Reform

Attilio1905 said:
Yes really.

All politicians, governments and elites are corrupt and self serving.

But at least we'd have one that ostensibly supports the indigenous British people, promotes our culture and wants to tackle the existential threat of being colonized via mass non-European migration.

Who knows maybe Reform turn out to be as big as s*** bags as labour and the Tories. But at least Reform talk a good game, opposed to Labour who have dropped any hint of even pretending not to hold us in utter contempt and treat us with blatant hostility.

I couldn't give a monkeys were the cash comes from, hopefully more and more will roll in and keep that Reform juggernaut rolling to victory.
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Yet another who admits they don’t care if our future is sold to the highest bidder. Crypto is nothing but an enormous Ponzi scheme. Currencies without any actual value whose only worth is what others think about them. Like every good Ponzi scheme there are mugs willing to buy in because they believe they are at a level that will earn them real money. Until it all collapses. It always collapses. Allowing those who facilitate these particular Ponzi schemes to influence the way their activities are regulated is ill disguised corruption. They want to turn what they have into real assets, which have real worth, as fast as possible. They know a crash is inevitable. Trump has got even richer by protecting crypto in the USA, even launching one himself. The last thing we need is to allow Farage to imitate him.
 
cryrst said:
Sums up the left.
Abuse abuse abuse but cry when it’s to them. Have a go at an overweight black bloke, not really that funny TBH. If he got stabbed protecting the public would you still be laughing ? Might even be your Mrs or Mr even he saves !
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Yes, my apologies to Fat Albert and his gang there in Essex. Doing the Good Lord's work.
 
HKOwen said:
You cannot be taken seriously as a poster. Another narcissistic oddball who gets some thrill from contrarian posting. Easy enough just to put you on ignore
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I'm just methodically picking apart and skewering your arguments on here. If you can't debate me and want to go all-in with the ad hominem attacks it shames your intellect and your manners.

The cheek of being told to go away this evening when I am celebrating my 20th year on this site. Too long lurking perhaps and not putting across my free-speech views. But here I jolly well am.

Good evening.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
Yet another who admits they don’t care if our future is sold to the highest bidder. Crypto is nothing but an enormous Ponzi scheme. Currencies without any actual value whose only worth is what others think about them. Like every good Ponzi scheme there are mugs willing to buy in because they believe they are at a level that will earn them real money. Until it all collapses. It always collapses. Allowing those who facilitate these particular Ponzi schemes to influence the way their activities are regulated is ill disguised corruption. They want to turn what they have into real assets, which have real worth, as fast as possible. They know a crash is inevitable. Trump has got even richer by protecting crypto in the USA, even launching one himself. The last thing we need is to allow Farage to imitate him.
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The economy and world banking system is a giant Ponzi scheme, crypto is no different and just part of the same house of cards. You are very naive if you think otherwise.
 
Joseph Paxton said:
I'm just methodically picking apart and skewering your arguments on here. If you can't debate me and want to go all-in with the ad hominem attacks it shames your intellect and your manners.

The cheek of being told to go away this evening when I am celebrating my 20th year on this site. Too long lurking perhaps and not putting across my free-speech views. But here I jolly well am.

Good evening.
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I first of all asked you if the security staff saved one person from harm would it be worth the money. Bearing in mind a murder costs us between £1-2 million to investigate.
No answer just more questions. You are not picking nothing apart at all you are swerving because a yes kills your whole original post about the security and cost of it.
 
cryrst said:
I first of all asked you if the security staff saved one person from harm would it be worth the money. Bearing in mind a murder costs us between £1-2 million to investigate.
No answer just more questions. You are not picking nothing apart at all you are swerving because a yes kills your whole original post about the security and cost of it.
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It should be perfectly obvious to you that Essex has for centuries, possessed a Police Force that is trained, deployed and remunerated to protect the citizens of the bailiwick. This service and cost is noted on the council tax bills of every adult domestic residence in the region.

You are asking me if it is worth paying the extra money therefore (reportedly in excess of £150K) as a premium to provide the protection of a controversial organisation called My Local Bobby who are fielding a pair of civil 'Operatives' in 3 towns with an apparent assertion that the Police and Migrant Hostel Staff (also paid by taxpayers) are wholly inadequate at providing protection to the citizens of Essex from the supposed perils of around 36 asylum seekers during supervised shopping and benefits journeys.

Plainly, I think the whole dog and pony show is a political stunt, just like the Clacton bye-election was a costly stunt at over £200k wasted and a total waste of money which won't prevent a single iota of mythic harm from occurring in those towns and indeed, will cause far more harm to the locals than they can realise.

It's akin to asking me if we should have lollipop men at every set of traffic lights for a belt and braces approach if it prevented one solitary RTA in my town. The answer is clearly NO!!!
 
Joseph Paxton said:
It should be perfectly obvious to you that Essex has for centuries, possessed a Police Force that is trained, deployed and remunerated to protect the citizens of the bailiwick. This service and cost is noted on the council tax bills of every adult domestic residence in the region.

You are asking me if it is worth paying the extra money therefore (reportedly in excess of £150K) as a premium to provide the protection of a controversial organisation called My Local Bobby who are fielding a pair of civil 'Operatives' in 3 towns with an apparent assertion that the Police and Migrant Hostel Staff (also paid by taxpayers) are wholly inadequate at providing protection to the citizens of Essex from the supposed perils of around 36 asylum seekers during supervised shopping and benefits journeys.

Plainly, I think the whole dog and pony show is a political stunt, just like the Clacton bye-election was a costly stunt at over £200k wasted and a total waste of money which won't prevent a single iota of mythic harm from occurring in those towns and indeed, will cause far more harm to the locals than they can realise.

It's akin to asking me if we should have lollipop men at every set of traffic lights for a belt and braces approach if it prevented one solitary RTA in my town. The answer is clearly NO!!!
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Ok you have answered but used a lot of words unnecessarily. Time will tell if these do actually prevent harm and if so you may change your opinion even !
Btw what is mythic harm ?
 
CPFCSaturn said:
I respect your honesty but that's an incredible admission.

"I don't care who funds, and therefore controls, the people who will run my country".
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Union funding in exchange for Union demands = fine
Private funding for "a level playing field" = CRIME!!!

You realise that if they get their way and Reform get in Labour can kiss goodbye to Union funding
 
CPFCSaturn said:
Of course it's not a one-party problem.

But to express you don't at all care who funds our politicians is staggering.
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What do you know about these donors that makes you think it's so abhorrent?

How can they be different from a corporate donation?
 
cryrst said:
Ok you have answered but used a lot of words unnecessarily. Time will tell if these do actually prevent harm and if so you may change your opinion even !
Btw what is mythic harm ?
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Think of this whole pantomime patrol as a sledgehammer made of glass to crack a nut made of play-doh. Do you do metaphors? Or "Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel?" according to Pope (and no, not the one in the Vatican)
 
Hrolf The Ganger said:
Your attempt to fudge this obvious attempt by Labour to nobble Reform is completely transparent. Your feeble attack on me just confirms that you are exposed as the dishonest twerp you are.
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Any semblance of independent thought gone, just endlessly tow the line. Any criticism or scrutiny is an ‘attack’ by ‘enemies’.

Congrats on your cult.
 
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Spindle said:
Union funding in exchange for Union demands = fine
Private funding for "a level playing field" = CRIME!!!

You realise that if they get their way and Reform get in Labour can kiss goodbye to Union funding
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Your ability to invent strawmen is absolutely unmatched. Never seen anything like it.
 
Joseph Paxton said:
I'm just methodically picking apart and skewering your arguments on here. If you can't debate me and want to go all-in with the ad hominem attacks it shames your intellect and your manners.

The cheek of being told to go away this evening when I am celebrating my 20th year on this site. Too long lurking perhaps and not putting across my free-speech views. But here I jolly well am.

Good evening.
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Who told you to go away?
 
Rayner's deranged rant at the TUC congress is worth a look?

Fascist oligarchs? Language like this led to the murder of Anne Widdecombe.

On a side note, her eldest son, the one she had when she was 16, earns his living making p*** on OnlyFans. One can only hope she becomes PM one day
 
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