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No it’s not! Totalitarian states punish any that challenge the party line. We don’t. People like me just ridicule those who think they know better before enquiries are completed.

I didn’t say my opinion wasn’t amateur! It is. On the subject of Covid itself. I though trust those who are genuine experts and am willing to await enquiry conclusions before coming to a view.

It’s very unlikely that I will find anything in the enquiry report to disagree with. Question degrees of emphasis perhaps and research the reasoning but I will default to the experts and their superior knowledge.
Experts who said you'd be safe sitting in a restaurant but not standing up? Good luck with that.
Experts like those responsible for food additives which Harvard now conclude lead to -
Hormone disruption, increased cancer risks, gut microbe inflammation and behavioural issues in children.
Why not? They only have our best interest at heart.
 
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We knew very early on that this was mainly affecting old people. So very early on we could have had children back in school and out playing. 3 weeks to flatten the curve. Lol
That though was NOT the point, as I suspect you already fully understand. Whilst it was soon realised that young people weren’t suffering severely they could still catch and transmit the virus to the groups of people who were severely impacted.
Off course I NEVER wore a mask in public places. What a very silly question. In public it was recommended and never a law. Many people had medical conditions so they couldn't wear them anyway. You never had to say you were exempt, as that would be an admission of a private medical condition. You could just say I choose not to wear one. As far as I know, every covid punishment challenged has been overturned as it was unlawful.
Then you were very lucky, as well as being irresponsible. Failing to wear a face covering in mandated public indoor spaces or public transport during the COVID-19 pandemic in the UK was unlawful, enforced via Fixed Penalty Notices (FPNs) starting at £100 or £200 (depending on the regulations at the time) and doubling for repeat offenses up to a maximum of £6,400. Not many fines were actually made. There being no wish to punish, just a wish to see public spirited compliance in a national endeavour. Well done. You failed.
Masks didn't work they only made the wearer sick. Breathing in their own germs and carbon dioxide. Fiddling around with them all the time. The masks easily let through "virus particles " the equivalent of throwing a bucket of water through a chain link fence.
You do yourself no harm when breathing in germs you already have. Masks of course worked by stopping huge amounts of virus being expelled into small spaces, rather than be caught or forced to fall to the ground. Something a close wired chain link fence does to water. They also gave reassurance and comfort to many.
200 people at my work. No masks at the so called height of it. Social distancing paid lip service. No one got ill. I've already told you this but you bang on about social distancing, masks and saving lives.
Then your company was also careless and irresponsible.
Answer me this please. What is the point of the 2 meter rule for an airborne disease. Surely by that logic none of us would have been able to occupy the space someone else had recently been; but we did all the time breathing the same air.
If you cough or sneeze directly into another’s face you risk them receiving a large dose of virus. Do it 2 metres away that virus dissipates, some of it falls, and the dosage risk diminishes. It’s not a complete solution. It mitigates risk. So was obviously both necessary and worthwhile. Not that the common sense involved penetrated the determined know it alls.
The government put out on a gov. link March 2020 that "covid 19: was a member of the coronavirus illnesses. That it was similar to the flu and not deadly to most. So we knew very early.
Similar in structure doesn’t mean anything. It was new, with no known cure or remedies. Worst case scenarios were awful.
The great Dr Vernon Coleman used to keep that link on his website, it might still be there.
You show your true colours here! The only thing great about Coleman is that he is a great conspiracy theorist.


The NHS were overwhelmed in some places probably because healthy staff were being sent home with false positives from the pcr test.
The NHS wasn’t overwhelmed. Staff worked overtime and were reassigned from other duties to ensure they weren’t. There were knock on effects, of course.
Every winter the NHS is overwhelmed from flu and respiratory issues. This time they had far fewer staff because of the testing. The same happened at my work.
The NHS get put under pressure but never overwhelmed. PCR testing helped. I tested positive 3 times, and my symptoms each time meant I would certainly have infected others if I had not isolated.
The NHS didn't provide me with any service, (of which I pay for through my taxes and your wife gets paid to do a job) I never used them through the debacle.
How many others did you infect through your carelessness and irresponsibility? You don’t, of course, have any idea because you didn’t test, wear a mask or socially distance!
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We didn't need to learn on the hoof. This was shown and admitted to be a coronavirus, not a deadly disease to healthy people. Certainly not children and people probably under 50 at least.
A new coronavirus! One with no known cure or treatment. Just because something shares a common root with something else means nothing at all, other than a place to start with your research.
We already knew about sars cov 1. That's how we got to sar cov 2. Are you following me? So why unprecedented lockdown of everyone for a virus which they already knew about.

Are you simple? They aren’t the same! They share 79% of their genetic code and use the same pathway to infect, but they aren’t the same virus. The treatment for one doesn’t equal the treatment for the other. Both require completely different regimes.
 
No it’s not! Totalitarian states punish any that challenge the party line. We don’t. People like me just ridicule those who think they know better before enquiries are completed.

I didn’t say my opinion wasn’t amateur! It is. On the subject of Covid itself. I though trust those who are genuine experts and am willing to await enquiry conclusions before coming to a view.

It’s very unlikely that I will find anything in the enquiry report to disagree with. Question degrees of emphasis perhaps and research the reasoning but I will default to the experts and their superior knowledge.

Did you trust Anthony Fauci as one of the experts?
 
Experts who said you'd be safe sitting in a restaurant but not standing up? Good luck with that.
Experts like those responsible for food additives which Harvard now conclude lead to -
Hormone disruption, increased cancer risks, gut microbe inflammation and behavioural issues in children.
Why not? They only have our best interest at heart.
The eat out to help out scheme has, rightly in my view, been criticised as a response designed to help restaurants and not people. It happened as the restrictions were beginning to ease and, whilst staying in one place could conceivably be better than mingling, it always felt dubious to me.

Food additives were my business. I being the National President of a society representing those working in a particular sub sector. So I have some knowledge. It’s a very big field, embracing many categories that enable food to be stored and eaten later. Avoiding both waste and hunger. Freshly harvested food, eaten from field to plate is always best, but not actually available to that many in today’s world. I know the testing regimes that are employed and also that science is always evolving, discovering previously unknown issues and ways to overcome them.

Overcome them we must, because without additives the world would face mass starvation.
 
The eat out to help out scheme has, rightly in my view, been criticised as a response designed to help restaurants and not people. It happened as the restrictions were beginning to ease and, whilst staying in one place could conceivably be better than mingling, it always felt dubious to me.

Food additives were my business. I being the National President of a society representing those working in a particular sub sector. So I have some knowledge. It’s a very big field, embracing many categories that enable food to be stored and eaten later. Avoiding both waste and hunger. Freshly harvested food, eaten from field to plate is always best, but not actually available to that many in today’s world. I know the testing regimes that are employed and also that science is always evolving, discovering previously unknown issues and ways to overcome them.

Overcome them we must, because without additives the world would face mass starvation.

So you're also the c*** that adds all those E-number chemicals to my kids' food.
 
Blimey that is some claim !

You're just teeing them up for me now

  • White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator Jeff Zients (December 2021): “For the unvaccinated, you’re looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm.”
  • EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen warning against a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”; a German health minister stating unvaccinated people would be “vaccinated, cured or dead by March”).
  • CDC Director Rochelle Walensky (July 2021): Stated “This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” noting outbreaks in low-vaccination areas and that unvaccinated people remained at risk while the vaccinated were generally protected against severe disease. She and others referenced preliminary data suggesting ~99–99.5% of recent COVID deaths occurred among the unvaccinated.
  • President Joe Biden: Repeatedly used the “pandemic of the unvaccinated” phrase. He said things like “People are dying, and will die, who don’t have to die,” “Some will die, needlessly die,” and (citing similar stats) that nearly all recent deaths (e.g., ~9,950 of 10,000) were among the unvaccinated.
  • HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra: “If you are dying today in America from COVID, it’s because essentially you’re unvaccinated. Why would you want to die?” He described it as a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” with ~99% of deaths among the unvaccinated.
  • Anthony Fauci and others echoed high percentages (e.g., 99% of recent deaths unvaccinated) and that nearly all such deaths were preventable via vaccination.
 
You're just teeing them up for me now

  • White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator Jeff Zients (December 2021): “For the unvaccinated, you’re looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm.”
  • EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen warning against a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”; a German health minister stating unvaccinated people would be “vaccinated, cured or dead by March”).
  • CDC Director Rochelle Walensky (July 2021): Stated “This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” noting outbreaks in low-vaccination areas and that unvaccinated people remained at risk while the vaccinated were generally protected against severe disease. She and others referenced preliminary data suggesting ~99–99.5% of recent COVID deaths occurred among the unvaccinated.
  • President Joe Biden: Repeatedly used the “pandemic of the unvaccinated” phrase. He said things like “People are dying, and will die, who don’t have to die,” “Some will die, needlessly die,” and (citing similar stats) that nearly all recent deaths (e.g., ~9,950 of 10,000) were among the unvaccinated.
  • HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra: “If you are dying today in America from COVID, it’s because essentially you’re unvaccinated. Why would you want to die?” He described it as a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” with ~99% of deaths among the unvaccinated.
  • Anthony Fauci and others echoed high percentages (e.g., 99% of recent deaths unvaccinated) and that nearly all such deaths were preventable via vaccination.
That’s not to say many didn’t survive because of the jab. The truth will never be known.
You may hope to find it one day but you won’t!
 
The eat out to help out scheme has, rightly in my view, been criticised as a response designed to help restaurants and not people. It happened as the restrictions were beginning to ease and, whilst staying in one place could conceivably be better than mingling, it always felt dubious to me.

Food additives were my business. I being the National President of a society representing those working in a particular sub sector. So I have some knowledge. It’s a very big field, embracing many categories that enable food to be stored and eaten later. Avoiding both waste and hunger. Freshly harvested food, eaten from field to plate is always best, but not actually available to that many in today’s world. I know the testing regimes that are employed and also that science is always evolving, discovering previously unknown issues and ways to overcome them.

Overcome them we must, because without additives the world would face mass starvation.
Wisbech, the Jason Arday of HOL.
 
Ought to be the national anthem of conspiracy theorists.

Those people who cannot accept that most times the obvious answers are the right ones, that things that quack are generally ducks and that most people want to help and support their fellow citizens and not to cheat or control them.
I'm so glad you think that way. It makes me love and cherish it even more. His daughter lived across the road from me and we had the same teacher. Small world. X

Edit, thanks for listening to the song, I appreciate that, honestly.
 
This does exactly what I said the enquiry would do. Look at the timings and preparedness and learn the lessons so we do not repeat mistakes.

It doesn’t suggest for a moment that the lockdowns, and other steps, were unnecessary but that they ought to have been done earlier and more decisively. It criticises the lack of expectation of second and third waves. Which to me seems hard but they have more information than I do, so must be valid.
 
This does exactly what I said the enquiry would do. Look at the timings and preparedness and learn the lessons so we do not repeat mistakes.

It doesn’t suggest for a moment that the lockdowns, and other steps, were unnecessary but that they ought to have been done earlier and more decisively. It criticises the lack of expectation of second and third waves. Which to me seems hard but they have more information than I do, so must be valid.
It does say,

Had restrictions been introduced sooner – when the number of cases was lower – the mandatory lockdown from 23 March might have been shorter or not necessary at all.
 
This does exactly what I said the enquiry would do. Look at the timings and preparedness and learn the lessons so we do not repeat mistakes.

It doesn’t suggest for a moment that the lockdowns, and other steps, were unnecessary but that they ought to have been done earlier and more decisively. It criticises the lack of expectation of second and third waves. Which to me seems hard but they have more information than I do, so must be valid.

Interesting way of thinking. Do you think the inventor of the MRNA vaccine and the Inventor of the PCR test may have more information than you?
Or do they not count because you were instructed not to listen to them?
 

That was his choice.

This was widely reported on in the US at the time.

It is completely standard across the board. EVERY SINGLE PERSON who undergoes an organ transplant in the US is required to receive a comprehensive set of vaccinations for all kind of diseases and they are required to keep up on boosters. They are required to take immunosuppressant drugs that dull their immune system, so as to keep it from destroying the replacement organ because the human body recognises it as an invader and attempts to destroy it unless it’s kept artificially weakened.

Standard procedure, of which he was fully aware. His choice and a rather bizarre one knowing it meant that he would die without a transplant. There was very little sympathy for him and understandably so.
 

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