In general I think we did, but it didn’t hid our lack of real quality , and the ball Keeps hitting the back of our net. 24 we have let in .No team can do this without being constant losers. I don’t know if anyone can turn us around, but I’m sure Sage can’t.
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Elwissthebest
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Echo that. Liverpool was not likely to yield much. When's the last time we had a bit of magic? Liverpool at home last season? How I hate Sunday matches.
To sack Sage now would be harsh. An international break followed by two potentially winnable matches.
Mateta and Sarr haven't helped much.
Thinking that a change of manager would change things is like saying this country's problems would be solved by trading in Starmer for Burnham.
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park the bus
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Under Sage we've conceded 24 goals in 10 games. The worst in the league. Every game we give ourselves a mountain to climb. That's all you need to know - we're not going to outscore the opposition when letting in over 2 goals every game. And for the record we have scored just 10. Carrying on like this will result in further losses, zero points, and certain relegation.
Did I dream the goal earlier?!
Matty 1915
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I think we know the answer. This is Parish after all.
radicalsteve
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Not enough today to convince anybody that we will stay up and of course we all know it has been unravelling consistently since Dougie left and then Glasner's meltdown last January. Sage is not the answer, but I suspect neither is a new manager going to be able to turn this around. We never built on our FA cup success, and now the club is paying the price for poor recruitment and being unable or willing to retain the top performers. No doubt a new manager comes in the break, but rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic springs to mind whoever it is and we don't have the fiscal capacity in January too get rid of the dross and attract top quality players. Was good while it lasted.
Davepalace707
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1-12. Much better!
martinelliff
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We are bottom of the league with Utd for a reason. The reasons mentioned numerous times, many out of his control. The league position does not necessarily mean the manager should be sacked. We are not Watford. There is a point when he has to go. It may be Monday. I would not be surprised, given the two week break, but I would still give him until after Hull and Coventry. If he fails to win both then we reanimate Woy.
edskan
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I think we've given Sage enough time to show what he's capable of. Yes, today was a better performance but the same issues are still there (poor defending, sloppy passing and lack of clinical finishing). He also doesn't seem that bothered there standing on the touchline. I'm not sure whether it's the French arrogance or what, but try and show the fans (and players) that you care!
Too inconsistent and too fragmented. We need a passionate manager like Pereira, Frank or Dyche to get players on the same page. Based on what I've seen so far this season, I really can't see Sage suddenly getting a tune out of the players (especially on a regular basis).
Too inconsistent and too fragmented. We need a passionate manager like Pereira, Frank or Dyche to get players on the same page. Based on what I've seen so far this season, I really can't see Sage suddenly getting a tune out of the players (especially on a regular basis).
Matty 1915
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Nail....Head
Paaalaaace
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That's it out.......Total rubbish
eritheagle
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Oh god no, not Les Reed!!
eritheagle
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You didn't stay til the end then!!
And a few that do, if played properly.
Surely the first objective is to be difficult to beat, making it really awkward for the opposition to score.
Under Sage we are conceding 2.4 goals per game.
I hear the argument that a new manager may not change this , although nobody can say for sure.
Does this mean that we should retain Sage and continue to average conceding 2.4 goals per game, because it could be the same or worse under a new manager?
Under Sage we are conceding 2.4 goals per game.
I hear the argument that a new manager may not change this , although nobody can say for sure.
Does this mean that we should retain Sage and continue to average conceding 2.4 goals per game, because it could be the same or worse under a new manager?
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I have to concede that it now looks very likely Mr P will feel compelled to replace Pierre Sage. With whom is still unknown. Personally I will be sorry to see him go, mainly because I have a great deal of sympathy for the circumstances surrounding his appointment. He was given a very poor hand.
We played well today and to decide a change on the strength of a loss to Liverpool seems tough when most of us would not have expected a different result.
The difficulties Pierre had to deal with early on have been well documented here and I can't help feeling that a new head coach is going to struggle to turn things around. The real issue for me depends on whether Mr P takes positive action to sort out the backroom dilemma relating to our poor hiring and firing decisions.
So, almost inevitably Pierre will pack his bags and head back to France, but the question of who replaces him fills me with much trepidation.
We played well today and to decide a change on the strength of a loss to Liverpool seems tough when most of us would not have expected a different result.
The difficulties Pierre had to deal with early on have been well documented here and I can't help feeling that a new head coach is going to struggle to turn things around. The real issue for me depends on whether Mr P takes positive action to sort out the backroom dilemma relating to our poor hiring and firing decisions.
So, almost inevitably Pierre will pack his bags and head back to France, but the question of who replaces him fills me with much trepidation.
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VAR will rule it out tomorrow afternoon
The players are putting in a shift which is encouraging. They don't have the demeanour of typical relegation fodder. That's why I think it's so important to change manager now in the hope that we can salvage the season before things really get sour.
elgin eeagle
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Loads of support for Sage in the stands today. He must be the unluckiest manager we have ever had to inherit this defence though.
Sad to say but when we keep leaking goals under Dyche or whoever we end up replacing Sage with, and we surely will, then i hope we remember the decent football we were playing under Sage.
I know that sounds slightly crazy when you are sitting rock bottom after winning a european trophy 6 months ago, and not having scored a goal in the league for 5 matches until the pen, but he has really been thrown under the bus by Hobbs with that defence. I wish we could give him the chance to take us back up, but know that that rarely happens these days.