Crystal Palace vs Leeds match thread

[Sportyteacher]

Turgid game as reflected by no shots on goal for Palace. Valuable points lost and with more challenging games to come. I fear for Palace away at Larnaca with the lack of quality clinical finish up front.

 

[OneStevePerrin]

I am certainly not expecting to witness them playing together.
Quite why Mateta has replaced JSL in recent matches is beyond my comprehension.
JSL has netted for us recently, Mateta has only scored 1 goal from 'Open Play' in his last 19 PL games and his overall contribution has been a disappointment.

I can only believe it’s a tiredness substitution. Whoever of those two are on the pitch gets no service to make a difference. Only way it would, is that Glasner changes the formation. And we know that’s not going to happen :-( None of our players are going to score in the present found out system unless he changes something or we get lucky. Not sure how offside our goal ruled out was yesterday but that was our only change of system play. Glasner will surely tell them off for doing something different ;-)

 

[Willo]

I can only believe it’s a tiredness substitution. Whoever of those two are on the pitch gets no service to make a difference. Only way it would, is that Glasner changes the formation. And we know that’s not going to happen :-( None of our players are going to score in the present found out system unless he changes something or we get lucky. Not sure how offside our goal ruled out was yesterday but that was our only change of system play. Glasner will surely tell them off for doing something different ;-)

Presented with this opinion, Glasner might respond with the fact that we did manage to score 3 goals at Tottenham and prior to our last 2 goalless matches we had netted in our previous 11 games in all competitions.
I accept that two 0-0 draws at Home against Larnaca and 10 man Leeds is a disappointment.

 

[elgin eeagle]

Not sure i just thought the player shuffled forward like they all do

Both times the player was well behind the line and the ref told him to move closer towards it Maybe Farke had instructed them to stand back slightly for some reason.

 

[Den1923]

No we have 39 points. Season is drawing to a close

Don't understand your comment?

 

[esox lucius]

Watching Palace atm for me is a tough watch, as a matter of fact that goes for football in general, all this tippy tappy constant passing the ball around without any end product is very tedious. All in wrestling at corners because it’s about the only way teams score these days. I can’t remember the last time I saw someone take on a defender.

Just can’t wait for this season to finish, I hope we get a progressive manager in with fresh ideas. I’ll renew my season ticket this time as I always do, however the way I feel it could be my last.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Watching Palace atm for me is a tough watch, as a matter of fact that goes for football in general, all this tippy tappy constant passing the ball around without any end product is very tedious. All in wrestling at corners because it’s about the only way teams score these days. I can’t remember the last time I saw someone take on a defender.

Just can’t wait for this season to finish, I hope we get a progressive manager in with fresh ideas. I’ll renew my season ticket this time as I always do, however the way I feel it could be my last.

Football is supposed to be about entertainment as well as results and that a committed supporter is feeling so disillusioned is sad to read.
Mind you how many times have we all said, or thought, the same but still can't break the habit?

 

[Glazier#1]

Our play over the last 2 games has been very ponderous. Canvot had so much time on the ball in the second half but he just passed it forward. This left our 3 centre backs marking DCL so there were no options for the midfielders to pass the ball on to as although we had an extra player Leeds still had an extra player defending as our centre backs were not committing anyone in the build up. Glasner tried to change this by moving Lerma to the back instead of Canvot but he did no better. It just looked liked we did not want to lose as opposed to busting a gut to get the 3 points.
Canvot won't win any fans within the game with his sending off celebration - great if was because he was celebrating a goal but at the expense of a fellow professional who was the victim of a poor decision from the referee is very disrespectful in my eyes. Football at various levels is a small community and he could end up playing with opposition players in the future.

Yes, I agree. To see him celebrating like that is disgraceful and symptomatic of our game's ills at present:
players play acting after an innocuous foul, doing everything to con the ref, the shambolic corner situation where players are simply allowed to commit fouls that, anywhere else would be penalised, so called 'head injuries' to waste time. It's all s**t and just makes me less interested in watching. Did Sarr get so badly hurt as he appeared to show? No. Cheat. And before that incoming flak, just because they all do it doesn't make it right.

It's a cheats charter and it carries on uncontested.

I'm a Palace fan and have been for nigh on 65 years but what we saw yesterday was plain cheating, not the game I want to see.

 

[selsdon56]

Don't understand your comment?

we are not dead certs for the drop did you read what I was replying to.

 

[park the bus]

I'm looking at the squad Roy Hodgson had in the 201/19 season and which finished 12th; in my opinion it is better than that we have currently, excepting the abysmal Benteke. We have spent heavily this season but so far there is little to show for that expenditure, recruitment is clearly an issue and whoever steps up next is going to have an issue with sub standard signings, let alone players leaving and finding decent replacements.
What is the moral of the story? We took a few seasons to assemble a side that held together just long enough to win a cup before being cherry picked. It is unlikely to happen again anytime soon, so a return to the pragmatism of the Hodgson years is probable, getting just enough points to tread water and avoid relegation yet at ever greater cost.
It would be nice if we had a manager who insists on a few shots on target at the very least.

 

[JessieJ]

Yes, I agree. To see him celebrating like that is disgraceful and symptomatic of our game's ills at present:
players play acting after an innocuous foul, doing everything to con the ref, the shambolic corner situation where players are simply allowed to commit fouls that, anywhere else would be penalised, so called 'head injuries' to waste time. It's all s**t and just makes me less interested in watching. Did Sarr get so badly hurt as he appeared to show? No. Cheat. And before that incoming flak, just because they all do it doesn't make it right.

It's a cheats charter and it carries on uncontested.

I'm a Palace fan and have been for nigh on 65 years but what we saw yesterday was plain cheating, not the game I want to see.

Absolutely right. Canvot was out of order and so was Sarr, and so are all those who cheat whichever club they represent. Falling over screaming, holding their heads when maybe somebody trod on their toe, banging the turf as if in pain. With all the ills in the game it's this and the fact that referees and VAR don't punish it, that is killing the enjoyment. It's so easy to stop but it seems to be accepted as normal. Also when ex-profis come out and say "he was touched so he had to go down" why isn't this picked up on and commented

 

[OneStevePerrin]

I'm looking at the squad Roy Hodgson had in the 201/19 season and which finished 12th; in my opinion it is better than that we have currently, excepting the abysmal Benteke. We have spent heavily this season but so far there is little to show for that expenditure, recruitment is clearly an issue and whoever steps up next is going to have an issue with sub standard signings, let alone players leaving and finding decent replacements.
What is the moral of the story? We took a few seasons to assemble a side that held together just long enough to win a cup before being cherry picked. It is unlikely to happen again anytime soon, so a return to the pragmatism of the Hodgson years is probable, getting just enough points to tread water and avoid relegation yet at ever greater cost.
It would be nice if we had a manager who insists on a few shots on target at the very least.

I suppose most of us thought winning 2 trophies meant we were in with the big boys. Sadly we are a small club money wise compared to most in the premiership. Our goal is still to stay up and hope for cup runs. Eventually we will go down as has happened to bigger clubs than us. The hope is that we can come back or at least not continue falling. With Parish and our American backing hopefully this doesn’t happen soon? It hasn’t helped this season that we have lost better players than we have brought in or that Glasner has said some negative comments and players aren’t responding to him as well as they did early on. We also shouldn’t expect us to be as good as the big 6 / 8 in this division. I certainly do understand why we are despondent at the moment though after our European games and the last few months as we (Glasner) didn’t help with some of the selections or substitutes used in those matches. Let’s hope we get the result required this Thursday but like many I’m not confident :-(

 

[radicalsteve]

Absolutely right. Canvot was out of order and so was Sarr, and so are all those who cheat whichever club they represent. Falling over screaming, holding their heads when maybe somebody trod on their toe, banging the turf as if in pain. With all the ills in the game it's this and the fact that referees and VAR don't punish it, that is killing the enjoyment. It's so easy to stop but it seems to be accepted as normal. Also when ex-profis come out and say "he was touched so he had to go down" why isn't this picked up on and commented

Agree Canvot embarrassed himself and therefore the club ..... however it is also an immature 19 year old on view and maybe at the time it seemed quite amusing, but I can't see a Dowman or Ngomoha doing that, so it reflects poorly on the culture in the dressing room and leadership on and off the pitch.

 

[Norbury Old Git]

Watching OG’s version of Royball yesterday nearly drove me mental. The most disappointing aspect was Lacroix and Richards, two senior players, playing tap tap football to each other with neither prepared to play the ball forwards or into space behind Leeds defence for our forwards to run onto. This allowed the Leeds team to have a rest then organise themselves ready for anything we threw at them.

Glasner compounded the problem by taking off Canvot and Hughes, two players who tried to play the ball forwards and given 7* ratings in some press reports. It seems to me that the players have given up on Glasner and are doing the minimum necessary to get to the end of his contract an in some cases their own.

After that rubbish yesterday I suspect Parish will only keep OG on if we get past Larnaca.

 

[Palacesince64]

Football is supposed to be about entertainment as well as results and that a committed supporter is feeling so disillusioned is sad to read.
Mind you how many times have we all said, or thought, the same but still can't break the habit?

Interestingly at the post match presser a reporter suggested that Palace fans are used to entertaining football and are unhappy that the current side is lacking in flair. He got annoyed at the suggestion his side wasn’t more entertaining than previous Palace sides, quoted how many goals his team has scored compared with previous sides and then effectively said that fighting relegation is the norm for Palace. He does tend to lash out when challenged!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Interestingly at the post match presser a reporter suggested that Palace fans are used to entertaining football and are unhappy that the current side is lacking in flair. He got annoyed at the suggestion his side wasn’t more entertaining than previous Palace sides, quoted how many goals his team has scored compared with previous sides and then effectively said that fighting relegation is the norm for Palace. He does tend to lash out when challenged!

Yes he does.
My sense is that the general feeling among supporters of PL clubs is not particularly good at the moment. The game has become sterile and VAR hasn't helped - if anything blatant cheating has increased and is often praised as professionalism.
It could also be that there's just too much football available to watch and most of it isn't particularly interesting; Arsenal are top and I can't be bothered watching them - the game should be more than grappling at corners.

 

[Willo]

Yes he does.
My sense is that the general feeling among supporters of PL clubs is not particularly good at the moment. The game has become sterile and VAR hasn't helped - if anything blatant cheating has increased and is often praised as professionalism.
It could also be that there's just too much football available to watch and most of it isn't particularly interesting; Arsenal are top and I can't be bothered watching them - the game should be more than grappling at corners.

I am fortunate enough to be able to access 'Sky HD+'. Often I will watch games in Divisions 1 and 2, sometimes switching at HT from one game to another.

 

[Frickin Saweet]

Yes, I agree. To see him celebrating like that is disgraceful and symptomatic of our game's ills at present:
players play acting after an innocuous foul, doing everything to con the ref, the shambolic corner situation where players are simply allowed to commit fouls that, anywhere else would be penalised, so called 'head injuries' to waste time. It's all s**t and just makes me less interested in watching. Did Sarr get so badly hurt as he appeared to show? No. Cheat. And before that incoming flak, just because they all do it doesn't make it right.

It's a cheats charter and it carries on uncontested.

I'm a Palace fan and have been for nigh on 65 years but what we saw yesterday was plain cheating, not the game I want to see.

was speaking to an Arsenal supporting friend about this topic and he used that very excuse. The example was Gabrielle. He's happy to wrestle attackers to the ground using all of his athleticism and strength, yet when he's touched he crumples to the ground as if in immense pain. It's pathetic, it's cheating, it should be f*cking embarrassing to think that a video clip will do the rounds after players do this but I don't think they care. The horse has sadly bolted on this sort of thing. I'd love to see it retrospectively punished or at least called out officially as letting the game down - a 'spirit of football' that all players have to sign up to and can be held accountable to, in a similar way that cricket has (although players don't walk like they used to).

 

[Eaglecoops]

was speaking to an Arsenal supporting friend about this topic and he used that very excuse. The example was Gabrielle. He's happy to wrestle attackers to the ground using all of his athleticism and strength, yet when he's touched he crumples to the ground as if in immense pain. It's pathetic, it's cheating, it should be f*cking embarrassing to think that a video clip will do the rounds after players do this but I don't think they care. The horse has sadly bolted on this sort of thing. I'd love to see it retrospectively punished or at least called out officially as letting the game down - a 'spirit of football' that all players have to sign up to and can be held accountable to, in a similar way that cricket has (although players don't walk like they used to).

I think it’s the modern jock strap causing that.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I think it’s the modern jock strap causing that.

Not surprising if they've shrunk as much as shin pads.