturing drugs and capturing every drug cartel and dealer in the world. That isn't ever going to happen.

To find out how well the current policy works, one would have to decriminalise all illegal drugs.

What are these drugs that you claim are effectively decriminalised? Plenty of people smoke weed, but it is still an offence to sell it.
Are you sure you want to make class A drugs legal? Sounds like an accident waiting to happen to me.

I haven't talked about 'stopping drug use' - that's obviously not a realistic outcome, but some sort of reduction is - you seem to be suggesting that our current expensive policy, of which you are yet to provide a single achievement, is working perfectly fine - I don't really understand the basis for that claim.

Weed is effectively decriminalised - you could smoke a joint in front of a police officer and nothing would happen - I smell it every single day in London.
You could get hold of a bag of weed in a matter of minutes in every town centre in the country. Same also true of many other 'party' drugs like cocaine and MDMA.

I don't think I agree with making all drugs legal, no.

 

[Common Sense Club]

I disagree - the only people I ever see talk about someone catching a few flights or going on holiday once a year is in media like the Daily Mail trying to claim some sort of secondary school 'gotcha'.

You'll see criticisms of things like private jet usage on the left, but no one gives a s*** about Barry flying to Turkey for his holiday once a year.

I am not sure that you understand the hypocrisy of the situation...Emma Thompson catching a flight from the US to London to support an Extinction Rebellion event smacks of a privileged hypocrisy...you small people can restrict your activities but I can continue to have the freedom. That's what pi55es off the general public. And what if Barry wants to fly to Turkey twice a year, or three times a year...at what point do we stop Barry from his excesses?
Private jets? I agree, far too many freedoms there.