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Unlike the so called conservatives who talk a lot about being conservative but when in power just do Blairism and social liberalism (unless it's protecting banks and corporate)...Rupert Lowe has an actual petition out for Sarah Connolly that attacks this government's attitude to free speech and jailing people therein for it (unless it's their political mates).

I support those signing this petition who believe what has been done to this woman over a stupid tweet wildly disproportionate and political.

petition.parliament.uk

Petition: Review possible penalties for social media posts, including the use of prison

We call on the Government to urgently review the possible penalties for non-violent offences arising from social media posts, including the use of prison.
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Stirlingsays said:
Unlike the so called conservatives who talk a lot about being conservative but when in power just do Blairism and social liberalism (unless it's protecting banks and corporate)...Rupert Lowe has an actual petition out for Sarah Connolly that attacks this government's attitude to free speech and jailing people therein for it (unless it's their political mates).

I support those signing this petition who believe what has been done to this woman over a stupid tweet wildly disproportionate and political.

petition.parliament.uk

Petition: Review possible penalties for social media posts, including the use of prison

We call on the Government to urgently review the possible penalties for non-violent offences arising from social media posts, including the use of prison.
petition.parliament.uk petition.parliament.uk
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Any petition of this sort has zero chance of doing anything other than further winding up the already infuriated.

Connolly was jailed because of the serious consequences that could, and seemingly did, follow from promoting violence. That it was done in a social media post is besides the point.

So is that she has a family and a campaign that has painted her as an innocent, loving mother. How the prison authorities balance the competing needs of ensuring she serves her sentence with how her family is not unreasonably impacted is a matter for them. Not the judiciary. Arguing for an early release on compassionate grounds is reasonable. That she isn’t a criminal is not.

Crimes need to be both deterred and punished. All crimes. Not just those you personally don’t think ought to be crimes. Including attention seeking suspended members of Reform.
 
www.bbc.com

Labour loses control of Cheshire council after councillors resign

No party has a majority on Cheshire West and Chester Council after two councillors leave the party.
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www.standard.co.uk

London council leader steps down following a damning report by housing regulator

Councillor Kieron Williams has resigned after months of criticism of his administration at Southwark Council
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DANGERCLOSE said:
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What would that result deliver?

A coalition for sure but not of the right!

It would be a Labour, LibDem and Green coalition.

There is no way any of them would consider partnering with Reform and even if the Tories held their noses and agreed to it wouldn’t be enough.

It would split the country wide apart. The LibDems would demand a referendum on reentry into the EU and the Greens for action on climate change.

The futility of voting Reform would be laid bare and hopefully the Tories would start to regain their traditional position again, under a new moderate leader able to capture the middle ground.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
What would that result deliver?

A coalition for sure but not of the right!

It would be a Labour, LibDem and Green coalition.

There is no way any of them would consider partnering with Reform and even if the Tories held their noses and agreed to it wouldn’t be enough.

It would split the country wide apart. The LibDems would demand a referendum on reentry into the EU and the Greens for action on climate change.

The futility of voting Reform would be laid bare and hopefully the Tories would start to regain their traditional position again, under a new moderate leader able to capture the middle ground.
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Split the country wide apart. Hmg with 400 MPs has already done that !
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
What would that result deliver?

A coalition for sure but not of the right!

It would be a Labour, LibDem and Green coalition.

There is no way any of them would consider partnering with Reform and even if the Tories held their noses and agreed to it wouldn’t be enough.

It would split the country wide apart. The LibDems would demand a referendum on reentry into the EU and the Greens for action on climate change.

The futility of voting Reform would be laid bare and hopefully the Tories would start to regain their traditional position again, under a new moderate leader able to capture the middle ground.
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People are fed up with the way this country is run and they want reform, no room for middle ground.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
What would that result deliver?

A coalition for sure but not of the right!

It would be a Labour, LibDem and Green coalition.

There is no way any of them would consider partnering with Reform and even if the Tories held their noses and agreed to it wouldn’t be enough.

It would split the country wide apart. The LibDems would demand a referendum on reentry into the EU and the Greens for action on climate change.

The futility of voting Reform would be laid bare and hopefully the Tories would start to regain their traditional position again, under a new moderate leader able to capture the middle ground.
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When you have the Greens in, you can do nothing. If they don't complain about every single bit of infrastructure, then the other parties in the coalition blame them for not doing things. Then you get the carbon tax rises and the no chimneys, no boilers, no roads and you haven't even started on foreign policy yet. Price rises and tax rises. It's probably worth having them in - one term in and they're destroyed.
 
ASCPFC said:
When you have the Greens in, you can do nothing. If they don't complain about every single bit of infrastructure, then the other parties in the coalition blame them for not doing things. Then you get the carbon tax rises and the no chimneys, no boilers, no roads and you haven't even started on foreign policy yet. Price rises and tax rises. It's probably worth having them in - one term in and they're destroyed.
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They would compromise as the junior partners but would still be able to get a renewed focus on climate change measures. Which is needed.

The right would hate it. Labour and the LibDems would use them as the reason they need to do unpopular things. We win.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
What would that result deliver?

A coalition for sure but not of the right!

It would be a Labour, LibDem and Green coalition.

There is no way any of them would consider partnering with Reform and even if the Tories held their noses and agreed to it wouldn’t be enough.

It would split the country wide apart. The LibDems would demand a referendum on reentry into the EU and the Greens for action on climate change.

The futility of voting Reform would be laid bare and hopefully the Tories would start to regain their traditional position again, under a new moderate leader able to capture the middle ground.
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At this rate Reform might get the 55 seats they’re short of in the polls. Every pub in England outside of inner London would be buzzing.
 
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