DANGERCLOSE
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What's next the Falklands?
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Gibraltar
- Topic starter DANGERCLOSE
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What's next the Falklands?
Before I get too excited this is a matter for the people of Gibraltar. If they are fine with this arrangement then so be it.
If they are not and have been sidelined by the EU, Spain and the UK then that is a shameful betrayal.
Tend to agree, they need thousands of people from Spain everyday for the pace to function
The future needs to be decided by the people affected.
Who knows what TTK would do after the Chagos scandal
Willo
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Yet another Labour sell-out of our country.
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Forest Hillbilly
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Wales
White flags are flying over all the UK territories. Even the mainland.
ASCPFC
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Ireland
I hardly dare say this but there has been discussions over the Falklands for a while now. Not a joke.
Dogburger
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As I understand it there will be two passport controls when you fly into Gibraltar which then gives you access to travel into Spain and beyond
Details haven't been released yet but surely that takes Gibraltar into the customs union ?
The only point of ever going there was vat free shopping , have the people agreed to start paying VAT ?
Details haven't been released yet but surely that takes Gibraltar into the customs union ?
The only point of ever going there was vat free shopping , have the people agreed to start paying VAT ?
This as far as i've seen as about speeding up custom points ,nothing to do with sovereignty. Perhaps providing a little proof would help.
This is simply about ease of travel,to gain power again you should join Reform.
steeleye20
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England
Sovereignty can only be decided by the Gibraltarians themselves, the last referendum was in 2002.
It may be quite different now.
It is self-governing, apart from foreign policy and defence.
This looks to have resolved brexit difficulties and opened up borders and eased movement of goods and services so I would have thought good for the people that live there.
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It may be quite different now.
It is self-governing, apart from foreign policy and defence.
This looks to have resolved brexit difficulties and opened up borders and eased movement of goods and services so I would have thought good for the people that live there.
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Willo
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England
A key 'sticking point' for the last government was to NOT allow Spanish or EU border guards to check our passports on sovereign British soil.
James Cleverly informed the Spanish that neither Parliament nor voters would let that wash.
Labour just caved in.
PalazioVecchio
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i think it rather stretches the definition of 'our country' somewhat. A colonial outpost maybe ? an overseas possession or a Crown dependency possibly ? Can you name any great Gibraltar families akin to those from medieval Kent, Sussex and Northampton ?
there are probably more Brits living in Benidorm, Calais, or Tuscany.
Apart from being a Naval Base on a rock, with a ton of bars, restaurants and presumably hooeers , what else is Gibraltar ?
I would be reluctant to side with the Spanish and their grievances ( colonial imperial hooeers themselves...owning Ceuta ) ...... but its hard to make much sense of British Gibraltar these days.
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Willo
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The UK has had sovereignty over Gibraltar since 1713.
It is a BRITISH Overseas Territory.
Don't forget Lanzarote 😎
PalazioVecchio
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so its full of 99% white Brits called Nigel & Sharon ? 100% English speaking & Church of England ? Not exactly the same as many towns in England then ?
Maybe the Spanish should cordon off a little piece of England for themselves ? everybody else seems to already have ? even the Irish in Kilburn or the Koreans in Tolworth, SW London ? multiculturalism flies in the face of people/place connections. The brits living out in Dubai & Hong Kong are surely still brits.
And as for the lads burning Poppies near remembrance Sunday ? Not exactly as pro British as the average Man Utd fan in Delhi.
Isnt it ironic when Politicians discuss 'defending' Gibraltar or Ukraine. All the while.....
Gibraltar may well be British. But for all the reasons above, it is an anachronism.
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Willo
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Back in the mists of time when my wife and I used to frequent 'Puerto Del Carmen' we did hear of many Britons living on the island.
In those days, the resort was awash with British 'Timeshare' touts and they were a darned nuisance. Many felt the sharp end of my tongue as I hurled buckets of verbal paraffin over them.
Eagleman13
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Pfft, 'Gib' is a youngster compared to my home, Bermuda, since 1618 we have been British, apart from 1942-1945 when some other colonials wanted to 'borrow' the islands for summat that was happening.
PalazioVecchio
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sorry Eagles, i have a Royal Flush here......Ireland 1170, Battle of Baginbun.....the Brits using the sneaky tactic of charging a herd of cattle into the fray. I have always said British women had an edge to them. Its probably cos our first introduction to them was via Alice of Abergavenney.
Gibraltar....... do i care ?
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Eagleman13
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Nice try PV, unfortunately in 1170 there was no one 'British' the Isles that made up the land mass that eventually became the 'British Isles' was a mish mash of areas ruled by different Kings & by that date the Norman's had arrived.sorry Eagles, i have a Royal Flush here......Ireland 1170, Battle of Baginbun.....the Brits using the sneaky tactic of charging a herd of cattle into the fray. I have always said British women had an edge to them. Its probably cos our first introduction to them was via Alice of Abergavenney.
Gibraltar....... do i care ?
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Baginbun, history, Irish history, Norman invasion of Ireland, Raymond le Gros, medieval warfare, medieval ireland, norman ireland
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The Anglo-Norman invasion of Ireland had its share of bloody moments, but perhaps none so macabre as the Battle of Baginbun Head and the actions of Alice of Abergavenny. Photo by Alan Levine / Flickr Much of what we know about the events of the Anglo-Norman invasion comes from two sources -...