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Wisbech Eagle said:
More nonsense. You don’t speak for “most” people. You speak only for yourself, even if you are aligned with others. Others whose views are also thought to be degenerate. It’s all just opinion. You are as entitled to yours as I am to mine.
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That you are entitled to an opinion is not in dispute and is a moot point on a website that has allowed you to air it.....even if we live in a country that prosecutes people for opinions.

Wisbech Eagle said:
You certainly do, but once again you don’t speak for anyone else! Those who object to a Court verdict can either be upset because they know it was wrong, which is what I experienced, or upset because their lies didn’t work. Only one of us knows the truth of my experience.

Where you currently live, especially in today’s increasingly mobile world, doesn’t relate to your cultural identity. It requires you to respect the one you have chosen to live in. That you choose to live in Wisbech doesn’t make you any more Wisbechian than it did me when I lived there. We are both Londoner’s. I now live in Cornwall, respect, participate in and enjoy the local culture but was born a Londoner. I identify as English but, having lived in many places, also regard myself as a citizen of the world and able to adapt.

Small minded, inward looking regressives tend to think that way.
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The 'citizen of the world' is a made up identity and just exploits both the cultural and regional identities of wherever those individuals reside. If you choose to make your coin in a place then you should respect it, otherwise it's valid that others can criticise you for being parasitic and ungrateful as well as the obvious charge of a fifth columnist.

In my view, after economic welfare collapse, the future power doesn't belong to this establishment. It will be either the Green types or Restore types taking over. We will see how you and my views stand once that happens.

'Citizens of the world'.....to be honest I don't know how the Greens would view them.....but I do with Restore.

If it's Restore and you still have reasonable health, if I were you, I'd bugger off at that point.
 
Living In Hope said:
I have to say that this thread has become the most laughable, ludicrous conspiracy theorist page I have ever had the misfortune of reading.
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Let me guess, 10 years ago you would have laughed at the idea of a paedophile island attended by Hollywood stars, US presidents and members of the Royal Family?

Do you ever feel guilty? That the naive complicity you represent allowed this to happen, allowed victims and whistle-blowers to be ignored or even ridiculed?
Or do you not let that trouble you?
 
McAhuna said:
Let me guess, 10 years ago you would have laughed at the idea of a paedophile island attended by Hollywood stars, US presidents and members of the Royal Family?

Do you ever feel guilty? That the naive complicity you represent allowed this to happen, allowed victims and whistle-blowers to be ignored or even ridiculed?
Or do you not let that trouble you?
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No, what troubles me is that social media allows ludicrous conspiracy theories to find traction amongst marginal people.
 
Living In Hope said:
I have to say that this thread has become the most laughable, ludicrous conspiracy theorist page I have ever had the misfortune of reading.
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Ok, that's an opinion.

But do you have an actual argument?

For example, state for us what the 'conspiracy theories' have been repeated on here that are ludicrous and deserve no investigation.

State what you mean by 'marginal people'.
 
Living In Hope said:
No, what troubles me is that social media allows ludicrous conspiracy theories to find traction amongst marginal people.
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Do you keep up with the news via the BBC World Service, which you listen to on a wireless from your favourite rocking chair?

I mean, you do realise that Epstein's Island is real, right?
Arrests have been made. Or did it pass you by?

You're about 10 years too late for the aloof Mr Sensible act. Everyone else has now caught up and woken up.
 
Stirlingsays said:
That you are entitled to an opinion is not in dispute and is a moot point on a website that has allowed you to air it.....even if we live in a country that prosecutes people for opinions.
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This is both a disturbing and revealing remark. Why on earth would this site not air my opinions? They air yours and yours are much more controversial than mine.

Nobody in our country is prosecuted for holding an opinion. People are prosecuted for actions, either their own or for inciting others to action. Expressing a view that is defined as hate speech is an action.
Stirlingsays said:
The 'citizen of the world' is a made up identity and just exploits both the cultural and regional identities of wherever those individuals reside. If you choose to make your coin in a place then you should respect it, otherwise it's valid that others can criticise you for being parasitic and ungrateful as well as the obvious charge of a fifth columnist.
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You can regard my opinion in whichever way you wish. It’s how I feel as a consequence of my experiences. Mine, not yours. I have always shown respect and believe everyone should, here as much as anywhere else.
Stirlingsays said:
In my view, after economic welfare collapse, the future power doesn't belong to this establishment. It will be either the Green types or Restore types taking over. We will see how you and my views stand once that happens.
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I trust it’s neither. Both would be a disaster. Both are useful as pressure groups demonstrating concerns shared by groups of citizens but not as governments. They aren’t equipped.
Stirlingsays said:
'Citizens of the world'.....to be honest I don't know how the Greens would view them.....but I do with Restore.

If it's Restore and you still have reasonable health, if I were you, I'd bugger off at that point.
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It won’t be, so I will rest easy for however much longer I have.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
This is both a disturbing and revealing remark. Why on earth would this site not air my opinions? They air yours and yours are much more controversial than mine.
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Because your lefty and liberal opinions are allowed here, yet right wing opinions and posters regularly banned on other sites such as the bbs.

Seriously, are you losing your marbles, this point has been made many times.

Wisbech Eagle said:
Nobody in our country is prosecuted for holding an opinion. People are prosecuted for actions, either their own or for inciting others to action. Expressing a view that is defined as hate speech is an action.
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That is rubbish.

This is exactly the same argument that Stalin used and is used all over the world to suppress anti establishment opinions.

Wisbech Eagle said:
You can regard my opinion in whichever way you wish. It’s how I feel as a consequence of my experiences. Mine, not yours. I have always shown respect and believe everyone should, here as much as anywhere else.
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I can only lament what happened to a good British brain.
As I do with a good number of our modern middle class.

Wisbech Eagle said:
I trust it’s neither. Both would be a disaster. Both are useful as pressure groups demonstrating concerns shared by groups of citizens but not as governments. They aren’t equipped.
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It is what it is.
The future is dictated by economic and social forces beyond our Ken.
We merely comment on the ships sailing by.

Wisbech Eagle said:
It won’t be, so I will rest easy for however much longer I have.
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Well, aside from political differences, no ill will is desired on your health. Let's all hope you win that battle.
 
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