New manager poll

[Dogburger]

I can appreciate that but engaging the brain (the attacker I mean) surely you must think

"our team being ready in 5 seconds to restart, and the ref letting us do it, is far more likely to see the opponent being eaten than mucking about in the goal for a ball where there are 49 others we could use."

Maybe there should be a secondary rule that if the conceding team is not ready (and this includes ensuring the ball they made so much effort to grab hold of is not off the pitch) then the attacking team gets a corner. A bit like the rule now when a keeper holds the ball for too long.

To be honest I'm all for going back to the 1960 laws and leave it at that

 

[RubinsCube]

To be honest I'm all for going back to the 1960 laws and leave it at that

I remember as a young nipper (would have been the early 80s) being given an old - even then old - tattered book on the laws of association football. You could charge the goalkeeper if he was facing his goal and holding the ball. All totally legit - just smash the guy into the goal holding the ball and it would be a goal!

I think Craig Dawson read that book the week before Julian Speroni got nailed.

 

[radicalsteve]

All the pundits slam MU for being a poorly managed club in crisis - yet they have their replacement manager lined up within 24 hours and we are still faffing around, as always until the last minute. New manager arrives middle of next week and expected to shore up the defence before two six pointer games - what a farce!

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I remember as a young nipper (would have been the early 80s) being given an old - even then old - tattered book on the laws of association football. You could charge the goalkeeper if he was facing his goal and holding the ball. All totally legit - just smash the guy into the goal holding the ball and it would be a goal!

I think Craig Dawson read that book the week before Julian Speroni got nailed.

Happened to Man United in two cup finals running - in 1957 Ray Wood had his jaw fractured by Peter McParland then the next year Nat Lofthouse left Ray Wood unconscious and the ref awarded the goal. The Munich air crash was only three months before the 1958 final but sentiment wasn't as prevalent back then.
Different time and apparently a different attitude towards Manchester United.

 

[mtp1958]

All the pundits slam MU for being a poorly managed club in crisis - yet they have their replacement manager lined up within 24 hours and we are still faffing around, as always until the last minute. New manager arrives middle of next week and expected to shore up the defence before two six pointer games - what a farce!

Pochettino doesn't take over until the 18th so really he is not in place . So its not a farce . Just the way you wish to look at it . Also 5 of the defence is on international duty . So what defensive work can he do

 

[Badger11]

All the pundits slam MU for being a poorly managed club in crisis - yet they have their replacement manager lined up within 24 hours and we are still faffing around, as always until the last minute. New manager arrives middle of next week and expected to shore up the defence before two six pointer games - what a farce!

Moan united have plenty of money, Parish has to do a deal that the other tight wads sorry I meant shareholders approve.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Moan united have plenty of money, Parish has to do a deal that the other tight wads sorry I meant shareholders approve.

That’s right, United can just steam straight in with a high figure like they do signing average players for 60/70/80/90 million,, where as Parish has to do this thing called negotiate

 

[PatrickA]

Assuming it is Frank as manager, I don’t see him using Pino and Kamada in a front 3.
It’s not his style.

Now arguably they have been our best players this season in not a particularly strong list, and it’s not to suggest they are poor players.

I think it will could be one or the other selected, although Kamada could also be a candidate for a midfield position if that area is revamped.

Perhaps stronger physical players such as Doucoure and Guessand will come into the equation.
New manger, different ideas on players and what they bring.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

That’s right, United can just steam straight in with a high figure like they do signing average players for 60/70/80/90 million,, where as Parish has to do this thing called negotiate

Our chances of bringing in an international manager who's just signed a 4 year contract aren't that good either.

 

[doombear]

Assuming it is Frank as manager, I don’t see him using Pino and Kamada in a front 3.
It’s not his style.

Now arguably they have been our best players this season in not a particularly strong list, and it’s not to suggest they are poor players.

I think it will could be one or the other selected, although Kamada could also be a candidate for a midfield position if that area is revamped.

Perhaps stronger physical players such as Doucoure and Guessand will come into the equation.
New manger, different ideas on players and what they bring.

Frank may well start with a 3-5-2 set-up given we've been playing 3 at the back for the best part of 3 years. So an extra player in midfield. In which case, you may well be right re the midfield options. For me Wharton, Timber and Kamada/Pino would seem the 3. Up front could be JPM/JSL with Sarr/Nketiah. Pino might be one of the front 3 if Frank wants a 4-3-3 set-up (he plays RW when he plays for Spain).

In Frank's 3-5-2 set-up, I think the two wide players in the 5 will be more FBs than WBs with only one of them going forward when we are attacking.

Frank does like a bit of muscle in his team so Doucoure and Guessand may well feature more than they have so far.

 

[Painter]

Looking like Frank wont be coming here, wants his own backroom staff, not being lumbered with McCarthy and the like.

 

[samprior]

Looking like Frank wont be coming here, wants his own backroom staff, not being lumbered with McCarthy and the like.

There is only McCarthy and the goalkeeper coach. The rest left with Sage.

 

[samprior]

Everyone knew what was coming... It does make you think why on earth didn't we make a change sooner to give the new manager better preparation before a huge week.

After Brighton or Newcastle, the signs were very clear that Sage wasn't going to change things around.

 

[in-exile]

There is only McCarthy and the goalkeeper coach. The rest left with Sage.

With our defence being so bad ... what does Paddy do?

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Frank may well start with a 3-5-2 set-up given we've been playing 3 at the back for the best part of 3 years. So an extra player in midfield. In which case, you may well be right re the midfield options. For me Wharton, Timber and Kamada/Pino would seem the 3. Up front could be JPM/JSL with Sarr/Nketiah. Pino might be one of the front 3 if Frank wants a 4-3-3 set-up (he plays RW when he plays for Spain).

In Frank's 3-5-2 set-up, I think the two wide players in the 5 will be more FBs than WBs with only one of them going forward when we are attacking.

Frank does like a bit of muscle in his team so Doucoure and Guessand may well feature more than they have so far.

Too complicated, you cant switch from 3 to 4 at the back during a game, we don't have the players, 433, 451 and 442 are easy in game moves, i have serious doubts if Frank starts with a back 3

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

With our defence being so bad ... what does Paddy do?

What Sage told him to do.

 

[TheBigToePunt]

Too complicated, you cant switch from 3 to 4 at the back during a game, we don't have the players, 433, 451 and 442 are easy in game moves, i have serious doubts if Frank starts with a back 3

This is an interesting point. If internet clever clogs are to be believed, Frank is one to change formation from week to week, and perhaps during a game. My instinct, a bit like yours, is that I don't like it.

Personally I think it's far better to work properly, week in, week out, on plan A than to flip flop. By all means tweak and revise, but the idea that if it's nil nil after 60 minutes, it rests with the manager to press a different button has always felt like mistaking football for chess.

 

[PatrickA]

This is an interesting point. If internet clever clogs are to be believed, Frank is one to change formation from week to week, and perhaps during a game. My instinct, a bit like yours, is that I don't like it.

Personally I think it's far better to work properly, week in, week out, on plan A than to flip flop. By all means tweak and revise, but the idea that if it's nil nil after 60 minutes, it rests with the manager to press a different button has always felt like mistaking football for chess.

Understand the points raised, but on the other hand Roy, Glasner and Sage all got criticised for never having a plan B or tweaking formations to try and change a game..
Predictable and on occasions easy to nullify.
Whatever one thinks of Venables as a person, there's no doubt that he was an innovative coach who would work on alternative formations to surprise/react to the opposition.
It wasn't incessant changes for the sake of changes, but it allowed for flexibility if one needed to try an alternative approach in games.
I much prefer a coach who's prepared to adapt (as opposed to tinker).