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    Iran

    Sounds like ‘emotionalism’.
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    Iran

    I’m not sure why you keep talking about the left - as has been explained to you, and as is evidenced on this thread, this is not a left wing view. It’s very low level to keep insisting it is. As is suggesting that we ignore the lessons we learned from the last time we took a remarkably similar...
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    Iran

    Quite. And if it were a Labour government who did it again... politically disastrous, and Starmer will know that.
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    Iran

    Completely hypothetical - the consequences of not going to war could also be absolutely no change to our way of life at all, so it's not remotely an argument in favour of it. The idea that someone is going to be nuked by Iran if we don't immediately intervene is just laughably unbelievable - I'm...
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    Iran

    That's hard to do when the train keeps changing track! I claimed the government hasn't made their decision on whether to involve ourselves in this war based on 'pandering to Muslims'. The same way our position on Israel/Gaza clearly wasn't influenced by 'pandering to Muslims'. I appreciate...
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    Iran

    So is opposition to the war about Trump or about politicians clinging to power? And are you talking about the public or politicians? Because you seem to be conflating all of the above. All politicians are 'desperately clinging to power' - that's the nature of the beast. Pretending that's a...
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    Iran

    The polling on support for this 'war' doesn't remotely support your theory - across our political spectrum, the majority of people don't support the war and don't want us involved (70% of voters oppose UK involvement, only 17% support it). Even anecdotally on here, there doesn't seem to be...
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    Iran

    Presumably you mean reading a post and then summarising it as something completely different, as you have here.
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    Iran

    You seem to be under some weird illusion that I'm obliged to post or comment on every attack or atrocity which takes place around the globe. I barely even post on Israeli atrocities these days. If you want to pretend you can't understand why we as a nation are more complicit in, and therefore...
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    Worst Premier League XI

    He was really good in the promotion season. Miles off a premier league player though.
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    Iran

    The connection is I want to know what we are getting in return for the enormous cost of the war on drugs and military intervention overseas. You don’t seem to care what we get in return.
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    Iran

    It’s got to do with your support of things that you don’t seem to be able to offer a benefit of. That wasn't what I implied at all - I implied regime change has never been successful, which it hasn’t.
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    Iran

    This is the 2nd time I’ve asked for a benefit of a course of action you support (the other was on the war on drugs) and both times you have broadly suggested that consequences of things you support are irrelevant and/or immeasurable. This naturally begs the question of why the feck you support...
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    Iran

    Do you think they've been successful regime changes? How have we benefitted?
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    Iran

    Despite all of the previous failures, this is the time 'regime change' will finally be successful... Forgive my scepticism.
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    Iran

    How has that been going over the last couple of decades?
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    42 Points , we are Staying UP , time to Prep for August in the Prem.

    You can get 200/1 on us to go down.
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    Crystal Palace vs. Larnac match thread

    Shocking really. I thought our finishing was the main issue again yesterday - I understand the frustration with the performance, but I still thought we should have won by at least a goal or two; Mitchell, Guessand and Richards all missed sitters, as well as a load of half chances and wasted...
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    News & Politics ........ random improvised discussions

    I think both Trump and Farage have survived a plethora of scandals which would have buried any 'ordinary' politician twenty times over.
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    News & Politics ........ random improvised discussions

    You are probably correct that the debate is more around the extent of human influence on the climate, but I think when people try to present this as effectively nil, or present that human action makes negligible difference (I'm thinking when people start talking about ice age cycles and natural...

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