Another terror attack

[DanH]

More distortion from you, where did I say it was all Islamic extremists?

Did you post that knowing that there were twice more extreme right wing referrals than Islamist ones? Or deliberately didn’t mention it?

Ignorance or deliberate obfuscation?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

George posted about 9,000 people being referred to Prevent in the last year, thinking, falsely, it was all Islamic extremists.

I posted the stats to point out that far more were right wing extremists referred than Islamist.

All I’m doing is posting stats and facts. You thinking it’s ’for balance’ is your opinion. If you provide some evidence otherwise I’ll take it seriously.

Because the leftists who refer them probably think that the Tories are extremists.

You have to think about the type of people who are in a position to do it.
People like you.

 

[DanH]

Because the leftists who refer them probably think that the Tories are extremists.

You have to think about the type of people who are in a position to do it.
People like you.

No evidence then?

 

[georgenorman]

Did you post that knowing that there were twice more extreme right wing referrals than Islamist ones? Or deliberately didn’t mention it?

Ignorance or deliberate obfuscation?

So you accept that I did not say they were all Islamic Extremists and that you made that up?
I posted it because I was shocked that there were round 9,000 referral to 'Prevent' last year. I was also shocked that they are given a £49 million annual budget and that we appear to get f'all from it - in fact several of their clients have gone on to murder and maim, one even at a 'Prevent' event where they were wheeling him out as a success story.

 

[DanH]

I posted it because I was shocked that there were round 9,000 referral to 'Prevent' last year. I was also shocked that they are given a £49 million annual budget and that we appear to get f'all from it - in fact several of their clients have gone on to murder and maim, one even at a 'Prevent' event where they were wheeling him out as a success story.

You don’t think £49 million to stop 9,000 potential terrorists is value for money? It’s £5,500 per potential terrorist attack.

Surely the more ‘f’all’ you feel like you get it from the better if you don’t know it’s happening behind the scenes?

 

[georgenorman]

You don’t think £49 million to stop 9,000 potential terrorists is value for money?

What evidence do we have that it stopped any terrorism?

 

[DanH]

What evidence do we have that it stopped any terrorism?

The fact that they have 9,000 referrals a year and there’s a handful of terrorist attacks a year? The majority unsophisticated and one person with a kitchen knife.

What do you want, a newsletter of all the one they’ve stopped?

 

[georgenorman]

The fact that they have 9,000 referrals a year and there’s a handful a year?

What do you want, a newsletter of all the one they’ve stopped?

Yes please. By the way, do you accept that I did not say they were all Islamic Extremists and that you made that up?

 

[DanH]

Yes please. By the way, do you accept that I did not say they were all Islamic Extremists and that you made that up?

A heavy inferral, yes. Did you check the breakdown of the referrals before you posted it?

 

[georgenorman]

A heavy inferral, yes. Did you check the breakdown of the referrals before you posted it?

Why would I, it was not the point that I was making. Did you read my original post carefully before stating an outright untruth.

 

[DanH]

Why would I, it was not the point that I was making.

So what was the point?

 

[georgenorman]

So what was the point?

That I was shocked that there were round 9,000 referrals to 'Prevent' last year and that they are given a £49 million annual budget.

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

No evidence then?

Yawn!

 

[DanH]

Yawn!

You say that I’m not grounded in reality yet I post facts and stats.

Where are yours?

 

[DanH]

That I was shocked that there were round 9,000 referrals to 'Prevent' last year and that they are given a £49 million annual budget.

Under £6k per potential terrorist attack. That sounds like a good use of our money.

Would you prefer it to be dissolved and no resources stopping horrible things happening?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

You say that I’m not grounded in reality yet I post facts and stats.

Where are yours?

Haven't you heard the quote about there being lies, damned lies and statistics?

I'm not impressed.

 

[DanH]

Haven't you heard the quote about there being lies, damned lies and statistics?

I'm not impressed.

Just don’t ever accuse me of not being grounded in reality when you have nothing to offer but your own opinion when I provide evidence to back up my point.

 

[georgenorman]

Under £6k per potential terrorist attack. That sounds like a good use of our money.

Would you prefer it to be dissolved and no resources stopping horrible things happening?

You think there would have been around 9,000 terror attacks if it hadn't been for Prevent?

 

[Hrolf The Ganger]

Just don’t ever accuse me of not being grounded in reality when you have nothing to offer but your own opinion when I provide evidence to back up my point.

You have provided nothing other than to confirm the bias in our institutions which we already know about.

There is next to no 'far right' threat in this country. It's totally codswallop manufactured purely to placate potential voters and keep a boot on the neck of the British people.

Your endless drone of denial is falling on deaf ears.

 

[DanH]

You have provided nothing other than to confirm the bias in our institutions which we already know about.

There is next to no 'far right' threat in this country. It's totally codswallop manufactured purely to placate potential voters and keep a boot on the neck of the British people.

Your endless drone of denial is falling on deaf ears.

So those 4 right wing extremists that are now in prison were no threat? Would you be happy with them roaming the streets?