georgenorman
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Can we leave your honeymoon out of this please.
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Wisbech Eagle
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My immediate reaction was more rats leaving the sinking ship. The trouble is they are the ones who caused the ship to sink in the first place by gnawing holes in it, with the ship they are scrambling aboard being the one whose own infrastructure is full of holes already.
Ex-Conservative Party chairman Jake Berry defects to Reform UK
Earlier this week David Jones, the ex-Conservative Welsh secretary, also announced he had joined Nigel Farage's party.www.bbc.co.uk
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georgenorman
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You remind me of King Canute sitting on his throne on the beach saying "it's just a few ripples".
The Norse spelling of Canute was Cnut and but for a minor change he is close to the Norse Canute
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silvertop
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That is very offensive and clearly in breach of the rules on here.
If you had been called that you would be demanding a card.
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I know, Canute was clearly on the coast so more likely Brighton. His relatives must be well pissed off for us to mention him here.
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Brighton?
If he went now he'd order the Pride to stop rather than the tides.
Still get his robes wet.
Nine years to wait after Labour win the next election,another tory grandee leaves for Reform,they will soon announce a wake for the dead body of the Tory party.
georgenorman
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Perhaps King James I "the wisest fool in Christendom" would be more appropriate?
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silvertop
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What is most remarkable is Corbyn's party of tobacco-stained trots has yet to form.
Tories gutted by Reform.
Labour gutted by Corbyn.
No flight to the middle.
All movement to the pole extremes.
Like I said, it's getting more and more like Weimar...
silvertop
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Ha, yes, and probably more amenable to healthy debate than one poster calling the other a c**t.
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DANGERCLOSE
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The way i see it in 4 years time, Labour and Corbyn-Sultana party will cancel each other out, Tories will more than likely fold leaving Farage as our new PM.
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I'm presuming that Corbyn and Galloway don't get along?
Will the Corbyn/ Sultana party have 640 candidates standing at the next election if so who is bank rolling them?
Good guess.
Wisbech Eagle
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If, and it’s a big if, a Corbyn led party does emerge then the best it could hope for is a handful of MPs. The Tories won’t fold either. Reform could be the largest party in a Parliament with a larger number of parties than we are used to. Could they lead a coalition? I don’t see that as very likely myself. It’s much more likely that the centre will coalesce to keep them out of government than any join them to form one.
That would enrage the right but not the majority of us.
Saw a programme about the new party. Sultana was in discussions with Corbyn about him leading it and he told her he would think about it and she and her mates, on social media, just bounced him into it. I felt sorry for him.
She sounds like a basket case so not good omens for those that would be interested in joining.
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That may happen if the exodus of the swiveled-eyed turns from a trickle to a deluge to Reform.
What remains of the Tories will be that party despised on here for its pragmatism, economic prudence and respected statesmanlike presence that has been absent for a very long time.
Too small to take on the populist, bloated behemoth that Reform will briefly become, it will coalesce with the Libs and the Greens and possibly take jumpers from the Labour right.
The problem for them as I see it is that the trend of politics will continue. The dimming of the land will descend further as people source their only information from social media or platforms that emit only their already held view.
Moreover, if Reform come to power, they have promised everything with little budget to back it up. The first thing they must do to survive will be to control the narrative. And one way will be by closing the OBR, NAO and any other body that provides empirical data to assess their "progress". The BBC and Ch4 will have their funding stopped. Meanwhile, soundbite soma will be fed to the masses through X etc.
Of course, Reform will be an irreversible catastrophe. But we will never know.