France is a Kip

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The whole place seems to have been ripped apart again - another crime-wave. PSG win the title, and all hell breaks loose.

If you see television or films from 1970s France, you can get an inkling of what has been lost. And surely now lost forever ? Seems to have been a low-crime, high-trust society. Although, as you can see from the footage below, even then people did not leave their i-phones on the table at a restaurant-terrace.

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And now they're banning smoking in lots of outdoor areas. Quite a change from when the air was thick with the fumes of Gauloises and Gitanes.
 
They will never ever know the joy of opening a tin of beans and having little sausages inside
 
Their debt to GDP ratio very bad, even worse than UK.

That being said, I drove around there 3 1/2 weeks recently, not one pothole, safe towns, people en joying their lives.

You can safely use your phone in Central Paris without some ferrel troglodyte stealing it, no aggressive beggars, just nice
 
HKOwen said:
Their debt to GDP ratio very bad, even worse than UK.

That being said, I drove around there 3 1/2 weeks recently, not one pothole, safe towns, people en joying their lives.

You can safely use your phone in Central Paris without some ferrel troglodyte stealing it, no aggressive beggars, just nice
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Yes, and of course they are breaking EU rules with the size of their deficit and will have EU measures imposed on them - one of the joys of being in the undemocratic, authoritarian EU where countries are not in control of their own economies.
 
HKOwen said:
Their debt to GDP ratio very bad, even worse than UK.

That being said, I drove around there 3 1/2 weeks recently, not one pothole, safe towns, people en joying their lives.

You can safely use your phone in Central Paris without some ferrel troglodyte stealing it, no aggressive beggars, just nice
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Their unemployment payments are insane. Last I heard they match salaries. 5 star 3 course school dinners. Large maternity and paternity pay. It’s all great, but somehow it has to be paid for.
 
georgenorman said:
Yes, and of course they are breaking EU rules with the size of their deficit and will have EU measures imposed on them - one of the joys of being in the undemocratic, authoritarian EU where countries are not in control of their own economies.
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I voted to stay in at 1974 referendum and out when it was becoming too federal. Not sure why anyone would want to join now
 
Teddy Eagle said:
And now they're banning smoking in lots of outdoor areas. Quite a change from when the air was thick with the fumes of Gauloises and Gitanes.
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burning cigarettes, burning Churches, burning Cars...........the only thing they seem to refuse to burn is Steak.......eaten bloody and cold. yuk.
 
Nothing new here - as it has always been. France has a long history of civil unrest, strikes and revolution driven by dissatisfaction with authority. I recall the late 60’s protests in France (started by students) that were close to a revolution and had de Gaulle flee to Germany for a while. More recently “les gilets jaune” protests were widespread.

Of course we’ve had our own, such as the miner’s strike, poll tax riots and 2011 riots.
 
Paris is not France of course as London is not England.

My recent trip to Paris makes me feel the problematic parts are more concentrated then in London where they are more widely distributed around the city.
 
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