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Textor buying Everton? / Bids to buy Palace outright

Why would it effect us?
Because there are restrictions on clubs with the same owner entering the same competition.

This article from last year gives details of the rules.


Clubs do seem to find workarounds, but I’m not an expert on this.
 
I'd imagine it's something about ownership and not being allowed to have two teams in the same competition. Became a talking point when Forest and Olympiakos looked likely to qualify for champions League.

I don't know enough about the rules i.e percentages of shares etc, to pass judgement though. My only input would be, don't let our Euro dream get fu*ked up!
Worst case scenario, I think either us or them would be relegated to the conference league. I have no idea how this is decided though, if this is the case?!
 
The French qualifiers for the Europa League are Lille, who finished 5th, and the French Cup winners.

The French Cup Final on 24th May is between PSG and Reims.

If PSG win, France’s 2nd Europa League spot will go to the 6th place team, who are John Textor’s Olympique Lyonaise. Could this snatch our hard-won European dream away from us?

Has anybody looked at this?

Needless to say, I shall be supporting Reims on Saturday.
I asked Claude, the gist of it is we should take priority. Sorry it is long but it is a bit complicated
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There would indeed be a multi-club ownership issue that could prevent both clubs from competing in the Europa League.


UEFA has strict regulations about multi-club ownership to maintain the integrity of their competitions. Under their current rules, clubs with the same owner (or where one owner has significant influence over another club) cannot participate in the same UEFA competition simultaneously.


The key threshold is typically around 30% ownership or having "decisive influence" over a club. However, even a minority stake can trigger these rules if it's deemed to give the owner significant control or influence over sporting decisions.


In this scenario, UEFA would likely require one of several solutions:


Structural separation - The owner would need to reduce their stake below the threshold of influence in one of the clubs, often involving selling shares to independent parties or placing them in a blind trust.


Sporting exclusion - If structural changes aren't made by UEFA's deadline (usually several months before the competition), the club that qualified later or has the lower coefficient ranking would be excluded from the competition.


Administrative arrangements - In some cases, very specific governance structures might be acceptable to UEFA, but these are rare and require extensive documentation.


Recent examples include the complications faced by clubs in the Red Bull network and Manchester City/Girona situations, where ownership structures had to be modified to comply with UEFA regulations.


The clubs would need to address this well before the competition begins, as UEFA typically requires compliance documentation months in advance.
I'll search for the current UEFA coefficients for Crystal Palace and Reims to give you accurate information.


Now let me search for Reims' UEFA coefficient:


Based on my search results, I can provide you with the UEFA coefficients for both clubs:


Crystal Palace: 17.146
Crystal Palace has a UEFA coefficient of 17.146, which puts them at the same level as most other English clubs that haven't had recent European experience.


Stade de Reims: 11.033
Stade de Reims has a UEFA coefficient of 11.033, placing them among the lower-tier French clubs in terms of European experience.


So Palace has a notably higher coefficient than Reims (17.146 vs 11.033). This means that if there were a multi-ownership issue requiring one club to be excluded from the Europa League, UEFA would likely exclude Reims as the club with the lower coefficient.


Interestingly, the search results show that Crystal Palace won their first ever major trophy by beating Manchester City 1-0 in the 2025 FA Cup final, which has qualified them for their first-ever Europa League campaign. Meanwhile, Reims reached the French Cup final but would play Paris Saint-Germain on May 24 - so presumably they qualified for the Europa League through their domestic league position in Ligue 1.


The coefficient difference would definitely favor Palace retaining their spot if ownership complications arose."
 
Because there are restrictions on clubs with the same owner entering the same competition.

This article from last year gives details of the rules.


Clubs do seem to find workarounds, but I’m not an expert on this.
When you look at the rules, there are clearly problems with multi club ownership - unless they're in totally different regions.
 
The issue is not Palace v Reims, it’s Palace v Lyon.

Lyon’s coefficient is 43.750

Aren't they in the Europa Conference League - or does that make no difference?


34 games played, no more fixtures, it's done isn't it?
 
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The issue is what happens if PSG do the double.

If that happens, the place for the French Cup Winners goes to the next team down in the table (Lyon), with Lyon’s Conference League spot being passed down to Strasbourg
 
The issue is what happens if PSG do the double.

If that happens, the place for the French Cup Winners goes to the next team down in the table (Lyon), with Lyon’s Conference League spot being passed down to Strasbourg
Let's just hope Lyon haven't sorted out their finances, and are relegated!
 
I've just had a terrible thought.

What if we are relegated to the Conference League, and our Europa League spot is given to another PL team, potentially Brighton? 😭
 
Marinakis owner of Forest had to 'dilute' his holding in them because one of his other clubs, Olympiakos would also be in the CL (if Forest qualify)
So, Textor would either 'dilute' his holdings in Palace or Lyon if Lyon also end up in the EL.
 
I asked Claude, the gist of it is we should take priority. Sorry it is long but it is a bit complicated
"
There would indeed be a multi-club ownership issue that could prevent both clubs from competing in the Europa League.


UEFA has strict regulations about multi-club ownership to maintain the integrity of their competitions. Under their current rules, clubs with the same owner (or where one owner has significant influence over another club) cannot participate in the same UEFA competition simultaneously.


The key threshold is typically around 30% ownership or having "decisive influence" over a club. However, even a minority stake can trigger these rules if it's deemed to give the owner significant control or influence over sporting decisions.


In this scenario, UEFA would likely require one of several solutions:


Structural separation - The owner would need to reduce their stake below the threshold of influence in one of the clubs, often involving selling shares to independent parties or placing them in a blind trust.


Sporting exclusion - If structural changes aren't made by UEFA's deadline (usually several months before the competition), the club that qualified later or has the lower coefficient ranking would be excluded from the competition.


Administrative arrangements - In some cases, very specific governance structures might be acceptable to UEFA, but these are rare and require extensive documentation.


Recent examples include the complications faced by clubs in the Red Bull network and Manchester City/Girona situations, where ownership structures had to be modified to comply with UEFA regulations.


The clubs would need to address this well before the competition begins, as UEFA typically requires compliance documentation months in advance.
I'll search for the current UEFA coefficients for Crystal Palace and Reims to give you accurate information.


Now let me search for Reims' UEFA coefficient:


Based on my search results, I can provide you with the UEFA coefficients for both clubs:


Crystal Palace: 17.146
Crystal Palace has a UEFA coefficient of 17.146, which puts them at the same level as most other English clubs that haven't had recent European experience.


Stade de Reims: 11.033
Stade de Reims has a UEFA coefficient of 11.033, placing them among the lower-tier French clubs in terms of European experience.


So Palace has a notably higher coefficient than Reims (17.146 vs 11.033). This means that if there were a multi-ownership issue requiring one club to be excluded from the Europa League, UEFA would likely exclude Reims as the club with the lower coefficient.


Interestingly, the search results show that Crystal Palace won their first ever major trophy by beating Manchester City 1-0 in the 2025 FA Cup final, which has qualified them for their first-ever Europa League campaign. Meanwhile, Reims reached the French Cup final but would play Paris Saint-Germain on May 24 - so presumably they qualified for the Europa League through their domestic league position in Ligue 1.


The coefficient difference would definitely favor Palace retaining their spot if ownership complications arose."
What's Lyon's co-efficient? I would say it's higher than ours. They often get European football. It's Lyon that Textor owns.
 
Sporting exclusion - If structural changes aren't made by UEFA's deadline (usually several months before the competition), the club that qualified later or has the lower coefficient ranking would be excluded from the competition.

Is this relevant from that text ?

We have already qualified and we won't know until later if it's Reims or if not Lyon.

Probable straw clutching....
 
There must be more Logic to to the decision. If we qualify on merit, then if Lyon only qualify afterwards by dint of PSG doing the double and giving that place to another club, surely Lyon would be disqualified from taking it, because we are already there.

Rule change made.

Go in peace to love and serve the lord.......
 
I've just had a terrible thought.

What if we are relegated to the Conference League, and our Europa League spot is given to another PL team, potentially Brighton? 😭
We should be promoted to the Champions league on the grounds that United and Spurs are so bad
Matt Woosnam at the Athletic or another journalist should really should be making this issue more widely known and what the implications are
 
Sporting exclusion - If structural changes aren't made by UEFA's deadline (usually several months before the competition), the club that qualified later or has the lower coefficient ranking would be excluded from the competition.

Is this relevant from that text ?

We have already qualified and we won't know until later if it's Reims or if not Lyon.

Probable straw clutching....

More straw clutching is that despite his larger share holding, bizarrely perhaps, Textor doesn't have the control over the club you would expect. He has less voting rights.

Or perhaps, that conflict of interest in multi club ownership in UEFA competitions is the reason this arrangement was set up like this in the first place!

Been polishing up my rose tinted glasses
 

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