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Kamada - Improving!

Gribbo

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There was an audible groan around us yesterday when OG decided to sub our best player on the evening, Will Hughes for Daichi yesterday. In fairness, and although against lesser opposition he was good against Stockport, and better in his 30 minutes last night. Made a few telling tackles and some good defence-splitting through balls. Hope he is finding his feet and fingers crossed he comes good. In Ollie we trust. Well done Daichi.
 
There was an audible groan around us yesterday when OG decided to sub our best player on the evening, Will Hughes for Daichi yesterday. In fairness, and although against lesser opposition he was good against Stockport, and better in his 30 minutes last night. Made a few telling tackles and some good defence-splitting through balls. Hope he is finding his feet and fingers crossed he comes good. In Ollie we trust. Well done Daichi.
For an experienced international footballer who is rated by OG he seems remarkably ill at ease and out of place. Even in the pre-match warm ups. And he has played awful since he joined. But he was voted MOM for Stockport and I thought he played his best game yet vs Leicester. In Ollie we trust. He's not going anywhere else anytime soon on his huge salary with us.....so I continue to give him time. Nothing good can come from concerted slagging him off. Let's encourage him. Give him his own song for next time he plays well??
 
For an experienced international footballer who is rated by OG he seems remarkably ill at ease and out of place. Even in the pre-match warm ups. And he has played awful since he joined. But he was voted MOM for Stockport and I thought he played his best game yet vs Leicester. In Ollie we trust. He's not going anywhere else anytime soon on his huge salary with us.....so I continue to give him time. Nothing good can come from concerted slagging him off. Let's encourage him. Give him his own song for next time he plays well??
Apart from Turning Japanese? It might fit but had unfortunate connotations.
 
One of my takes on Kamada is that he looks to play one touch play in and around the box to help unlock defences as opposed to taking 2 touches by which time you have been closed down. These may not come off all the time and also require the players you are trying to play through to be on the same wavelength as you. I thought early on the season this was definitely not the case and you never quite know if it is because the front players are not making the runs or making the wrong ones or Kamada is not picking them out. With the potential language barrier and the lack of a pre season for a lot of players this was probably to be expected.
I still think there is a player in there and as the familarity with his team mates grows i expect this to improve as was evident to his through ball to Nketiah in the later stages of the Stockport game.
 
How about in the event of getting on the scoresheet... KaMa KaMa KaMa KaMaDa San, He's scoring goals, He's scoring goals!
(To the tune of Karma Chameleon)
He has a reasonable scoring record before coming to Palace and for me he looks like he can finish. It just looks like our midfielders don't push on to much as i think his goal out put compares favourably with Hughes Lerma and Doucoure ( Has any of them scored this season ) !! Accepted he has played a bit further forward but this has mainly been as a sub when we have been looking to close out a game.
 
I do feel sorry for the lad as he is completely out of place it seems.

He just looks lost and wondering where he should run and what should he do.

The last two games it has not felt like we've gone down to 10 men when he comes on, but he's still nowhere near the standard of the PL. Don't get me started on his wages. I wonder if it affects the other players like Hughes, La Croix and Munoz (who pout in week after week) if they see poor performances being rewarded with higher salary?

For some on this thread, lets not get carried away ... he not at the level of being considered "did ok"
 
The WH pitch is 4 meters longer than ours (same width) it will suit our front 3 - When Kamada comes on for the last 20 minutes he will have plenty of opportunity to thread balls forward into all that extra space
 
Personally I think a lot a bit too harsh and quick to judge.

Its clear that he's technically good. A good touch, decent vision, and can pick a pass.

The league will be faster and more physical than he'll be used to, its going to take some time to adapt.

In the last 5 of so games, he's made positive impact on the games. And been one of the better players on the pitch. No not at the level we want, but significantly better than early season form.

Remember most of you lot were slagging off Sarr and Lacroix early on. And how much of a disaster it was to let Anderson go (see Fulham fans feelings on Anderson thread).
 
I do feel sorry for the lad as he is completely out of place it seems.

He just looks lost and wondering where he should run and what should he do.


The last two games it has not felt like we've gone down to 10 men when he comes on, but he's still nowhere near the standard of the PL. Don't get me started on his wages. I wonder if it affects the other players like Hughes, La Croix and Munoz (who pout in week after week) if they see poor performances being rewarded with higher salary?

For some on this thread, lets not get carried away ... he not at the level of being considered "did ok"

I just don't think that's remotely true - appreciate people see things differently, but I find it hard to accept he was worse than 'ok' against Leicester, or in fact in most of his recent performances.

He's not ripping up any trees but he's a functional part of the squad who has been asked to cover a variety of roles.

Still big question marks over whether he will make any sort of significant contribution here, but I find these narratives that he's some sort of lost puppy out there to be very exaggerated.

Free transfers always end up on higher wages - I'm very confident the other players understand that simple reality.
 
He has been awful and doesn't look to be getting better.

It doesn't help when you get limited game time and keep being used it different ways not using the players strengths (large % he is being put almost as a defensive mid)

I think we should give him a free pass this season for various reasons but if he is still like this next season he has to go (No point paying this much money in wages for people who are just filling numbers)
 
Looking back I think that Palace played him up a bit too much when we signed him. It was all about how this player we're getting from Lazio that Glasner thinks is amazing and "he knows how we want to play" will be a replacement for Eze if he goes, but I remember seeing the video of him arriving at the training ground and being greeted by Glasner and thinking that there didn't seem that much of a connection between the two.

Add on all this talk of being the highest wage earner and our expectation is sky high. Perhaps a lesson to be learned by the marketing team at Palace, if you put someone up on a pedestal before they've kicked a ball, then don't be surprised if they fall off.
 
I do feel sorry for the lad as he is completely out of place it seems.

He just looks lost and wondering where he should run and what should he do.

The last two games it has not felt like we've gone down to 10 men when he comes on, but he's still nowhere near the standard of the PL. Don't get me started on his wages. I wonder if it affects the other players like Hughes, La Croix and Munoz (who pout in week after week) if they see poor performances being rewarded with higher salary?

For some on this thread, lets not get carried away ... he not at the level of being considered "did ok"
His supposed salary incites a lot of opinion, nearly always quoting incorrect figures. His weekly wage is £47,000, his signing on fee was £6.14m spread over his 2 year contract, making £106k a week. His total cost for his 2 year contract £11m, to compare with Nketiah which is £275.9k a week or £43m over period of his contract.
That is why players like to run their contracts down, so they get a signing on fee at a new club.
 
I’ve never felt he was as bad as people on here have made him out to be. His start wasn’t helped by being played out of position when we were short of DMs. He’s taking time to adapt to the PL particularly as he hasn’t played that much especially in his preferred position, but he is definitely finding his feet. He has an eye for a pass and could ultimately be a better fit with Sarr and Mateta than Eze is.
 
Expecting Kamada to turn into the player we originally anticipated is about as likely as Nketiah being top scorer this season.
I disagree Eagle. His performance at Leicester was as much refreshing as it was surprising. I have been one on here knocking some of his very poor performances. But credit where credit is due. He showed the other night why I believe Glasner has persisted with him. If he continues in this vain, then we really will be strengthening our midfield options.
With regard to Nketiah, well let's just hope the Glasner magic is going to get sprinkled on him too.
 

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