US Politics

[Teddy Eagle]

The disabled already receive exemptions. Too many in my opinion. Everybody capable of watching TV or using a computer all day can work. Not humping bricks up ladders but answering phones, giving advice, providing company or transferring data. People with experience can supervise and train. AI is already doing useful work but it has limits. It cannot replace the touch of human contact or provide company.

I was a manager in my thirties. I had a team I led and supervised. I was successful but I was a much better manager in my 60s and streets better now, in my 80s, because of experience and the wisdom of age. I draw pensions but I have never fully retired. The work I do now is unpaid and voluntary but it still contributes.

Good for you; an example to us all. Anyone capable of watching television all day can work? Four year olds can do that - presumably they can skip nursery school and make a proper contribution to society.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Importing foreign labour is a ponzi scheme....it's been said so many times it irritates me. Imports get old too and I don't know if you hadn't noticed genius but you are living on an island that is smaller than the state of Nevada.....Hell, Texas is three times larger than Britain's landmass.

It's always been automation or bust, for aging western nations. All people like you have supported is the import of future conflict, some of which you see now and your politics is responsible for those inevitable tensions and unfortunate clashes to come.



You can think it all you like, it's not going to happen on any significant scale.

It will, because ultimately there will be no other choice for many.

The retirement age men and women working the tills and collecting trolleys at supermarkets are the vanguard. Do you think they do that for fun or because they need to?

Delaying retirement will become usual and, in time, the state pension age will advance too. There will be no alternative.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It will, because ultimately there will be no other choice for many.

The retirement age men and women working the tills and collecting trolleys at supermarkets are the vanguard. Do you think they do that for fun or because they need to?

Delaying retirement will become usual and, in time, the state pension age will advance too. There will be no alternative.

Aren't they being replaced by automated check outs? An alternative is to stop importing workers who will in future put extra demand on the pension system.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Back to US politics. I watched this video of Professor Jeffrey Sachs talking about Trump’s understanding of economics again this evening. It’s both amusing and damning. It’s also really concerning because the truths he lays out are pretty irrefutable.

Just ignore the ads etc!

This guy is about to host Putin and hand him a diplomatic victory in return for nothing, just because of his vanity. Yesterday he said he didn’t trust Zelensky because he was the one who started the war. Putin is playing him like the dumbest fish that ever swam.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Aren't they being replaced by automated check outs? An alternative is to stop importing workers who will in future put extra demand on the pension system.

Some are and it will grow of course, but it’s not going to be enough. Get this right and we should be able to reduce the need for immigration. Some sectors more than others with healthcare being the obvious exception. Our need for doctors and nurses is only going to increase and they are jobs the elderly cannot do.

 

[georgenorman]

The disabled already receive exemptions. Too many in my opinion. Everybody capable of watching TV or using a computer all day can work. Not humping bricks up ladders but answering phones, giving advice, providing company or transferring data. People with experience can supervise and train. AI is already doing useful work but it has limits. It cannot replace the touch of human contact or provide company.

I was a manager in my thirties. I had a team I led and supervised. I was successful but I was a much better manager in my 60s and streets better now, in my 80s, because of experience and the wisdom of age. I draw pensions but I have never fully retired. The work I do now is unpaid and voluntary but it still contributes.

Have they erected a statue of you in Truro yet, in recognition of your contribution to the state of the country?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Good for you; an example to us all. Anyone capable of watching television all day can work? Four year olds can do that - presumably they can skip nursery school and make a proper contribution to society.

When were four year olds retired?

That, after all, being the subject under discussion.

Perhaps instead of trying to make diversionary snide comments you might address the actual issue?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

When were four year olds retired?

That, after all, being the subject under discussion.

Perhaps instead of trying to make diversionary snide comments you might address the actual issue?

Working until you're 75 is such a bonkers idea that it doesn't deserve anything else.

 

[chris123]

It will, because ultimately there will be no other choice for many.

The retirement age men and women working the tills and collecting trolleys at supermarkets are the vanguard. Do you think they do that for fun or because they need to?

Delaying retirement will become usual and, in time, the state pension age will advance too. There will be no alternative.

I know one who does it for 30% of shop own products and 10% off most other stuff

 

[Stirlingsays]

It will, because ultimately there will be no other choice for many.

The retirement age men and women working the tills and collecting trolleys at supermarkets are the vanguard. Do you think they do that for fun or because they need to?

Delaying retirement will become usual and, in time, the state pension age will advance too. There will be no alternative.

Dude you're way out of date.

Automation has started to and is going to take a lot more jobs both skilled and non skilled and here's you thinking we need foreign labour when all you're doing is importing trouble and violence.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Back to US politics. I watched this video of Professor Jeffrey Sachs talking about Trump’s understanding of economics again this evening. It’s both amusing and damning. It’s also really concerning because the truths he lays out are pretty irrefutable.

Just ignore the ads etc!

This guy is about to host Putin and hand him a diplomatic victory in return for nothing, just because of his vanity. Yesterday he said he didn’t trust Zelensky because he was the one who started the war. Putin is playing him like the dumbest fish that ever swam.

I have time for Jeremy Sachs and I'd agree with him on a significant portion of his economics criticisms.....though I'd also agree with some of Trump's economic protectionism, which is necessary in some regards.....and it's practiced all over the world.

How Trump's measures actually works out though, in terms of improving America's economy (via bullying means or not) we will have to wait and see.

While you highlight Sachs's criticisms of Trump I suspect you'd prefer to ignore or disagree with some of his other criticism on the Ukraine war and some of your woke attitudes. But nevertheless focusing upon the economics I think it's fair enough to point out Trump's errors......or rather they aren't errors but they are forcing trading countries to pay for America's own generational economic mistakes via bullying.....He mentions the tax code and wealth class manipulation and that's all true.

Where I'd strongly agree with Trump is with his bullying of large American tech companies and indeed any large company that wants to trade in American with the insistence that they invest jobs into America and manufacture what they can there. With that he's safeguarding both economically and with national security. The US won't compete with China and by proxy the west won't compete if top minds aren't working in America's nor Europe's and in our case Britain's interests.

 

[steeleye20]

US accuses UK of 'significant human rights issues' and restricting free speech​

Sir Keir Starmer has previously defended the UK's record on free speech after concerns were raised by US vice president JD Vance.

Right, although probably for the wrong reasons.

The UK is rapidly becoming a surveillance state with it's media appearing to project the state view only, facial recognition units, watched everywhere, arresting people with placards etc.etc.

Stasi Starmer and the met remind one of the DDR.

I didnt want a vpn particularly but it's a must have.

😎

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Working until you're 75 is such a bonkers idea that it doesn't deserve anything else.

You might think so and depending on how old you are may never witness it, but it will become normal. Alongside living to 100.

 

[Stirlingsays]

US accuses UK of 'significant human rights issues' and restricting free speech​

Sir Keir Starmer has previously defended the UK's record on free speech after concerns were raised by US vice president JD Vance.

Right, although probably for the wrong reasons.

The UK is rapidly becoming a surveillance state with it's media appearing to project the state view only, facial recognition units, watched everywhere, arresting people with placards etc.etc.

Stasi Starmer and the met remind one of the DDR.

I didnt want a vpn particularly but it's a must have.

😎

Fully agree, people must be able to criticise the state whether it's from the left or right.

The elites are using technology never previously available to become a security and surveillance state that protects its interests and treats the rest of us like children who must be controlled.....from our opinions and behavaiour to our bank accounts......Blair's digital ID being that start.

None of these issues will impact the wealth class.

 

[chris123]

I have time for Jeremy Sachs and I'd agree with him on a significant portion of his economics criticisms.....though I'd also agree with some of Trump's economic protectionism, which is necessary in some regards.....and it's practiced all over the world.

How Trump's measures actually works out though, in terms of improving America's economy (via bullying means or not) we will have to wait and see.

While you highlight Sachs's criticisms of Trump I suspect you'd prefer to ignore or disagree with some of his other criticism on the Ukraine war and some of your woke attitudes. But nevertheless focusing upon the economics I think it's fair enough to point out Trump's errors......or rather they aren't errors but they are forcing trading countries to pay for America's own generational economic mistakes via bullying.....He mentions the tax code and wealth class manipulation and that's all true.

Where I'd strongly agree with Trump is with his bullying of large American tech companies and indeed any large company that wants to trade in American with the insistence that they invest jobs into America and manufacture what they can there. With that he's safeguarding both economically and with national security. The US won't compete with China and by proxy the west won't compete if top minds aren't working in America's nor Europe's and in our case Britain's interests.

Your end bit isn't how supply chains work though

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

I have time for Jeremy Sachs and I'd agree with him on a significant portion of his economics criticisms.....though I'd also agree with some of his economic protectionism, which is necessary in some regards.....and it's practiced all over the world.

How Trump's measures actually works out though, in terms of improving America's economy (via immoral means not not) we will have to wait and see.

While you highlight Sachs's criticisms of Trump I suspect you'd prefer to ignore or disagree with some of his other criticism on the Ukraine war and some of your woke attitudes. But nevertheless focusing upon the economics I think it's fair enough to point out Trump's errors......not rather they aren't errors they are forcing trading countries to pay for America's own generational economic mistakes via bullying.....He mentions the tax code and wealth class manipulation and that's all true.

Where I'd strongly agree with Trump is with his bullying of large American tech companies and indeed any large company that wants to trade in American with the insistence that they invest jobs into America and manufacture what they can there. With that he's safeguarding both economically and with national security. The US won't compete with China and by proxy the west won't compete if top minds aren't working in America's interests.

He doesn’t just criticise Trump. He ridicules him as having no understanding of economics at all and highlights the damage being done to everyone, Americans included alongside how his mega rich backers are getting their paybacks. It’s indicative of an empire on the brink of collapse. Which ought to concern us all.

Forcing businesses to produce in their home country is a simplistic response to a much bigger issue. The world just doesn’t work that way now and no amount of barrier building and coercion will ultimately change that.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Fully agree, people must be able to criticise the state whether it's from the left or right.

The elites are using technology never previously available to become a security and surveillance state that protects its interests and treats the rest of us like children who must be controlled.....from our opinions and behavaiour to our bank accounts......Blair's digital ID being that start.

None of these issues will impact the wealth class.

What on earth is wrong with a digital ID?

We all carry digital IDs of one kind or another these days. The growth of nfc technology is exponential and spreading into every corner of our lives. The data already exists to be harvested by malign interests. We just need to be able to trust the security that stops them. Which I do.

A digital ID is no more than a convenient tool for us to use. No one who is decent and law abiding need fear it and if they assist in stopping criminals what’s not to like?

Only those with things to hide fear them.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You might think so and depending on how old you are may never witness it, but it will become normal. Alongside living to 100.

I do think so. Firstly because companies don't want to employ people in their seventies who would in any case be limiting the job opportunities for younger people and secondly because it's penalising those who possibly can't afford, because of housing or child raising costs, or don't have private company pension schemes.
There are other aspects to this which need addressing other than flogging working people into an early grave.
This is from the BBC.

However, unemployed people represent only a small part of the nearly 11 million working-age people who don't have a paid job.
About 9.4 million of them are not called "unemployed". That is because they are not actively looking for work, or available to start a job.
Instead people in this group are called "economically inactive".
But 1.6 million of that group - in addition to the unemployed - do say they want a job.
The number of vacancies is currently just 0.8 million - that has been falling consistently for the past two years, with a slight uptick in the latest figures.

 

[Common Sense Club]

What on earth is wrong with a digital ID?

We all carry digital IDs of one kind or another these days. The growth of nfc technology is exponential and spreading into every corner of our lives. The data already exists to be harvested by malign interests. We just need to be able to trust the security that stops them. Which I do.

A digital ID is no more than a convenient tool for us to use. No one who is decent and law abiding need fear it and if they assist in stopping criminals what’s not to like?

Only those with things to hide fear them.

Yes, if only those migrants crossing the Channel could produce their digital ID when they landed would make our task so much easier…

 

[Badger11]

Yes, if only those migrants crossing the Channel could produce their digital ID when they landed would make our task so much easier…

Exactly digital id will be used to track the legal not the illegal and or criminals. I have no problem with id's as long as it is mandatory to carry one. If I am stopped by the police now I can prove my id very quickly so it doesn't help them. The people they have the problem with don't and won't carry id so you have to make it an offence not to carry id.

Instead it will be used to track us not the people they should be focusing on.