Besiktas vs. Crystal Palace match thread

[Willo]

a Draw was a fair result cos our defending was poor.

I had a 'Feeling in my water' that we would get a creditable result, much to the surprise of the multitudes on HOL.
I believe a share of the spoils has ensured the abatement of the 'Noise' apropos Pierre Sage,but should we be defeated by Newcastle the decibels level will rise once again.

 

[leejaneagles]

Much better with Kamada alongside Wharton. Not sure how Timber gets back in unless he shows more discipline as a DM. The back three have been working better. Disasi getting credit from Matterface but playing the other two in their correct positions and the wing backs a little deeper has made a difference. Mateta had a huge game and McNeil did more in 60 minutes than Johnson did in all the time he was with us. Pino had a good game too. Of the starting eleven Benitez’s was the only poor performance.

I can think of one way - drop one of the 3 distinctly average centre backs for him. As good as the performance was, someone please explain to me how or why we wouldn’t be able to play that way or press that way if we had a 3 man midfield and dropped one of the 3 ball watchers?

 

[jonnyfoz]

sage and onion to be stuffed by Sunday night?

 

[EagleEddie]

Wanted to see the players reaction tonight after Sunday. Overall, I thought they put a shift in and this suggests they are supporting Sage. Our defence/midfield let us down twice tonight and we got punished. We were much weaker once the subs were on but that’s about the quality available and not Sage.
Play like this against Newcastle and we should get a result.
Hoddle would make a great mentor, sees things as they are but also provides solutions - that’s just with a snapshot of what he saw tonight.

 

[Willo]

sage and onion to be stuffed by Sunday night?

I am of the opinion that the 'Magpies' will get 'Stuffed' on Sunday, a taxidermist is on call.

 

[mtp1958]

Went to bed after 30mins to tired to listen . Sounded like improvement from Sunday but . There is a major issue around our CB , think unless tomiyasu gets injury free we are going to struggle with the ones we have . January window cant come quick enough .
Not sure how Sage is going to get round this without loosing some of our attacking. Even with 4 at the back it won't change that issue , unless we play a sweeper god thats going back in time .
Wish I could have watched it to get a true feeling of there goals. But at least we didn't lose COYP

 

[sprites]

Much better with Kamada alongside Wharton. Not sure how Timber gets back in unless he shows more discipline as a DM. The back three have been working better. Disasi getting credit from Matterface but playing the other two in their correct positions and the wing backs a little deeper has made a difference. Mateta had a huge game and McNeil did more in 60 minutes than Johnson did in all the time he was with us. Pino had a good game too. Of the starting eleven Benitez’s was the only poor performance.

Timber goes straight back in. I understand you wanting to attribute the improved performance to this, but it was a much better pressing effort from everyone...more pressure on the ball higher up led to far move turnovers higher up the field. We didn't buy Timber to sit on the bench - he's a level above alongside Wharton there and should be instantly reinstated. For example, that second goal wouldn't have happened with Timber playing. Plus, Daichi is contributing far more at 10.

Agree, slightly deeper full backs definitely helped too.

Pino, I agree, is looking tasty. Really like the way he's combining with Khalali and Wharton.

We'll get there, I think.!

 

[dreamwaverider]

We so should have won that.

 

[viveasheagle]

Much improved performance in terms of chances conceded. They really only had 2 and both could have been prevented - especially the first one when it was really 3 palace defenders v Ndihi. It looked liked Canvot started to track his run and but as the run was across the back line he left it for one of the others who got confused as Canvot had started to go but then didn't. That bit of hesitation meant he was in. This was one of those that goes down to having constant changes in defence. Going forward as they play regularly together ( and i think it will be Richards Desai and Canvot for some time ) the understanding will gel and these sort of errors should get cut out.
The second one was more a combination of minor mistakes - poor clearance and then some poor challenges / none challenges by the midfielders around the edge of the box.