Tommy Robinson

Not looking forward to the Islamophobia Bill being passed.
It's a made up word which is meaningless.

The government wants to increase control over freedoms as their policies encourage society to collapse.

It can't get much more dystopian.
 
It might though.

Our society as we know it will collapse. Eroded from the inside by foreign criminals and zealots.
Our governments are becoming more incompetent and will ultimately lose control as law and order fails.

We will see troops on the streets and a breakdown of energy food and water supplies.

Glad I'll be dead.

Is that bad enough for you?
 
The West does not stand for religious nonsense.
Secularism is not 'rot'. It is the reason why you and I can speak freely as we are.

The last thing Europe needs is more religion. What it needs is wisdom and morality from better leaders. We need to replace antiquated ideas about deities with real world societal cohesion.

Prayers and mumbo jumbo won't fix anything. Man made God and man made morals. Men now need to step up and lead by example.

Lets agree to disagree. Because all I see is a supposedly already 'secular' Western Europe bending over backwards to facilitate mass migration, both legal and non-legal, of highly religiously moviated non-Christians. To the point of championing them, covering up their crimes and a host of other actions which I am sure we can agree on.

The West was built on the basis of Christianity as its guiding force. And it is the only thing that will save it now. Secularism is the cancer in our society. And it is going to vanish. Only question is do you want the traditional Christian ethos to dominate once more or alien Eastern belief? A simple dicotomy. You do not have to go Church, you do not even have to believe. But you need to champion it as the basis for how our civilisation should be going forward. Or else watch it replaced by Islam.
 
Lets agree to disagree. Because all I see is a supposedly already 'secular' Western Europe bending over backwards to facilitate mass migration, both legal and non-legal, of highly religiously moviated non-Christians. To the point of championing them, covering up their crimes and a host of other actions which I am sure we can agree on.

The West was built on the basis of Christianity as its guiding force. And it is the only thing that will save it now. Secularism is the cancer in our society. And it is going to vanish. Only question is do you want the traditional Christian ethos to dominate once more or alien Eastern belief? A simple dicotomy. You do not have to go Church, you do not even have to believe. But you need to champion it as the basis for how our civilisation should be going forward. Or else watch it replaced by Islam.
Fair enough.

All you describe has nothing to do with religion. The ills of this country are about poor decision making by low grade leaders.
The influx of religious zealots is a whole problem in itself.

The West was built on industry. Religion has existed as long as people. We simply traded one religion for another, with the strongest countries imposing their religion on others either by political pressure or invasion.
The best thing that ever happened to England was unchaining itself from Rome.

Morality was filtered through religion, but morality is a human trait. It is not divine or magical and certainly not passed down by God, That is just mumbo jumbo.

People need guidance, and that guidance must come from the state. A civilised society relies on adherence to a code of mutual interest and respect. I fail to see where any of that requires God worship or any other religious dogma.

Cultural Christianity? Yes. God? No thanks.

Other invading religions do not need to be countered by a different religion. They need to adhere to the law and existing cultural norms. This must be enforced by our leaders. Sadly, our leaders are more interested in votes and career.

That is where the problem lies. Low quality leaders.
 
People need guidance, and that guidance must come from the state. A civilised society relies on adherence to a code of mutual interest and respect. I fail to see where any of that requires God worship or any other religious dogma.

It needs God, and specifically a Christian one, because without it then it lacks all moral direction.

'Mutual interest and respect' are the rallying calls of the Left when they promote the eradication of Western Culture. I want a society that only has the interest of its native population at heart and zero respect for alien cultures that want nothing else other than to replace it.

To give Islamists their due, they make no bones about what they want or believe in. They proclaim they want the entire world to be Islamic and that is what drives them. My issue is with people who do not, or cannot, actually believe them.

The Left who champion Islam are doing so on the back of their loathing of Christianity. Of our engrained civilisational traditions. And the same people promote full-term abortions and so on. The same people who actively sought to facilitate the mass rape of white girls by Islamic organised crime groups. They are literal evil.

I make no apologies for stating what we are facing in terms of the current struggle because it is literally light v dark, good v evil.

People will have to eventually make a choice. A Christian Europe or an Islamic one. There is no middle ground because it is the middle ground that has actively promoted this replacement.
 
It needs God, and specifically a Christian one, because without it then it lacks all moral direction.

'Mutual interest and respect' are the rallying calls of the Left when they promote the eradication of Western Culture. I want a society that only has the interest of its native population at heart and zero respect for alien cultures that want nothing else other than to replace it.

To give Islamists their due, they make no bones about what they want or believe in. They proclaim they want the entire world to be Islamic and that is what drives them. My issue is with people who do not, or cannot, actually believe them.

The Left who champion Islam are doing so on the back of their loathing of Christianity. Of our engrained civilisational traditions. And the same people promote full-term abortions and so on. The same people who actively sought to facilitate the mass rape of white girls by Islamic organised crime groups. They are literal evil.

I make no apologies for stating what we are facing in terms of the current struggle because it is literally light v dark, good v evil.

People will have to eventually make a choice. A Christian Europe or an Islamic one. There is no middle ground because it is the middle ground that has actively promoted this replacement.
To me, your words are totally illogical. Moral direction has nothing to do with a god.
Worship is merely a method of encouraging adherence. It is part of the process of indoctrination.
God does not exist.

There is no good or evil. There is only Man and Man's folly.

The left might well pay lip service to a better society, but we need individuals who genuinely want to make one.
There are limits to how perfect a human society can be because humans are imperfect, but the very least we want is to be relatively safe and have the culture we choose rather than one imposed on us by invaders. Remember that Christianity was once the religion of invaders.
The Christian church has been as pathetic as our glorious leaders in maintaining our cultural norms.
People have rejected religious Christianity because it has no place in the modern world of reason and science. What people need is less God nonsense and more practical support. They need community. They need a government who puts them first.
Right now, we need to remove all the negative elements that are damaging our country. Saying prayers ain't going to do it.
We need proper government and the right people deciding our moral landscape. Not left wing lunatics or noisy minorities.

All religion must bow to the law and be disallowed from encouraging dogma that goes against accepted modern norms.
 
There is no good or evil. There is only Man and Man's folly.

There is only Good v Evil. The only folly is to not accept that. Its a bitter pill to swallow, I accept, and our society seems intent on pretending it is not the case but ultimately, it is the only struggle.

But lets not fall out over this. We both know who the enemy is and what the enemy promotes which is our shared destruction.
 
There is only Good v Evil. The only folly is to not accept that. Its a bitter pill to swallow, I accept, and our society seems intent on pretending it is not the case but ultimately, it is the only struggle.

But lets not fall out over this. We both know who the enemy is and what the enemy promotes which is our shared destruction.
I don't know what you are taking these days Matov, but you need to cut down.

We will never fall out over anything. I know you like to view everything through a religious lens, but I share your goals...minus the God bothering.
 
I sway from side to side, but I know one thing. If we didn’t have Christianity in the first place we would probably not have developed to research science etc to better our society. What now at this juncture? I don’t know but this invasion stinks and makes me angry.
 
I sway from side to side, but I know one thing. If we didn’t have Christianity in the first place we would probably not have developed to research science etc to better our society. What now at this juncture? I don’t know but this invasion stinks and makes me angry.
Science existed before Christianity.

The Catholic Church suppressed science for decades. Now Islamists do the same.
 

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