Plaistow Eagle
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Bet your loving all this doom and gloom Willo.
Crystal Palace vs. Liverpool match thread
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Unfortunately we just do not have the quality in depth for the EPL, this coupled with internal problems and injuries to key players, some who want away makes life almost impossible for any Manager coming in. Sorry you can try and shuffle the pack but that will not make poor quality players any better!
Was you watching the game liverpool organisation at what part . Sir you was looking at it with gloomy eyes . We should have won that game even the stats say that . Apart from scoring ok that is the stat that counts . We was the more productive. So come on give credit were credits due . I won money on the game but feel like I shouldn't ❤️💪👍🏻
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I've been thinking recently of the likelihood of this happening and I concluded (without any scientific evidence) that Parish will find a way to step away in the next couple of seasons. He's been here since 2010 and made a pretty good fist of it, but he probaby knows he's taken it as far as it can go in its current configuration. The new stand? Who knows? Who knows what the club will look like when he passes the baton over?
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Various posters on here said Sarr probably benefits from having a French speaking manager. I reckon the opposite. 2 Frenchmen falling out is never pretty. Look what happened to him at Marseille.
Really well played today. We had the better chances and looked better than Liverpool. The difference is they had Isak and Wirtz finishing chances, while we had Strand Larsen and Kamada. Unfortunately, they're worlds apart.
Mingueza was fantastic today. Cemented his spot.
Timber was incredible. Starts every game.
Pino was his usual menacing self. Has come on so well.
Thought Disasi was largely pretty good too.
We really do just need Mateta and Sarr to come back firing and we'll climb the table.
I for one hope Sage is given the Coventry and Hull games to get results - because he will.
Mingueza was fantastic today. Cemented his spot.
Timber was incredible. Starts every game.
Pino was his usual menacing self. Has come on so well.
Thought Disasi was largely pretty good too.
We really do just need Mateta and Sarr to come back firing and we'll climb the table.
I for one hope Sage is given the Coventry and Hull games to get results - because he will.
elgin eeagle
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Agree with most of this but thought Pino was poor compared to of late. Played too many passes blind and lost possession, and final ball did the same on quite a few occasions. He is one of the highlights of this defensive nightmare season though.
Again we fought to the end and you can see the players like Sage and want to fight for him. I want to give him until Christmas. If we had a proper defence instead of these clowns at the back we would be doing ok i reckon. Hopefully that is apparent to everyone as time goes by.
Yeah, that's all fair. I just think Pino makes stuff happen. It doesn't always come off...but at least he's proactive and causes problems.
I was going to say I'd like to give him the Coventry and Hull games. 4 points minimum from them, or I'm afraid he has to go. Christmas we might be too far adrift.
But I think largely we're saying the same thing. Nice to know there are others willing to take into consideration what he's dealing with and give him time.
silvertop
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I reckon he'll be in position by close of business tomorrow
elgin eeagle
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I think as a fanbase we are all massively disappointed that we havent been able to push on after our European triumph. Some of us will blame Hobbs, others Parish, some the HF, some the kit, some the god awful defending, and others even Sage. Building a successful side requires a lot of components to come together and a good bit of luck as well. Something in very short supply for our Frenchman it seems.
Personally ive watched about 20 championship seasons so am quite prepared for another one. Am getting my photo with the 3 trophies soon so if this dog s*** season is the price then c'est la vie. See what i did there.
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At times like this, we may well need to call upon a Dyche.
We may see a leak of bags of gravel included in the Selhurst Park catering delivery order soon.
cannoneagle
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I thought it was going to be Dyche but apparently there is a big rumour about Frank, dont know where from but 3 people have now told me they have heard it
So read most responses & vast array of insights
I noted we should have been 2 up in first half but Allison on point
We did very well spreading of the ball
Across pitch & ran at them , was good to see the positive approach
Yet as we know don’t take your chances the opposition will score
FACT is it’s not the coach it’s the need for experienced players
I noted we should have been 2 up in first half but Allison on point
We did very well spreading of the ball
Across pitch & ran at them , was good to see the positive approach
Yet as we know don’t take your chances the opposition will score
FACT is it’s not the coach it’s the need for experienced players
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Crystal Palace: Pierre Sage in serious danger of sack with Thomas Frank among contenders
Crystal Palace manager Pierre Sage is in serious danger of losing his job, with Thomas Frank among the contenders to replace him.
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Dyche is s***. He relies on unit players and thumping it into the box. That isn't going to cut it.
Palacesince64
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I thought Strand Larsen had his best game today in terms of hold up play and laying the ball off. Perhaps not as dominant as Mateta but he’s did ok. Unfortunately he’s not a natural finisher like Sarr. Kamada is class but Alisson was having a great game.
I agree with you re Mingueza. Timber got stuck in but is a bit reckless. I’m not against giving Sage those 2 games to see if we can get a couple of decent results especially if he keeps the same back three or switches to 4 at the back (though that is unlikely). However I suspect his time is up if Frank agrees to take the job.
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Sage is not a buffoon, nor crap, nor any of the other low grade ignorant abuse on these pages, he is clearly a very intelligent man and has enjoyed success at a high level. I agree, though, that his football is too high risk for the players we have, but you saw the fight in the last two games, there was excellent attacking play first half, well-timed switches and proper chances created. And Disasi and Mingueza played very well, and left it all on the pitch. With time and a good window I think he has the competence and the commitment to turn it round, but the inadequate recruitment in defence and the fact that two of our attacking stars want away has made it too difficult to get a tune from the players at his disposal. He was dealt a bad hand, he could have played it better, I thought Leeds would be a turning point, but I don't think Pep or Klopp would have got more than an extra two points with the squad we have now. Be surprised if he's still in charge for the next game, but it saddens me.
Willo
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Heavens to Murgatroyd.
I have been an avid supporter since the 60s and experienced the high and lows over the long years.
I take no pleasure at all from our current position and would be utterly distraught if we slipped through that dastardly relegation 'Trapdoor'.
Palacesince64
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If I understand Sage’s post match comments he said because we were a goal down, albeit unlucky to be losing at halftime, we pushed the fullbacks higher to try to get an equaliser and that left space which Liverpool exploited with their pace. Given how well we played in the first half, the correct decision at halftime was surely more of the same and we will get chances to equalise. Watching the game I assumed Iraola had instructed his team to sit deep and draw us out to hit on the break. If it was Sage’s idea to press higher then that second half performance was his fault as he played into Iraola’s hands.
RubinsCube
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I watched the first half on Sky today. I did not see the second half.
Based on that first half, as others have said we looked competitive and could/should have scored at least one before the break. But that is not what I remember most vividly.
What I remember most vividly is another cross, another overload at the back post to another completely unmarked Liverpool forward (Barcola). The forward fluffed his lines this time. There was no massive fizz or magic on the cross: part of Liverpool's first half tactics today were simple hang ups to the back post knowing it is so simple to cause us problems doing this.
Then a second cross, MacAllister initially being picked up but then left completely. A routine dart towards the near post area did not just give him a yard. It left him completely unmarked. It was a great header to finish. 0-1 and momentum swings.
For Barcola read any number of Fulham players in the cup match, the first Spurs goal last match, and many others.
For MacAllister, read the first Newcastle goal, the Joachim Anderson missed header in the cup match and doubtless others.
The team just cannot seem to be able to stop repeating the same mistakes. We are conceding at least two goals per game and we are far from efficient ourselves in the final third (Kamada, JSL, Pino today in the first half).
No doubt discussions are in place or have concluded to change the coaching staff. I really wanted it to work with Sage; I think he is a good coach and there is something very affable about him. But he is unlikely to get a tune out of these players playing the way he wants them to play.
We are sinking with each passing league round and, even with Coventry and Hull next, I do not see us winning both of those games to get us some momentum.
Based on that first half, as others have said we looked competitive and could/should have scored at least one before the break. But that is not what I remember most vividly.
What I remember most vividly is another cross, another overload at the back post to another completely unmarked Liverpool forward (Barcola). The forward fluffed his lines this time. There was no massive fizz or magic on the cross: part of Liverpool's first half tactics today were simple hang ups to the back post knowing it is so simple to cause us problems doing this.
Then a second cross, MacAllister initially being picked up but then left completely. A routine dart towards the near post area did not just give him a yard. It left him completely unmarked. It was a great header to finish. 0-1 and momentum swings.
For Barcola read any number of Fulham players in the cup match, the first Spurs goal last match, and many others.
For MacAllister, read the first Newcastle goal, the Joachim Anderson missed header in the cup match and doubtless others.
The team just cannot seem to be able to stop repeating the same mistakes. We are conceding at least two goals per game and we are far from efficient ourselves in the final third (Kamada, JSL, Pino today in the first half).
No doubt discussions are in place or have concluded to change the coaching staff. I really wanted it to work with Sage; I think he is a good coach and there is something very affable about him. But he is unlikely to get a tune out of these players playing the way he wants them to play.
We are sinking with each passing league round and, even with Coventry and Hull next, I do not see us winning both of those games to get us some momentum.