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Cancer - is there an upsurge in cases?

becky

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Cancer has been around since forever, throughout my adult life there was always one or at most two people in the circle of family, friends and neighbours that were suffering with it at any one time.

Suddenly, in the last year or so, there seems to have been a massive increase in the number of people I know/know of who are affected: at present the number is up to 11 people, covering a variety of cancers - 3 have it in the stomach/oesophagus, three have breast cancer, 2 have it in the liver and one each have pancreatic, bowel and blood cancers. That really is a huge jump in numbers!

At first, I thought that perhaps it was just us all growing older, and there was a natural tendency to be more likely to be affected, but of that 11 nearly half are under 55, so that's not really a major contributory factor.

Am I the only one to have this strange sudden increase in the number of sufferers in their lives or has anyone else noticed this too?

Can't help but wonder why this should suddenly be happening when there is so much emphasis on a healthy lifestyle and preventative measures. Or is it all just down to people being more aware and seeking advice sooner?


I know this isn't News or Politics, but seemed too serious a subject for General Talk
 
becky said:
Cancer has been around since forever, throughout my adult life there was always one or at most two people in the circle of family, friends and neighbours that were suffering with it at any one time.

Suddenly, in the last year or so, there seems to have been a massive increase in the number of people I know/know of who are affected: at present the number is up to 11 people, covering a variety of cancers - 3 have it in the stomach/oesophagus, three have breast cancer, 2 have it in the liver and one each have pancreatic, bowel and blood cancers. That really is a huge jump in numbers!

At first, I thought that perhaps it was just us all growing older, and there was a natural tendency to be more likely to be affected, but of that 11 nearly half are under 55, so that's not really a major contributory factor.

Am I the only one to have this strange sudden increase in the number of sufferers in their lives or has anyone else noticed this too?

Can't help but wonder why this should suddenly be happening when there is so much emphasis on a healthy lifestyle and preventative measures. Or is it all just down to people being more aware and seeking advice sooner?


I know this isn't News or Politics, but seemed too serious a subject for General Talk
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After years of nuclear tests and several known and not so known nuclear accidents, it shouldn't be that surprising. We also ingest food and drink that is laced with all kinds of chemicals, the long term effects of which we can only guess at, not forgetting alcohol alone and pharmaceuticals.
Pollution was also pretty bad until recent times, including smoking in public buildings.
 
Possible causes:

Obesity linked to junk food / Ready meals: we are eating a lot more of these loaded with salt and sugar and trans fat.

Microplastics: Apparently we are all ingesting these especially women through cosmetic products.

Smoking: This could be a left over from when most people smoked at a younger age. My neighbour died of throat cancer but hadn't smoked in 20 years before it emerged.

Pollution: It can't be ruled out. There are more cars on the road than ever.

Awareness: Definitely people are more aware these days.

Longevity. People are generally living longer than say 100 years ago as we conquer certain conditions e.g. infant mortality it just means you die of something else.


Anyway just my thoughts.
 
I have noticed the increase as well. 3 close friends diagnosed recently. There is definitely more awareness and people are getting tested. Once you break in to NHS treatment it is very good and success rates are growing all the time. Plus a lot of us older models are generally more health alert.
 
yes becky, probably correct.

compared to Hunter-Gatherers we are now.....

a) living in a very toxic World, full of chemicals & radiation everywhere.

b) living 2 to 3 times the lifespan of the previous Median.

c) smoking, drinking, eating much more quantity than we ought. Eating shyte food that tastes nice and is easily available.

d) very sedentary

More education might help. Many people are unaware of the cancer risks inherent with microwave popcorn, burnt BBQ meat, and obesity. The alcohol industry has spent at least 100 years brainwashing us about the great benefits of moderate consumption.....which is mostly bv.llsh1.t
 
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Stirlingsays said:
Mmmm....there's obviously an elephant in the room.
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indeed. And they know, deep down.

I just wish folks had my ‘awakening’ back in 2020 and questioned the lot from the start. I was called tin foil hat and far worse.

I was one of those Qanon guys. Still am to an extent. Trump was saying stuff in press Q posted weeks before. So knew there was more to it all.

The Q narrative was ‘the people can’t be told, they have to be shown’. So I guess that’s with all of what has happened.

And also for the upcoming fake WW3 narrative the vaxed will lap up also.

Wake up. Question everything.

New banking system on route and its blockchain. And I won’t go in vax debates as it’s actually only 5% of what is going on right now.

This is mostly been about new banking system that happens every 2/3 generations and Hollywood pedo rings being exposed

For starters. Check Biden older pics til now. Biden had an island near Epsteins…






 

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PalazioVecchio said:
yes becky, probably correct.

compared to Hunter-Gatherers we are now.....

a) living in a very toxic World, full of chemicals & radiation everywhere.

b) living 2 to 3 times the lifespan of the previous Median.

c) smoking, drinking, eating much more quantity than we ought. Eating shyte food that tastes nice and is easily available.

d) very sedentary

More education might help. Many people are unaware of the cancer risks inherent with microwave popcorn, burnt BBQ meat, and obesity. The alcohol industry has spent at least 100 years brainwashing us about the great benefits of moderate consumption.....which is mostly bv.llsh1.t
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Yes, I agree with all your points, but isn't it a bit strange that the effects of all these suddenly all 'hit' in the same year or 2 - a very, very long way from our hunter-gatherer days.....
 
matthau said:
indeed. And they know, deep down.

I just wish folks had my ‘awakening’ back in 2020 and questioned the lot from the start. I was called tin foil hat and far worse.

I was one of those Qanon guys. Still am to an extent. Trump was saying stuff in press Q posted weeks before. So knew there was more to it all.

The Q narrative was ‘the people can’t be told, they have to be shown’. So I guess that’s with all of what has happened.
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Qanon was a huge troll.
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
After years of nuclear tests and several known and not so known nuclear accidents, it shouldn't be that surprising. We also ingest food and drink that is laced with all kinds of chemicals, the long term effects of which we can only guess at, not forgetting alcohol alone and pharmaceuticals.
Pollution was also pretty bad until recent times, including smoking in public buildings.
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That’s as ignorant as some of the things that the US Health Secretary says.

That we eat poor diets, containing too much sugar, fat and salt is undoubtedly true. That is what is of genuine concern and not the additives which enable food to be preserved and available. All of which have been rigorously tested and any which show the slightest concern ruled out. Many being things found completely naturally in other foodstuffs.
 
My (very young ) nephew in Belfast has been treated for cancer last fews years.
A friend of my brother inlaw who I know from many Norn Iron holidays abroad, has been given a year to live (lung cancer)
Mate in England has lung cancer.
Cousins husband recently died of liver cancer
I was diagnosed with bone marrow cancer & blood cancer a few months ago, Work to remedy currently in progress.
Ive drank too much in the past, but besides that have a very physical job, workout / gym 3-5 days a week, weight & BMI bang on, dont smoke & eat very well, quality wise, get plenty sleep, in general look after myself.
Maybe its coincidence but from personal group of relatives etc, it seems to be very much on increase.
Its a thorny subject, but Id not take the covid jab if I could reverse that.
 
Google says:-

“Yes, cancer diagnoses are increasing, especially among younger adults. This trend is observed globally and in the UK, with a notable rise in cancer incidence rates among people in their 20s, 30s, and 40s.

Here's a more detailed look at the trends:
  • Overall Increase:
    The NHS in England diagnosed over 11,000 more cancers in 2022, reaching a new record high, with almost 950 people diagnosed daily.

  • Rising Rates in Younger Adults:
    A global study found that the incidence of early-onset cancer (in people aged 14-49) increased by around 79% between 1990 and 2019. Similarly, in the UK, cancer incidence rates among people aged 25-49 increased by 22% between 1993-1995 and 2016-2018.

    • Potential Causes:
      While the exact reasons for this rise are still being investigated, some potential factors include:
        • Aging Population: With people living longer, the overall risk of developing cancer increases with age.
        • Lifestyle Factors: Diet, obesity, smoking, alcohol consumption, and exposure to environmental toxins may contribute to the rise in certain cancer types.
        • Changes in Diagnostic Practices: Improvements in diagnosis and screening may also lead to more cases being detected.
    • Specific Cancer Types:
      Some studies suggest increases in breast, colorectal, and other cancers in younger adults.
In summary, while overall cancer rates are rising, the most notable increase is in the incidence of cancer among younger adults, and research is ongoing to understand the underlying causes of this trend”
 
I think, along with other causes previously mentioned, that our diagnosis and identification is getting exceptionally good.
Before Marie Curie, perhaps doctors were giving misdiagnosed causes of death, or mistreating. Perhaps putting on death certificates, Consumption, bladder infection, or some such illness of the time.
Also as we get older, we are statistically more likely to have encountered, and also more likely to be around people with cancer. Just another depressing part of getting older.
But also statistics throw a fair rew random events , where some families don't come across cancer, or other families are devastated by it.
The answer to Becky's question is, I don't have a scooby doo.
 
Over the last two years, both my dad and brother have been diagnosed, my good friend has died of bowel cancer and a colleague at work has just been diagnosed with the same.

As Bob has said previously on this thread, Im suspicious of the covid jab, and have been saying so for quite a while.

There's definitely been an upsurge since covid.
 
martin2412 said:
Over the last two years, both my dad and brother have been diagnosed, my good friend has died of bowel cancer and a colleague at work has just been diagnosed with the same.

As Bob has said previously on this thread, Im suspicious of the covid jab, and have been saying so for quite a while.

There's definitely been an upsurge since covid.
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Would be interesting to know if the immune systems may have been stressed too much with them and especially with the continuous boosters.
 
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