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silvertop said:
Would the immunity cover the Insider trading?

Perhaps for him but not those around him who directly profited.
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It will not for insider trading, but from what I have hard, Trump himself has basically removed himself from that risk as his kids and friends have taken on that role. He has Presidential Immunity, his minions do not.

So yes, they can be charged, as long as they haven' already received the blanket pardon.

More important to the Democrats is that they can force everyone below Trump in the Administration to testify before Congress. Charging someone with a crime is very lengthy and expensive (especially if they have money and influence) so it is much easier and cost efficient to publicly embarrass them at the bi-weekly impeachment hearings that we will have starting soon.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Yep, it's kind of sad.

If he had actually been the president he was elected by the right to be then at least half the country would have been happy.

Instead he ended up being the same Bush he came in complaining about.
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Trump bears no resemblance to either Bush or their politics. They didn’t use paramilitary tactics to round up people they disliked in a xenophobic rage. Nor did they slap ill thought out tariffs on trading partners, raising the cost of living and destroying centuries of relationship building.

Now he has appointed Miller, the only one in the Trump orbit more extreme than he is, to be Chief of Staff. Trump is inviting trouble to his door, not trying to meet it halfway.

The “monuments” to his vanity won’t need to pulled down or renamed. They won’t be built. The Democrats will ensure they are surrounded in enough red tape and legal challenges to stop them for 2 years, after which they will be dropped, whoever wins in 2028.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Trump bears no resemblance to either Bush or their politics. They didn’t use paramilitary tactics to round up people they disliked in a xenophobic rage. Nor did they slap ill thought out tariffs on trading partners, raising the cost of living and destroying centuries of relationship building.

Now he has appointed Miller, the only one in the Trump orbit more extreme than he is, to be Chief of Staff. Trump is inviting trouble to his door, not trying to meet it halfway.

The “monuments” to his vanity won’t need to pulled down or renamed. They won’t be built. The Democrats will ensure they are surrounded in enough red tape and legal challenges to stop them for 2 years, after which they will be dropped, whoever wins in 2028.
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ICE has been doing the same tasks for the last two decades. Only when people decided to try to kill them did they limit knowledge of who the officers were. They still follow the same legal processes to include executing warrants issued by judges.

You mean those nations that had tariffs on US products but US did not on theirs? Those nations? That you are advocating for taking advantage of the US isn't surprising. Very much like how you were not, and many of those "partners" are still not, meeting their obligations. I'm not sure where the idea came from that it is the obligation of the US to subsidize everyone else's defense and economy but this is an area where Trump actually has the backing of most Americans.

Trump isn't inviting trouble, his pissing off the people who voted for them over the last two years did that. I imagine that the conversation between Trump and Wiles sounded very much like Michael Corleone explaining to Tom Hagen why he was out as the Consigliere
. The war is already coming, no point in not bringing out your biggest animal to lead it. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Loomer come back more into the fold as an attack dog. The next two yeas are going to be openly nasty in a way we haven't seen since the 1960s.

The Arch is the only one is serious trouble of not being built. I was saddening that the most recent update on the Arch de Trump removed the ammunition storage, sniper hides and drones launching platforms.

The Ballroom on the other hand is absolutely going to be built although it may get delayed long enough so that Trump isn't in office when it is officially completed. There has been a requirement for a ballroom for decades, the Arch de Trump on the other hand is complete vanity at this point.
 
I see that the democrats have set out their priorities for tax payer money with a series of investigations and impeachments of Trump colleagues.

While the people suffer they only care about personal revenge. It's disgusting.
 
Spindle said:
I see that the democrats have set out their priorities for tax payer money with a series of investigations and impeachments of Trump colleagues.

While the people suffer they only care about personal revenge. It's disgusting.
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This is always the result when you vote against someone, in this case Trump, as opposed to voting for someone.

The people who didn't vote didn't understand the platform of those running. US Congress is about to have two more years of wasted time as both parties try to set things up for 2028.

So I plan to enjoy the next two months of minimal politician ads and news because the run up to 2028 starts next year and the retard train is getting ready to leave the station.
 
Spindle said:
I see that the democrats have set out their priorities for tax payer money with a series of investigations and impeachments of Trump colleagues.

While the people suffer they only care about personal revenge. It's disgusting.
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Yeah what a waste of money investigating corruption. Not like the ballroom. Err why are the people suffering? Trump’s still POTUS.
 
Stansferret said:
Yeah what a waste of money investigating corruption. Not like the ballroom. Err why are the people suffering? Trump’s still POTUS.
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Yes it is a waste of money because it has nothing to do with right and wrong, it's all about revenge and a battle. It's the fact that this is THE FIRST THING they announced, their priority, don't you get it? Don't you understand that this bullshit is why MOST people are disillusioned and that ENABLES political corruption

You're part of this issue, you're a tit for tat enabler.
 
Spindle said:
Yes it is a waste of money because it has nothing to do with right and wrong, it's all about revenge and a battle. It's the fact that this is THE FIRST THING they announced, their priority, don't you get it? Don't you understand that this bullshit is why MOST people are disillusioned and that ENABLES political corruption

You're part of this issue, you're a tit for tat enabler.
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Funny that. I’d call it justice, something DT has systematically disabled to protect himself and his family from prosecution. You’re in favour of simply letting him off.
Amazing the support on here for an evil sack of s*** just because he’s right wing.
 
Stansferret said:
Funny that. I’d call it justice, something DT has systematically disabled to protect himself and his family from prosecution. You’re in favour of simply letting him off.
Amazing the support on here for an evil sack of s*** just because he’s right wing.
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Yup. Any port in a storm.

Whatever happened to the TDS slur that is part of the everyday on this site?

Someone used it the other day and when I challenged them on it they didn't reply. Yeah, that's about right; typical monocular fare.

'He may be a sack of s*** but at least he's our sack of s***' would be the refrain, I'm guessing.
 
Stansferret said:
Funny that. I’d call it justice, something DT has systematically disabled to protect himself and his family from prosecution. You’re in favour of simply letting him off.
Amazing the support on here for an evil sack of s*** just because he’s right wing.
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Did you miss the point on this? I couldn't have been more clear. TDS infection will do that to a person.....
 
Glazier#1 said:
Yup. Any port in a storm.

Whatever happened to the TDS slur that is part of the everyday on this site?

Someone used it the other day and when I challenged them on it they didn't reply. Yeah, that's about right; typical monocular fare.

'He may be a sack of s*** but at least he's our sack of s***' would be the refrain, I'm guessing.
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I think I've been pretty clear.
 
Spindle said:
Did you miss the point on this? I couldn't have been more clear. TDS infection will do that to a person.....
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Your point was way off. Like Trump didn’t move Heaven and earth trying to bring Hunter Biden down. Trump’s as vindictive as they come. Anyway most Americans think those left still supporting Trump are morons. I think they’re right.
 
Trump's crypto coin was worth $75.35 in January 2025. Today it's $1.12. I don't understand economics in general and crypto currency in particular but this doesn't seem like a good investment.
 
Stansferret said:
Your point was way off. Like Trump didn’t move Heaven and earth trying to bring Hunter Biden down. Trump’s as vindictive as they come. Anyway most Americans think those left still supporting Trump are morons. I think they’re right.
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I think it partly right.

I have some sympathy for those who felt disenfranchised to not bother turning up to vote. Suddenly, somebody pops up who has a version of charisma, who appears to have a folksy connection with them, who says what has not been dared said and who is not the "establishment" who have run things for ever.

Years pass. Support becomes entrenched and, more importantly, any voices of opposition are condemned as "anti American" "communist" and so on. Them and us.

There are, therefore, 3 binding connections (other than low intelligence) I see that still keep 1/3 of Americans supporting him.

1. To switch support means abandoning Trump. That accepts they were wrong to support him in the first place. That is a hard pill to swallow.

2. Comments criticizing him are "fake news" and they view only echo chamber sources of news (if at all).

3. His crown may have slipped, but look who will get in if we don't vote for him.
 
silvertop said:
I think it partly right.

I have some sympathy for those who felt disenfranchised to not bother turning up to vote. Suddenly, somebody pops up who has a version of charisma, who appears to have a folksy connection with them, who says what has not been dared said and who is not the "establishment" who have run things for ever.

Years pass. Support becomes entrenched and, more importantly, any voices of opposition are condemned as "anti American" "communist" and so on. Them and us.

There are, therefore, 3 binding connections (other than low intelligence) I see that still keep 1/3 of Americans supporting him.

1. To switch support means abandoning Trump. That accepts they were wrong to support him in the first place. That is a hard pill to swallow.

2. Comments criticizing him are "fake news" and they view only echo chamber sources of news (if at all).

3. His crown may have slipped, but look who will get in if we don't vote for him.
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I would concur with your assessment. The MAGA supporters that I know who still support him understand that he is an incredibly flawed person but don't see an alternative who cares about the US as much. As a collective, they are the most open about their chosen leaders failings as I have ever seen about any politician.
 
Stansferret said:
Your point was way off. Like Trump didn’t move Heaven and earth trying to bring Hunter Biden down. Trump’s as vindictive as they come. Anyway most Americans think those left still supporting Trump are morons. I think they’re right.
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Incredible.

I literally said about both sides doing this bollocks and how it affects voter apathy and you STILL charge in with he said she said whataboutery.

Student level stuff
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