The bbc, again.

[Wisbech Eagle]

Trump commutes gang leader's sentence in flurry of pardons

Larry Hoover founded the Gangster Disciples, one of the most notorious US street gangs.

www.bbc.com

This is just a brilliant article in so many ways. It goes with some agendas but clearly not others. The BBC do not know how to think anymore.

Biden issues pre-emptive pardons for siblings, Fauci and 6 Jan riot committee

The outgoing president says the action will prevent "unjustified... politically motivated prosecutions".

www.bbc.com

Biden pardoned over 4000 people. But guess the tone of the BBC article.

They couldn't make it any easier to spot the agenda here, yet, they've run roughshod over others. This is the finest comedy since Monty Python.

It’s not the numbers! It’s the type of people! Trump has pardoned 1600 of those convicted as a consequence of the Capital insurrection. And gang leaders!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Gerry Adams - certainly a man to be trusted and never a grifter.
Does anyone believe he was not connected to political violence/ and the IRA? You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in Ireland who believes a word he says.
The funniest part about him is, if he didn't keep on popping up, Sinn Fein would have some chance of winning an election. Whilst he can never seem to let go of the limelight, they have no chance. You would think he would be more politically savvy but he clearly prefers blind opposition to any actual power. The ultimate contrarian. He thinks he's Che Guevara - everyone else thinks he's a c***

So are you suggesting the BBC ought to have won the case?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

It’s not the numbers! It’s the type of people! Trump has pardoned 1600 of those convicted as a consequence of the Capital insurrection. And gang leaders!

A pardon for a 74 year old who's been in prison since 1973 and is still facing a further 200 year sentence. He'd better behave himself or he'll be quite old when he gets out.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

So are you suggesting the BBC ought to have won the case?

Or that the BBC should have made sure of their facts before costing the tax payer a load of money. They were wrong in their allegations and we know that because a court has decided and they had all the facts available to them.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Or that the BBC should have made sure of their facts before costing the tax payer a load of money. They were wrong in their allegations and we know that because a court has decided and they had all the facts available to them.

Surely the case revolved on the BBC’s refusal to reveal its source? Which when dealing with the IRA is perfectly reasonable. Who would be prepared to give information to any journalist in such circumstances unless they knew their identity would be protected.

So the court did not have all the facts before them!

The BBC must have been sure themselves that the informant was telling the truth or they would not have published. Whether they should have done without conclusive corroborating evidence is another question.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

A pardon for a 74 year old who's been in prison since 1973 and is still facing a further 200 year sentence. He'd better behave himself or he'll be quite old when he gets out.

You don’t get such a sentence for nothing. Sometimes, especially in the USA, life means life.

Most of the Capital mob were much younger.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You don’t get such a sentence for nothing. Sometimes, especially in the USA, life means life.

Most of the Capital mob were much younger.

Not saying he didn't do anything - just that this "pardon" is largely meaningless.

 

[HKOwen]

Incompetent BBC giving our money away, the program producers and editorial staff should reimburse

 

[ASCPFC]

It’s not the numbers! It’s the type of people! Trump has pardoned 1600 of those convicted as a consequence of the Capital insurrection. And gang leaders!

So you think that Biden's pardons and Trump's pardons are reported in an impartial manner by the BBC then? You have the two articles here.

 

[ASCPFC]

So are you suggesting the BBC ought to have won the case?

I think the case should not have been heard in the first place. It should have been struck out as vexatious and can be described at best as opportunistic. A waste of court time and public money.
Should have just been told to f*** off and take his case and bury it somewhere. Then we could all guess where it is. In writing too.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Not saying he didn't do anything - just that this "pardon" is largely meaningless.

Not to the MAGA mob!

It sends them a message. A totally wrong message, in my opinion.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

So you think that Biden's pardons and Trump's pardons are reported in an impartial manner by the BBC then? You have the two articles here.

I do.

Anyone who pardons those involved in the kind of activities on Jan 6th deserves nothing but total condemnation. The more so when he was the one who encouraged them and the primary purpose in issuing them appears to be in an effort to whitewash his name.

Any objective report on that is going to be scathing. The BBC have been more than impartial as they have reported Trump’s attempts at justification too.

Biden’s pardons were nothing in comparison. The only questionable ones were to his family members but they, alongside many of the others, were issued preemptively because of the vindictive nature of Trump and the probability he would seek retribution against all who opposed him. A fear that’s been well justified since.

 

[Spindle]

Even though the law was recently made clear it hasn't stopped the BBC making a whiny story about a poor trans footballer who has played for a team that got promoted (by fielding men)

FA's ban on transgender women playing in women's football begins

The FA's ban on transgender women playing women's football in England comes into effect on Sunday - BBC Sport hears a range of views.

www.bbc.co.uk

What about the law?
What about the thousands of actual girls playing who lost at the expense of having to play against boys?

 

[PalazioVecchio]

What about the law?
What about the thousands of actual girls playing who lost at the expense of having to play against boys?

would some lefty commentators encourage such girls to take a few hormones, grow a beard, and play in the men's league ? nothing would surprise me anymore.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I do.

Anyone who pardons those involved in the kind of activities on Jan 6th deserves nothing but total condemnation. The more so when he was the one who encouraged them and the primary purpose in issuing them appears to be in an effort to whitewash his name.

Any objective report on that is going to be scathing. The BBC have been more than impartial as they have reported Trump’s attempts at justification too.

Biden’s pardons were nothing in comparison. The only questionable ones were to his family members but they, alongside many of the others, were issued preemptively because of the vindictive nature of Trump and the probability he would seek retribution against all who opposed him. A fear that’s been well justified since.

Where was this dread fear of malicious retribution while Biden was making his repeated promises that he wouldn't pardon his son?
"No one is above the law" was his claim until it was his own family up on tax and gun charges.

 

[ASCPFC]

I do.

Anyone who pardons those involved in the kind of activities on Jan 6th deserves nothing but total condemnation. The more so when he was the one who encouraged them and the primary purpose in issuing them appears to be in an effort to whitewash his name.

Any objective report on that is going to be scathing. The BBC have been more than impartial as they have reported Trump’s attempts at justification too.

Biden’s pardons were nothing in comparison. The only questionable ones were to his family members but they, alongside many of the others, were issued preemptively because of the vindictive nature of Trump and the probability he would seek retribution against all who opposed him. A fear that’s been well justified since.

They immediately vilified Trump for pardoning a black man for one of his crimes. That had comedy value didn't it? How would the very same be reported if Biden had done it? Oh, I don't need to conjecture - I can read it. Oh, one was good, fine and understandable. The other looney and deranged. I'm sure all 4700 of Biden's pardons except for his family are above board. It's not like pre emotive pardons give carte blanche is it.
Ever noticed there are general tones to articles? Perhaps not.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Where was this dread fear of malicious retribution while Biden was making his repeated promises that he wouldn't pardon his son?
"No one is above the law" was his claim until it was his own family up on tax and gun charges.

You doubtless recall that I criticised Biden’s decision to pardon his son, even if it was understandable given the character of his successor.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

They immediately vilified Trump for pardoning a black man for one of his crimes. That had comedy value didn't it? How would the very same be reported if Biden had done it? Oh, I don't need to conjecture - I can read it. Oh, one was good, fine and understandable. The other looney and deranged. I'm sure all 4700 of Biden's pardons except for his family are above board. It's not like pre emotive pardons give carte blanche is it.
Ever noticed there are general tones to articles? Perhaps not.

Where on earth do you get your statistics from?

Biden pardoned 80 people. He also granted clemency to 2165, the vast majority for possession of marijuana. Trump has, so far, pardoned around 1700, 1500 of whom were involved in the Capitol insurrection.

Giving preemptive pardons to the likes of Fauci is very unusual. That though is not because Biden is unusual. It’s solely because his successor is.

Ever noticed how deranged and vindictive that person is? Reporting that is the duty of every public broadcaster in a free society. Only those like Trump believe he ought to be free of criticism.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

You doubtless recall that I criticised Biden’s decision to pardon his son, even if it was understandable given the character of his successor.

Not the point. Trump's character wasn't an issue for Biden for the many months he was maintaining he wouldn't pardon his son before he did just that.

 

[ASCPFC]

Where on earth do you get your statistics from?

Biden pardoned 80 people. He also granted clemency to 2165, the vast majority for possession of marijuana. Trump has, so far, pardoned around 1700, 1500 of whom were involved in the Capitol insurrection.

Giving preemptive pardons to the likes of Fauci is very unusual. That though is not because Biden is unusual. It’s solely because his successor is.

Ever noticed how deranged and vindictive that person is? Reporting that is the duty of every public broadcaster in a free society. Only those like Trump believe he ought to be free of criticism.

Your figures are wildly off.

How do Donald Trump’s pardons compare with other US presidents?

Just hours into his second term, Trump pardons about 1,500 people charged in the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack.

www.aljazeera.com

Clemency Statistics

www.justice.gov

Biden granted more acts of clemency than any prior president

Former President Joe Biden granted 4,245 acts of clemency during his four-year tenure in the White House, more than any previous president on record.

www.pewresearch.org