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Can you point out the exact quote where it's up to 14 years in the UK for the same systemic compliance failures that formed a conviction in the US?

Always hilarious how you ‘law and order’ lot don’t have the first clue how the law works in this country.

Shall we try some basic English instead? Do you understand what the word ‘guidelines’ means?
 
Always hilarious how you ‘law and order’ lot don’t have the first clue how the law works in this country.

Shall we try some basic English instead? Do you understand what the word ‘guidelines’ means?

Ah. So the conviction in the US would not be a conviction in the UK? It's just guidelines?


Apparently it was "a regulatory failing that isn’t even a crime in the UK"

Can you clear it up for us Dan? If it is or isint? Citations and sources are most welcome to support your argument.
 
Ah. So the conviction in the US would not be a conviction in the UK? It's just guidelines?


Apparently it was "a regulatory failing that isn’t even a crime in the UK"

Can you clear it up for us Dan? If it is or isint? Citations and sources are most welcome to support your argument.

Where are his citations and sources that it wasn’t in his article? They would be most welcome rather than just his word.
 
Never fails to amaze me how desperate your lot have to get to defend your people and politics.

Another slow hand clap for yet another brilliant showing, mince boy.

Aaah you now resort to insults. Classic Dan.

I'm not defending him I'm just trying to asertain the facts and truth here. Can you not enlighten us?

So if the exact same compliance oversights occurred within a UK regulated framework? It would have been treated as a severe regulatory breach resulting in fines and regulatory bans and not a criminal prosecution?

Or is my thinking wrong? Can you correct it? Without throwing insults? I want to be informed here. Surely you know all about it what with having a company of "100 employees".
 
Aaah you now resort to insults. Classic Dan.

I'm not defending him I'm just trying to asertain the facts and truth here. Can you not enlighten us?

So if the exact same compliance oversights occurred within a UK regulated framework? It would have been treated as a severe regulatory breach resulting in fines and regulatory bans and not a criminal prosecution?

Or is my thinking wrong? Can you correct it? Without throwing insults? I want to be informed here. Surely you know all about it what with having a company of "100 employees".

Yep. We’re literally bound by the same AML regulations. And you keep on trying to insult me for doing well in life. Every little dig just makes you look that little bit more insecure and inadequate.
 
Quite literally is a crime in the UK, for anyone that even slightly doubted it.


Ummm.......The article explains that "under the current UK framework, failing to implement adequate anti-money laundering (AML) controls or proper Know Your Customer (KYC) compliance is treated as a civil or regulatory infraction handled by bodies like the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA)"

So essentially what it's saying is that in the UK the administrative shortcomings result in massive corporate fines, public censures, or the loss of operating licences, rather than personal criminal records?
 
Ummm.......The article explains that "under the current UK framework, failing to implement adequate anti-money laundering (AML) controls or proper Know Your Customer (KYC) compliance is treated as a civil or regulatory infraction handled by bodies like the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA)"

So essentially what it's saying is that in the UK the administrative shortcomings result in massive corporate fines, public censures, or the loss of operating licences, rather than personal criminal records?

If it facilitates money laundering it quite literally is a criminal offence.
 

“From at least September 2015, and continuing at least through the time of the Indictment in September 2020, HAYES and DELO willfully caused BitMEX to fail to establish and maintain an AML program, including a program for verifying the identify of BitMEX’s customers (or a “know your customer” or “KYC” program). As a result of its willful failure to implement AML and KYC programs, BitMEX was in effect a money laundering platform. For example, in May 2018, HAYES was notified of allegations that BitMEX was being used to launder the proceeds of a cryptocurrency hack. Neither HAYES, DELO, nor their company filed a suspicious activity report thereafter (indeed, BitMEX filed no suspicious activity reports at all between 2014 and September 2020), nor did they implement an AML or KYC program in response. Unsurprisingly, BitMEX was also a vehicle for sanctions violations: HAYES and DELO both communicated directly with BitMEX customers who self-identified as being based in Iran, an OFAC-sanctioned jurisdiction, but did nothing to implement an AML or KYC program after doing so.

HAYES and DELO failed to institute AML or KYC programs at BitMEX despite closely following U.S. regulatory developments that made clear their legal obligation to do so if BitMEX operated in the United States, which it did. Despite repeatedly stating that BitMEX did not serve U.S. customers, including to members of the press and others outside of BitMEX, HAYES and DELO both knew that BitMEX’s purported withdrawal from the U.S. market in or about September 2015 was a sham, and that purported “controls” BitMEX put in place to prevent U.S. trading were an ineffective facade that did not, in fact, prevent users from accessing or trading on BitMEX from the United States. HAYES and DELO not only understood that U.S. customers continued to trade on BitMEX, but derived substantial profits from BitMEX as a result of U.S.-based trading. HAYES and DELO actively sought out U.S. customers by using U.S.-based cryptocurrency “influencers” to market to new customers through BitMEX’s so-called “Affiliate Program.” HAYES also conducted U.S. television appearances and marketing stunts that promoted BitMEX’s products in the United States. DELO allowed a customer to continue to access a BitMEX trading account despite this customer explicitly being “US based,” merely because that customer was “famous in Bitcoin.” DELO falsely changed internal tracking information to reflect that customer’s country of residence as being other than the United States, despite knowing that to be false.”

This would also be a criminal offence in the UK.
 
“From at least September 2015, and continuing at least through the time of the Indictment in September 2020, HAYES and DELO willfully caused BitMEX to fail to establish and maintain an AML program, including a program for verifying the identify of BitMEX’s customers (or a “know your customer” or “KYC” program). As a result of its willful failure to implement AML and KYC programs, BitMEX was in effect a money laundering platform. For example, in May 2018, HAYES was notified of allegations that BitMEX was being used to launder the proceeds of a cryptocurrency hack. Neither HAYES, DELO, nor their company filed a suspicious activity report thereafter (indeed, BitMEX filed no suspicious activity reports at all between 2014 and September 2020), nor did they implement an AML or KYC program in response. Unsurprisingly, BitMEX was also a vehicle for sanctions violations: HAYES and DELO both communicated directly with BitMEX customers who self-identified as being based in Iran, an OFAC-sanctioned jurisdiction, but did nothing to implement an AML or KYC program after doing so.

HAYES and DELO failed to institute AML or KYC programs at BitMEX despite closely following U.S. regulatory developments that made clear their legal obligation to do so if BitMEX operated in the United States, which it did. Despite repeatedly stating that BitMEX did not serve U.S. customers, including to members of the press and others outside of BitMEX, HAYES and DELO both knew that BitMEX’s purported withdrawal from the U.S. market in or about September 2015 was a sham, and that purported “controls” BitMEX put in place to prevent U.S. trading were an ineffective facade that did not, in fact, prevent users from accessing or trading on BitMEX from the United States. HAYES and DELO not only understood that U.S. customers continued to trade on BitMEX, but derived substantial profits from BitMEX as a result of U.S.-based trading. HAYES and DELO actively sought out U.S. customers by using U.S.-based cryptocurrency “influencers” to market to new customers through BitMEX’s so-called “Affiliate Program.” HAYES also conducted U.S. television appearances and marketing stunts that promoted BitMEX’s products in the United States. DELO allowed a customer to continue to access a BitMEX trading account despite this customer explicitly being “US based,” merely because that customer was “famous in Bitcoin.” DELO falsely changed internal tracking information to reflect that customer’s country of residence as being other than the United States, despite knowing that to be false.”

This would also be a criminal offence in the UK.

Interesting.....I'll have a good read and get back to you later with my observations.
 
Do you not think it’s in the public interest to know where a £36 million donation ultimately came from regardless of the party?
Getting rid of this s*** government is in the public interest. I don't care where the money comes from as long as we stop illegal immigration, deport scumbag criminals and reverse wokery.

It's telling that whining about donations is all you have left desperate Dan.

You didn't mind about donations to Labour from tax havens, did you Dan?
 
Getting rid of this s*** government is in the public interest. I don't care where the money comes from as long as we stop illegal immigration, deport scumbag criminals and reverse wokery.

It's telling that whining about donations is all you have left desperate Dan.

You didn't mind about donations to Labour from tax havens, did you Dan?
At least what you say is true. In that you don’t care.

I care and so do, I believe, the majority of voters. I make no exceptions whatsoever. Any party failing to abide by the law should receive the maximum punishment available.

The idea that any billionaire, however they made their money or wherever they base themselves, can try to exert influence over our politics more than me, is offensive.

It’s done openly in the US and I do not want to see it imported here.

If I were the mainstream parties I would maximise the connection between Trump and Farage and ask if we really want that here?
 

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