Glasner Out

I'm so tired of football 'managers' who have no responsibility, interest, or knowledge of the actual management of a football club, and who don't care about it's long term well being, running their fecking mouths off about 'ambition' and 'backing' to the press.

To be clear, as far as can be understood with confidence, palace appear to be at or near the FFP limit. Qualifying for the lesser European competitions is a huge strain for smaller clubs, because the income from it doesn't come close to covering the costs of building a squad that can compete in it whilst maintaining league form. It's basic sums.

What these managers want is clubs to spend more. More than they've spent already. More than the next team. More than they've got. The consequences are as irrelevant to them as the reasons why it can't be done. They are like children. Spoiled ones.

Mostly this is done to deflect after poor performances, but often it's also part of an exit strategy. Create a narrative where you are underappreciated by faceless bean counters. That always plays well with the clueless.

If you really go for it, like Glasner just has, you might even make your continued employment so lacking in viability that you get to walk away under cover of a 'fallout' caused, according to your narrative, by being let down. A dead giveaway that this shitty ploy is being used is that you throw everyone above you under the bus publicly, then stress that you'll never walk away as you care too much. Then it's all on the chairman when you part ways, even though you've gone out of your way to cause it.

The irony is that the whole purpose of the plan is for you to abandon the team you claim to be defending, just in case your personal stock should suffer from the challenging phase they are about to go through without you.

I know it's a dirty industry with no loyalty or patience, but the utter selfishness and self importance of it is staggering. I'm sure Parish will now be weighing up options ranging from sacking Glasner, including whether this is gross misconduct and so not triggering compensation, to forcefully impressing upon Glasner that he should keep his mouth shut and do the job he is paid very well to do.
 
ASCPFC said:
His interview was pretty revealing.
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Sounded to me like the October talks was just a story. Based on today’s interview I think he did threaten to walk if MG was sold in the summer window.
Now it’s happening and the day before a game he’s gone into the conference and announced he won’t be signing a new contract. Only palace could be on the verge of the biggest and best run at success I’ve seen in my lifetime and make such a pigs ear of it. Amateur Mickey Mouse stuff from top to bottom.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
Did we not just spend £35million on Johnson? Hardly abandoning the team.

Guehi, Olise and Eze are the ones who abandoned the team, as Glasner will be very soon. If players stayed with a project rather than chasing the money eleswhere, then we might progress.

Glasner is just trying to deflect from recent poor performances and or maybe trying to get sacked.
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Agreed. We also got Uche in, who stayed on the bench, despite us losing.

WTAF is going on? This unravelled so fast. First he says the team don't need a manager to beat a non-league team - clearly this attitude was relayed to our lacklustre players - and then he says they've been abandoned when we broke the transfer record and got in several players, while he rarely used the squad?! Unbelievable...
 
The person who effectively quit in October is the one who is doing the 'abandoning'

And he said Guehi would go in January if Palace received a reasonable offer so it can't be a surprise when he did

And there are 20 million reasons for Palace why he would not be played today and 200,000 reasons per week for Guehi to not want to risk playing today - it's hardly rocket science to have to explain it to professional footballers

Inspired by Amorin he wants out right now and no doubt that petulant and pathetic interview will get him exactly what he intended
 
TheBigToePunt said:
I'm so tired of football 'managers' who have no responsibility, interest, or knowledge of the actual management of a football club, and who don't care about it's long term well being, running their fecking mouths off about 'ambition' and 'backing' to the press.

To be clear, as far as can be understood with confidence, palace appear to be at or near the FFP limit. Qualifying for the lesser European competitions is a huge strain for smaller clubs, because the income from it doesn't come close to covering the costs of building a squad that can compete in it whilst maintaining league form. It's basic sums.

What these managers want is clubs to spend more. More than they've spent already. More than the next team. More than they've got. The consequences are as irrelevant to them as the reasons why it can't be done. They are like children. Spoiled ones.

Mostly this is done to deflect after poor performances, but often it's also part of an exit strategy. Create a narrative where you are underappreciated by faceless bean counters. That always plays well with the clueless.

If you really go for it, like Glasner just has, you might even make your continued employment so lacking in viability that you get to walk away under cover of a 'fallout' caused, according to your narrative, by being let down. A dead giveaway that this shitty ploy is being used is that you throw everyone above you under the bus publicly, then stress that you'll never walk away as you care too much. Then it's all on the chairman when you part ways, even though you've gone out of your way to cause it.

The irony is that the whole purpose of the plan is for you to abandon the team you claim to be defending, just in case your personal stock should suffer from the challenging phase they are about to go through without you.

I know it's a dirty industry with no loyalty or patience, but the utter selfishness and self importance of it is staggering. I'm sure Parish will now be weighing up options ranging from sacking Glasner, including whether this is gross misconduct and so not triggering compensation, to forcefully impressing upon Glasner that he should keep his mouth shut and do the job he is paid very well to do.
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Can anyone who is saying the board should have backed the manager argue against this with any confidence? How do we know spending more was an option we had?

This all makes sense to me.
 
Hendo’s Magic Hat said:
Sounded to me like the October talks was just a story. Based on today’s interview I think he did threaten to walk if MG was sold in the summer window.
Now it’s happening and the day before a game he’s gone into the conference and announced he won’t be signing a new contract. Only palace could be on the verge of the biggest and best run at success I’ve seen in my lifetime and make such a pigs ear of it. Amateur Mickey Mouse stuff from top to bottom.
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He's certainly lending weight to that with the timing of all this.
 
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