Bournemouth match thread

[Willo]

And with equal respect, nor have you openly agreed to a criticism of poor refereeing.

The game over the weekend was one such opportunity.

The same referee's even less comprehensible error on the opening day was another.

Experienced, trained and vetted EPL refs are still human, but should always operate within acceptable ranges of competence. Contrary to what some of those who post on here say, referees pretty much always do just that. We will always disagree when marginal decisions go against us and overlook the balancing marginals that went the other way. It's the game.

But when they fall outside that - especially to the extent this numpty did with the Eze free kick - we are all entitled to call him out.

You can only stray so far from the path.

Apropos the officiating on Saturday, the narrative of "Consistency" raised its head.
Incidents are not all the same, there are nuances and of course subjectivity enters the equation.

 

[PatrickA]

I think getting Willo to criticise a referee on these forums is about as likely as my scoring the winning goal for Palace in the Cup Final.
And I’m approaching 70.

All shades of opinion permitted on these forums - except those that criticise error prone (and perhaps worse) referees.
I’m old enough to remember the referee bribery scandals of yesteryear leading to suspensions and bans.

Not that I’m suggesting that this was the case for Saturday’s referee….

However, being a referee doesn’t give an individual some kind of moral superiority and they should be as accountable as anybody else in a position of authority.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Apropos the officiating on Saturday, the narrative of "Consistency" raised its head.
Incidents are not all the same, there are nuances and of course subjectivity enters the equation.

What nuances should be considered when comparing Richard's and Scott's respective challenges on Saturday?

Scott's was a worse challenge, more central, closer to the goal and with more supporting attackers.

What am I missing?

 

[Eagleman13]

What nuances should be considered when comparing Richard's and Scott's respective challenges on Saturday?

Scott's was a worse challenge, more central, closer to the goal and with more supporting attackers.

What am I missing?

Being a Referee . . . 😉

 

[ASCPFC]

Apropos the officiating on Saturday, the narrative of "Consistency" raised its head.
Incidents are not all the same, there are nuances and of course subjectivity enters the equation.

I think the ref was consistent in being inconsistent.

 

[Willo]

What nuances should be considered when comparing Richard's and Scott's respective challenges on Saturday?

Scott's was a worse challenge, more central, closer to the goal and with more supporting attackers.

What am I missing?

The referee made decisions during the pressure of a PL game and of course some have not met with universal approval.
The 'Key Match Incidents Panel' sits each week to review major decisions and assesses the outcomes of on-field and VAR decisions.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

The referee made decisions during the pressure of a PL game and of course some have not met with universal approval.
The 'Key Match Incidents Panel' sits each week to review major decisions and assesses the outcomes of on-field and VAR decisions.

That doesn't even attempt to answer my question.

Never mind 'nuances', this is the sort of inane waffle you could copy and paste to any single refereeing decision taken throughout a season.

 

[Willo]

That doesn't even attempt to answer my question.

Never mind 'nuances', this is the sort of inane waffle you could copy and paste to any single refereeing decision taken throughout a season.

You might believe that my burblings are re-heated old tosh but I have been consistent in my messaging.
Referees are only human beings and all humans err from time to time as perfection is not in the human gift.
Apropos 'Consistency' on the field of play, subjectivity enters the equation and the debate rages when there are those who have concluded that their team has been adversely affected by what they believe is unequal treatment.

 

[CrazyBadger]

The Standard of reffing in this country is getting worse. They are self-governing and hold themselves to account, which I'm amazed is allowed to continue in this current climate. It's getting to a point that someone needs to take it higher - say the Court of Arbitration for Sport - to force the Refs to improve. If only it can be proven absolutely that decisions are costing teams financially - i.e. costs them a league position or missed out on a cup final berth, but I cannot see how that is possible. We need the PGMOL to face the press or be mic'ed up or some other way they can be held to account or they'll never improve - why would they?

 

[CPFCSaturn]

You might believe that my burblings are re-heated old tosh but I have been consistent in my messaging.
Referees are only human beings and all humans err from time to time as perfection is not in the human gift.
Apropos 'Consistency' on the field of play, subjectivity enters the equation and the debate rages when there are those who have concluded that their team has been adversely affected by what they believe is unequal treatment.

It's easy to be consistent when you're not actually saying anything!

Yes, referees are human beings and therefore decisions might not be perfect - I'm sure no one else had thought of that.

 

[Willo]

It's easy to be consistent when you're not actually saying anything!

Yes, referees are human beings and therefore decisions might not be perfect - I'm sure no one else had thought of that.

I believe my messaging, whilst at times being somewhat florid in articulation, has been understood enough to attract approbation and opprobrium in differing quantities.

Apropos your final comment, sometimes I do wonder if the human element is forgotten when I witness referees being on the receiving end of unrelenting invective.

 

[Palacesince64]

I believe my messaging, whilst at times being somewhat florid in articulation, has been understood enough to attract approbation and opprobrium in differing quantities.

Apropos your final comment, sometimes I do wonder if the human element is forgotten when I witness referees being on the receiving end of unrelenting invective.

I do have a degree of sympathy with your viewpoint especially given the way players dive and feign injury and also hound the referee. I can’t for the life of me understand why it is so prevalent in football and absent in rugby.
Having said that one can’t excuse the referee on this occasion despite the antics of the Bournemouth players. He had a shocker and is rightly being criticised from all areas, not just from the fans.