Forest V Leeds

Runningman said:
Are you suggesting we switch managers ?
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No, of course not, Glasner is a crap manager and will always be a crap manager, he was very lucky to inherit a team of real quality, and the success we had in the cups was must despite Glasner not becuase of him, it we had had a top manager at that time we would be in the Champions league by now and kept a lot of our better players, Sage needs time to understand that his system is crap, if he doesn't, he wont last until Christmas, then a manager will be bought in that plays a decent set up, like PSG, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Arsenal and even Brentford.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
No, of course not, Glasner is a crap manager and will always be a crap manager, he was very lucky to inherit a team of real quality, and the success we had in the cups was must despite Glasner not becuase of him, it we had had a top manager at that time we would be in the Champions league by now and kept a lot of our better players, Sage needs time to understand that his system is crap, if he doesn't, he wont last until Christmas, then a manager will be bought in that plays a decent set up, like PSG, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Arsenal and even Brentford.
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With the greatest of respect Glasner's teams have won the 'Europa League', the 'Conference League' and the 'FA Cup'.
 
Willo said:
With the greatest of respect Glasner's teams have won the 'Europa League', the 'Conference League' and the 'FA Cup'.
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No, the players have done that, in spite of a crap manager.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
No, the players have done that, in spite of a crap manager.
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Of course the players played their part they always do !
However, in my humble estimation, any manager who guides his teams to such successes is not deserving of such derogatory comments.
I appreciate that no manager is above criticism and of course in their careers they often face shot and shell from their support base.
 
Glasner always starts badly at new clubs. My concern is that it seems around the seventh game is when his teams kick into gear...guess who Forest's seventh fixture of the season is against? Yep, you just know what'll happen: no win in his first six games, and then they beat us.
 
Willo said:
Of course the players played their part they always do !
However, in my humble estimation, any manager who guides his teams to such successes is not deserving of such derogatory comments.
I appreciate that no manager is above criticism and of course in their careers they often face shot and shell from their support base.
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To play every second of every match, and watching the rubbish he saw in front of him suggests he really isn't a manager at all, more like a communist with the book of marx's in front of him, or a minister of the cloth with his bible open, do not deviate from the ideology.
 
mileend said:
Has he lost it in the post match press conference complaining about players leaving, recruitment, that it's not possible to get results with late signings to play his system for several months and that he has been abandoned by the club?

Reported £12m per year for 2 years ... ?
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Nottingham Forest boss Oliver Glasner told Sky Sports

"This is a little bit the assessment after six weeks here, that maybe - and not just in the team, it's maybe in the club - that there's a little bit of ignoring the reality.

"Right now, we are far away from where we want to be, and what I'm really convinced in that where we will be.

"The fact is that this team had a relegation battle for nine months. Very turbulent season and it ended with a huge effort to stay in the league, and this is our starting point.

"It's really very important not to blame anybody because sometimes I tell them facts and they say, 'Oh, Glasner is complaining'.

"No, no, no. But then maybe your best midfielder [Elliot Anderson] leaves the club and now we expect we compete for European places because Oliver Glasner is in. Sorry, this is what I can't deliver within six weeks.

"I'm no magician, no messiah, just hard work. That is what we have to do.

"It doesn't make sense talking about seventh two years ago. It's hard, it's tough, but if you ignore the reality then you live in dreamland and this is never the best thing to do."
 
est1905 said:
I genuinely couldn't care less about Glasner. I would be very surprised if he were to be a big success at Forest. I'd imagine he'll do ok for a year or two then move on to something bigger which is what he wanted all along.
But that said, Forest will never be rivals of ours. I'm grateful to Glasner for what he achieved while at Palace. Now? I really dont care what direction his career takes
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If he is a flop at Forest that "something bigger" may not be an option.
 
MrRobbo said:
Nottingham Forest boss Oliver Glasner told Sky Sports

"This is a little bit the assessment after six weeks here, that maybe - and not just in the team, it's maybe in the club - that there's a little bit of ignoring the reality.

"Right now, we are far away from where we want to be, and what I'm really convinced in that where we will be.

"The fact is that this team had a relegation battle for nine months. Very turbulent season and it ended with a huge effort to stay in the league, and this is our starting point.

"It's really very important not to blame anybody because sometimes I tell them facts and they say, 'Oh, Glasner is complaining'.

"No, no, no. But then maybe your best midfielder [Elliot Anderson] leaves the club and now we expect we compete for European places because Oliver Glasner is in. Sorry, this is what I can't deliver within six weeks.

"I'm no magician, no messiah, just hard work. That is what we have to do.

"It doesn't make sense talking about seventh two years ago. It's hard, it's tough, but if you ignore the reality then you live in dreamland and this is never the best thing to do."
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Seems a realistic assessment.
 
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