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Immigration

CPFCSaturn said:
Without getting into the merits of each, broadly their positions since getting into power have been; reduce immigration, cut public services, more austerity, crack down on the unemployed and benefit claimants, reject the trans stuff.

How can they be a left wing government?
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Starmer, while being far left in his preferred positions, is ultimately a careerist who will say anything and throw any principle under the bus if he can keep power.

It's the Blair tactic of attacking your party from the right to both quell internal dispute by intimidation and removal and fool the voters, who are majority boomers that you are on their side.

The reality is that Starmer is pro trans but once the legal decision was made he was happy to ditch the policy for votes......He knows how trans comes across because he's obsessed with his focus group data.

Cutting public services, 'austerity', a crack down on the unemployed and benefit claimants? I think that's more bluster than reality and in truth the economy forces some of those measures.....they also made massive pay deals with public workers.

Immigration.....again, mostly bluster......Reducing from a million to 700,000 is a joke and that's probably the sum of what's going to happen.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Starmer, while being far left in his preferred positions, is ultimately a careerist who will say anything and throw any principle under the bus if he can keep power.

It's the Blair tactic of attacking your party from the right to both quell internal dispute by intimidation and removal and fool the voters, who are majority boomers that you are on their side.

The reality is that Starmer is pro trans but once the legal decision was made he was happy to ditch the policy for votes......He knows how trans comes across because he's obsessed with his focus group data.

Cutting public services, 'austerity', a crack down on the unemployed and benefit claimants? I think that's more bluster than reality and in truth the economy forces some of those measures.....they also made massive pay deals with public workers.

Immigration.....again, mostly bluster......Reducing from a million to 700,000 is a joke and that's probably the sum of what's going to happen.
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Yes, he's an absolute careerist - I don't think he has beliefs or principles in the slightest, much like Boris, he will say whatever he thinks people want to hear - describing him as far-left is absurd.

You can only judge a government by what they say and do, and they have not said or done much that can be described as left-wing.
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Yes, he's an absolute careerist - I don't think he has beliefs or principles in the slightest, much like Boris, he will say whatever he thinks people want to hear - describing him as far-left is absurd.

You can only judge a government by what they say and do, and they have not said or done much that can be described as left-wing.
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Southport would say otherwise.

His tone and reaction to that damaged him, possibly permanently amongst a percent of traditional Labour voters in the north. His popularity nosedived.

Made Owen Jones types very happy though....but he was stupid to let his mask slip.
 
So now we see Starmer's strategy for immigration.

Talk like Reform, blame the Tories for the mess, and pretend to take steps to deport illegals quicker. Then, when the Tory's measures show a reduction in regular migrants, take credit for it.

Meanwhile, crime increases but the prisons are full, the country is less safe, and taxpayers bear the cost of housing illegals.

The sooner we get rid of this useless tosser the better.
 
There's clearly a split on immigration in the left of politics. They'll give the groups names soon enough. I'd like to call them realists or idealists but I don't think they'd appreciate it.
I can't pretend to particularly care what the government says, however. It's clear they're not going to deport thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands. And the figures are actually in the millions. Probably hardly any will ever leave - illegal or not.
I doubt even the silly appeals will stop. That way the government can say it's not their fault. It's the law and they have to abide by the law. Like a broken Judge Dredd.
 
The looney leftys are all for immigration and asylum seeking.....except when it comes to white south African families escaping Genocide. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
eaglesdare said:
The looney leftys are all for immigration and asylum seeking.....except when it comes to white south African families escaping Genocide. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Anything to back up this statement?
 
eaglesdare said:
Yes.... Go google "Jeremy Konyndyk" who is the president of Refugees International.
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OK I have just done this and there is absolutely nothing to back up your statement. You're going to have to try harder or admit that it's not true.
 
cryrst said:
Plenty online and my friend is South African and it is happening. Like our press it’s a closed shop for actually the truth if it affects hmg or theirs.
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He said apparently "looney lefties", being as classy and the non-aggressor as he is, are against asylum in the UK for white South African farmers, and provided absolutely no evidence to suggest this. I have asked him to provide some.
 
DanH said:
He said apparently "looney lefties", being as classy and the non-aggressor as he is, are against asylum in the UK for white South African farmers, and provided absolutely no evidence to suggest this. I have asked him to provide some.
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Surely the question should be why are they needing to go to the USA.
 
DanH said:
OK I have just done this and there is absolutely nothing to back up your statement. You're going to have to try harder or admit that it's not true.
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Step 1: type the name into Google
Step 2: click on "news"
Step 3: click on news article.
Step 4: read news article
 
ASCPFC said:
There's clearly a split on immigration in the left of politics. They'll give the groups names soon enough. I'd like to call them realists or idealists but I don't think they'd appreciate it.
I can't pretend to particularly care what the government says, however. It's clear they're not going to deport thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands. And the figures are actually in the millions. Probably hardly any will ever leave - illegal or not.
I doubt even the silly appeals will stop. That way the government can say it's not their fault. It's the law and they have to abide by the law. Like a broken Judge Dredd.
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Clearly, these idiots are either oblivious or unconcerned by the inevitable breakdown of society that illegal migration will eventually cause. It will only gain momentum if left unchecked and ultimately become unsustainable. These arseholes will probably be moving abroad when it does.
 
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