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Anti white propaganda.
As if white people were the problem here.
As if white people were the problem here.
This now all seems to be a case of ‘when’ rather than ‘if’ this brings Starmer down. The mood music from Labour MP’s seems to be beyond despair because they know this s*** is going to taint them all, no matter what.
Firstly, McSweeney is a dead-man walking. No way can he still be in position by this time next week. The question is will his sacrifice be enough to save Starmer? I guess if you are a Labour supporter then you might argue there is a logic to keeping him in post until after the May local elections and then ditching him after that but beyond that? Tarnished now beyond redemption.
Firstly, McSweeney is a dead-man walking. No way can he still be in position by this time next week. The question is will his sacrifice be enough to save Starmer? I guess if you are a Labour supporter then you might argue there is a logic to keeping him in post until after the May local elections and then ditching him after that but beyond that? Tarnished now beyond redemption.
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It's like the sex pest ads, white people do it, black people save them
What strikes me about the mindset behind these kinds of attempts to 'school' people is just how badly thought out they are with literally zero attempt to apply game theory to them in terms of what comes next? A classic example is this current 'Amelia' hype. If anybody is not aware, the powers that be decided to put out some kind of ludicrous computer game to try and steer young white boys away from extremists and using some cartoon character called Amelia to act as the temptress. But it backfired MASSIVELY. Not going to tie up bandwidth on here because its off topic, but its taken on a life of its own.
In many ways, those who oppose us on the Far-Right are clearly not very smart people. Perhaps they have been top-dogs for so long they have become complacent? Who knows. Be interesting to see the reaction when that add gets screened in the US.
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Interesting how the media is playing out the Mandelson story. Some are suggesting that he has betrayed the Labour party with several Labour politicians doing the rounds to claim that they were personally betrayed by Mandy's lies.
The more cynical pointing out that Mandy's flaws were well known back in the nineties as he was a creature of the Blair / Brown / Campbell troika. So quite why the likes of West Streeting wanted to cosy up to him post that era and now wails he has been betrayed says more about him than Mandelson.
Gordon Brown now complaining is a bit rich as he ennobled the creep so I have no sympathy for him.
Labour has not been betrayed, Mandelson like Johnson and Archer is toxic and anyone having dealings with him is an idiot.
Starmer's Labour party enemies now smell blood and I think he will go. He simply can't explain why after all he knew he decided to appoint him Ambassador.
The more cynical pointing out that Mandy's flaws were well known back in the nineties as he was a creature of the Blair / Brown / Campbell troika. So quite why the likes of West Streeting wanted to cosy up to him post that era and now wails he has been betrayed says more about him than Mandelson.
Gordon Brown now complaining is a bit rich as he ennobled the creep so I have no sympathy for him.
Labour has not been betrayed, Mandelson like Johnson and Archer is toxic and anyone having dealings with him is an idiot.
Starmer's Labour party enemies now smell blood and I think he will go. He simply can't explain why after all he knew he decided to appoint him Ambassador.
Hague was the Chief Investigator into child abuse claims in North Wales in the 80s.
His main achievement was to prematurely shut the inquiry down with no further questions.
His name is now coming out in the Epstein papers too
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Unfortunate timing for them, what with the big two traditional parties were doing so well in the polls.
I think this is a seismic shift. Looking at it in through the traditional political hack lens no longer cuts it.
I think this is the final nail in the coffin of Labour from which they never recover.
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Blimey.
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Replacement migration and 'you will own nothing'.
I think the whole 'New' Labour schtick is done and dusted now given that Mandelson was piviotal in bringing it about and is now, quite literally, exposed as a traitor.
Looking down the line on this, what it does is probably give Angela Rayner another shot at the top spot as Wes Streeting will just have to run for cover now, given how he is a protege of Mandelson. There is talk of Lammy perhaps stepping in to take over (LOL) if Starmer steps down but I still suspect that Labour will want Starmer to be in place for the May local elections to take the heat from the fall out and then I suspect it is an open field for Rayner. Not sure who else there is. Yes, she is tainted by corruption but just the 'normal', run-of-the-mill kind. Not the full on, and potentially worse to come (Lets not forget the positions Mandleson held in the EU in a period which the emails have yet to emerge for) acts of full on betrayal that Mandleson engaged in.
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Tony Benn diary entry on Peter Mandelson (1987):
“Monday 16th February 1987. Today we had a meeting of the NEC and the Shadow Cabinet, the first since Neil Kinnock became leader. Kinnock introduced the meeting and spoke for about twenty minutes. We went on to Peter Mandelson who said a few words. I find Mandelson a threatening figure for the future of the Party.”
“Monday 16th February 1987. Today we had a meeting of the NEC and the Shadow Cabinet, the first since Neil Kinnock became leader. Kinnock introduced the meeting and spoke for about twenty minutes. We went on to Peter Mandelson who said a few words. I find Mandelson a threatening figure for the future of the Party.”
One doesn't have to buy into all his politics, but Benn was one of the last of the good guys.
He'd probably be smeared as a right-wing extremist nowadays.
Mid-wits rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.
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I wouldn't go that far.
Like Foot, Benn was an honest guy who thought his politics was best for the country.
I completely disagreed with about 90 percent of what he believed.
But he was honest.....which isn't typical in modern politics on the left anymore.
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correct. The same as the timing of the sacking of a lame-duck football manager. You wait until all the calamities are over and only appoint a newcomer when the ship will be sailing on calmer seas. Starmer is already gone and everybody knows it.
Conundrum of the times....
Is there something about western politicians, business leaders and celebs that makes them more pre-disposed to paedophilia and extreme perversions?
Or do they achieve their positions of power because of their predilections for paedophilia and extreme perversions?
Is there something about western politicians, business leaders and celebs that makes them more pre-disposed to paedophilia and extreme perversions?
Or do they achieve their positions of power because of their predilections for paedophilia and extreme perversions?
Nah. f*** Benn. Still a no good commie.