Paul Salvage
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If the only way to get rid of OG is for us to lose, then I hope he stays until the end of the season.
Glasner Out
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It isn't though. He could resign or be sacked. And already should have been. Look at our results for the last fourteen games and see what you think.
Forest Hillbilly
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Glasner won't be got rid until an appropriate replacement is ready to take over. My own thoughts are that a short-term replacement to steady the ship is not the best option.
Perhaps the Board have someone in mind for the long-term, but they aren't available , yet.
Now we are getting more of the squad available, I would like to think Glasner can turn results.
Perhaps the Board have someone in mind for the long-term, but they aren't available , yet.
Now we are getting more of the squad available, I would like to think Glasner can turn results.
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Who cares? I stopped listening a while ago.
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I don't think a manager who's leaving can turn results. Best thing that can be done is a team meeting and a reminder of all the relegation pay cuts. From Parish - not from Glasner. Glasner has undermined any authority he had.
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Good points. But I would think the players are aware of the financial impact on their wages that relegation would have. Not only that, but if they want a transfer, better put on a good performance to put yourself in prime place in the shop window.
Players that get relegated, aren't usually in demand. Andy Johnson being not the only exception.
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I agree with you - I said earlier in the thread, the impact sacking Glasner now has on our next appointment is enormous. I'm not fully convinced the upside of sacking him is worth the risk of f***ing up our next hire.
The bookies still see our relegation as about as likely as Brentford finishing in the top four.
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The managerial situation at Palace exists because Steve Parish has determined that it's the best way forward for now.
It's a bold and unusual call in an industry where sackings are a part of everyday life.
My guess is that he thinks that Glasners European experience is now his most useful asset as that's the only way that we can win a trophy this season. And that we have just about enough about us to avoid relegation.
If we look at the other clubs around us, Forest are a basket case. Would you feel comfortable if Palace had burned through three Head Coaches if Glasner had been sacked in October ? Or Spurs bringing in someone with no Premier League experience ??
Sometimes doing nothing is the best option. And we have to hope Parish has called it right in this instance.
It's a bold and unusual call in an industry where sackings are a part of everyday life.
My guess is that he thinks that Glasners European experience is now his most useful asset as that's the only way that we can win a trophy this season. And that we have just about enough about us to avoid relegation.
If we look at the other clubs around us, Forest are a basket case. Would you feel comfortable if Palace had burned through three Head Coaches if Glasner had been sacked in October ? Or Spurs bringing in someone with no Premier League experience ??
Sometimes doing nothing is the best option. And we have to hope Parish has called it right in this instance.
The media spinning yet again :
T Frank - he’s failed so many times he must come good at some point
S Dyche - the croaky voice gets ppl attention, well sometimes
F Lampard - if the midlands can understand he why can’t south Londoners
A Mountbatten - with a room full of teddy bears, likes pizza, only 1 interview was a car , bus,ship , plane crash & deny everything
Plus he needs an outlet 🤣
T Frank - he’s failed so many times he must come good at some point
S Dyche - the croaky voice gets ppl attention, well sometimes
F Lampard - if the midlands can understand he why can’t south Londoners
A Mountbatten - with a room full of teddy bears, likes pizza, only 1 interview was a car , bus,ship , plane crash & deny everything
Plus he needs an outlet 🤣
Re: It's a bold and unusual call in an industry where sackings are a part of everyday life.
I don't think so, likely it's a money-saving ploy so he doesn't have to pay up the remaining months on Glasner's contract. Very short-sighted in my opinion. A temporary replacement now would be better than the uncertainty of struggling on with someone who has lost interest in Palace.
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I disagree - obviously none of us know for sure, but we can't be talking more than a few million to pay Glasner off at this point, with only around 4 months left on his contract - I can't imagine we would allow such a relatively small figure dictate our decision making at all.
It's chump change to a Premier League club.
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I don't agree.
If Parish had sacked Glasner in October then Palace would have potentially had to pay up his contract which runs until June this year. If paid in full, and I think there would be grounds to negotiate that, it would cost £3m. Now that may be ' dead money ' but in this business it's not big money.
Or, just a theory, Parish has not got overall control because of a possible takeover in the closed season, no facts, just a theory, but Parish is not his normal self IMO, and putting him on gardening leave, if he wanted to do so, his wages to the end of contract is about 900k, not a vast amount to save us from a possible relegation, one thing is for sure, results couldn't get any worse.
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Perhaps the club fear a Curbishley-esque comparison if they sack him, even if the circumstances are totally different.
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Well that is speculation of the purest kind !
In terms of Parish not being his '' normal self '', I don't know him personally. But I did meet him last Wednesday after the Burnley game and it struck me then just how frustrated he was with the result and the performance - in other words he felt exactly how I did.
I wonder if Parish could wind the clock back to last October, would he have considered it for the best for Glasner to remain having effectively handed in his notice ? Results suggest that he may now regret that decision.
I agree that paying Glasners contract up now would not be financially prohibitive, however replacing him and hiring someone new on either a permanent or interim basis comes with no guarantee that results will improve - Exhibit A being Forest.
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Indeed.
Some speculation of my own is that the call to action for Parish is in the balance, with the obvious downside of sacking our 'most successful manager (on paper)' and potential for him to deliver as he did last season weighed up against the fact we have one win and looked awful without much sign of that changing in however long now.
I suppose the most optimistic view is that injuries, more games, plus a lack of investment (until Jan) has sincerely hampered OG in what he can achieve. The situation has now improved however and the hope is we'll be as good the second half of this season as we were last year, or at least better than we have been for months. A (very) rough period but ending in success with potentially another trophy, a strong placed PL finish, SP/the Board spared any harsh criticism and things potentially getting worse by sacking OG.
The most pessimistic view is that OG is off, doesn't care and has been found out as a 1D manager. He doesn't have any solutions, the players morale is through the floor and this run will continue, potentially threatening relegation. This will leave the fans seething and overall a toxic and extremely volatile atmosphere around the club.
My guess is that the finger is on the trigger but a decision hasn't been made to pull it... yet.
Not sure that's true - look at Southampton and the money they've bought in after 2 terrible prem relegations.
- 2023/24 (Post-Relegation): Over £150 million+ in total sales. Key sales: Roméo Lavia (€62.1m, Chelsea), Tino Livramento (€37.2m, Newcastle), James Ward-Prowse (€34.8m, West Ham), Nathan Tella (€23.3m, Leverkusen).
Hopefully, it will be irrelevant for us, but if the worst was to happen Warton would still command top dollar and other established prem players like Hendo, Lacriox, Munoz, JP, Sarr etc will be of interest.
For a team that only managed 12 points last season and did those sales, they are on a good run and just a couple of points off the play-offs. If they don't get up, it might be worthwhile looking at some of their players as parachute payments drop and their manager - a 32 year old German
The hysteria from some on here is imo a bit embarrassing. Yes we are on a bad run but there have been reasons for that that are largely resolved. Having no choice but to keep starting JPM was a big one and a reason why we failed to win so many games. Dont take my word for it look at the stats. In nearly all the games mentioned we created more than enough chances to win the game had we had a striker on the pitch that doesn't need 5 chances to score 1 goal. Thats a stat that has nothing to do with Glasner when there is no other recognized striker available. No one is saying JSL is a saviour but he can finish if you put chances in front of him. Going forward I'd expect him to grab 10 goals plus before the end of the season.
Then you look at other positions we have struggled with up until recently. Guessand looked good against Brighton. Not so much against Burnley but I like him. He offers something different. And we are yet to see the best of Brennan Johnson. A quality player I feel sure will come alive soon.
Defensively we are weaker than we were for obvious reasons but only hard work on the training ground can improve that. Munoz has come back from his injury less effective but this could just be managing his injury/building fitness. In short I think we have grounds to be optimistic. I believe not just Glasner but the players too see a very real chance to win the Conference League. That shared goal keeps everyone pulling in the same direction.
Looking at league position I really honestly dont see what all the fuss is about. There are four teams between us and the bottom 3. That means five teams (including West Ham in 3rd bottom position) that have to do better than us for there even to be a chance of us going down. People say Ooh but look at our form. Has anyone looked at the other club's form? Forrest? Same form as us, Spurs? Doing worse than we are, Brighton? Way worse than us. Even Fulham who are 2 points better off than us are on a worse run that us having lost 4 of their last 5.
I said the other day I no longer believe we'll win the Conference League. The reason for that is because Glasner cannot overcome a low block defence and nearly everyone we face in this competition seems to play the same way. I also said I believed we will stay up comfortably and we'll probably finish around the same position we are now. My feeling hasn't changed. All this Glasner out rhetoric is counter productive. Whatever any of us want Parish has decided he sees out his contract. He's leaving at the end of the season anyway so I dont see why getting behind the team and being patient to see what happens in the summer instead of whining that you want something to happen that is clearly not going to.