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Stirlingsays said:
I think that would be difficult to prove, but I'm not against the investigation.

Plans for pandemics are hardly secrets, we had a plan and if I remember correct it was thrown out due to terrible projections....Was that malicious for profit or incompetence and/or scare mongering?....all worthy of investigating.....essentially it all ended up with the Gates approach.....So I certainly hope it all gets looked into.

Because we certainly haven't had the truth.
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Put it another way: has Jeffrey Epstein ever been involved in anything virtuous that wasn't a front for nefarious activity?

And why would anyone say 'Let's hope we can pull this off' about a training exercise?
 
McAhuna said:
These are not remote theoretical debates. There were real consequences and justice must be served 🙁

https://twitter.com/x/status/2086924286715973745
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Yep the doubts he wrote in email discussions regarding miscarriage was in direct opposition to the statement of safety he was giving in public.

I remember the BBC giving similar safety advice at the time.....and I thought at the time that to do so was extremely risky.....but someone at the BBC decided otherwise.

I think we are going to see fallout.
 
cryrst said:
It’s a bit like protesters being offended on someone else’s behalf.
BLM, alphabets, Palestine for the hit of being a great guy or girl.
What right do the not so stupid people have to be offended on my behalf.
Just maybe the ones who had the jab don’t actually give a s*** !
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You don't give a s*** that the jab was far less effective, and far more dangerous, than you were told?

But post regularly on this Covid debate, usually to defend those who lied to you .... or to throw barbs at those revealing the lies.

I find that fascinatingly strange behaviour. I mean, seriously, what's going on with that?

It's a bit like those women chanting 'refugees welcome', while ignoring and deriding teenage girl rape victims of grooming gangs.
 
McAhuna said:
You don't give a s*** that the jab was far less effective, and far more dangerous, than you were told?

But post regularly on this Covid debate, usually to defend those who lied to you .... or to throw barbs at those revealing the lies.

I find that fascinatingly strange behaviour. I mean, seriously, what's going on with that?

It's a bit like those women chanting 'refugees welcome', while ignoring and deriding teenage girl rape victims of grooming gangs.
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Correct I don’t. If I was worried about side effects of drugs I doubt I would take a paracetamol ever again. Have you ever read the leaflet. Rare side effects around 10000-1. Those side effects include bad s*** and even death. Then add on my RA drugs and codeine pain killers I might as well go foetal position and give up. The odds on this jab causing issues is probably huge. I was prepared to take the chance. Albeit I did have the first batch which wasn’t tested properly apparently. No one gets out alive I’m afraid so I think I made a grown up decision, twice BTW.
My point is you don't need to be angry on my behalf. As mentioned I am immune suppressed so given that I would like to think I gave myself a better chance of none or mild Covid which I did get with the blue lines, but very mild with little to no symptoms. It could be I never had it more than 1% if possible but the tests showed minute trace I believe.
It worked or seemed to work for me so why should I slag it off or not defend how it appeared to help me !
 
cryrst said:
Correct I don’t. If I was worried about side effects of drugs I doubt I would take a paracetamol ever again. Have you ever read the leaflet. Rare side effects around 10000-1. Those side effects include bad s*** and even death. Then add on my RA drugs and codeine pain killers I might as well go foetal position and give up. The odds on this jab causing issues is probably huge. I was prepared to take the chance. Albeit I did have the first batch which wasn’t tested properly apparently. No one gets out alive I’m afraid so I think I made a grown up decision, twice BTW.
My point is you don't need to be angry on my behalf. As mentioned I am immune suppressed so given that I would like to think I gave myself a better chance of none or mild Covid which I did get with the blue lines, but very mild with little to no symptoms. It could be I never had it more than 1% if possible but the tests showed minute trace I believe.
It worked or seemed to work for me so why should I slag it off or not defend how it appeared to help me !
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Who said I was angry on your behalf?

Stories like the one above (the miscarriage couple) are upsetting however. They were clearly misled, with likely awful consequences.

I think they deserve justice. Don't you?
 
cryrst said:
Correct I don’t. If I was worried about side effects of drugs I doubt I would take a paracetamol ever again. Have you ever read the leaflet. Rare side effects around 10000-1. Those side effects include bad s*** and even death. Then add on my RA drugs and codeine pain killers I might as well go foetal position and give up. The odds on this jab causing issues is probably huge. I was prepared to take the chance. Albeit I did have the first batch which wasn’t tested properly apparently. No one gets out alive I’m afraid so I think I made a grown up decision, twice BTW.
My point is you don't need to be angry on my behalf. As mentioned I am immune suppressed so given that I would like to think I gave myself a better chance of none or mild Covid which I did get with the blue lines, but very mild with little to no symptoms. It could be I never had it more than 1% if possible but the tests showed minute trace I believe.
It worked or seemed to work for me so why should I slag it off or not defend how it appeared to help me !
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I don't think McAhuna, myself or others are speaking on others behalfs necessarily.

We are talking of informed consent. This was non existent. Big difference in deciding what you put in your body. Take a drug and know the potential side affects, all good; but this was not the case with the covid jab. Personally take as many jabs as you like, it's not my business, but the fact that informed consent was not present is my business.

McAhuna and myself plus others we know were pressurised into taking it. Both McAhuna and myself didn't. But some of my close relations did.

So remember this was an experimental procedure that had previous with regards to animal studies and indeed human studies; unknown until Pfizer released (slowly their papers).

If we live in a world where we only worry about things that happen to us, then we are called selfish. The other way it's none of our business.

We were told this was safe and effective and you could not transmit covid once you'd had the jab. Both these statements were patently untrue.

Where's the controversy?
 
McAhuna said:
Who said I was angry on your behalf?

Stories like the one above (the miscarriage couple) are upsetting however. They were clearly misled, with likely awful consequences.

I think they deserve justice. Don't you?
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Of course it is very sad and if jailing people will make them feel better then ok. Although there could be 5 year olds who wouldn’t be here without the jab.
Has that featured as a consideration with you ?
 
cryrst said:
Of course it is very sad and if jailing people will make them feel better then ok. Although there could be 5 year olds who wouldn’t be here without the jab.
Has that featured as a consideration with you ?
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There is very little evidence of that. If a child was very ill with respiratory
illness then a jab is something to look at. But we are talking about a tiny percentage when in reality they pushed to jab every child.

The vast amount of people at danger from covid were the elderly who were sick and vulnerable. Just as they are if they catch the flu. Covid did not seem to attack children....which is another aspect that points towards a designed virus.

Whereas when it comes to miscarriage there is increasing evidence, from the US for example, that the experts not only knew that these vaccines were potentially lethal to pregnant women's babies, but publicly they decided on denial and to push it as safe.

I remember the BBC producing a video with a women talking to camera suggesting that pregnant women should take it.....As I've said, at the time I thought....that could seriously rebound on them.
 
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