US Politics

[Spindle]

Iran's greatest mistake was to trust the United States.

If they had not signed a nuclear treaty which they kept to, and Trump tore up, they could by now have joined the nuclear club and have the security others do, in particular the prevention of nuclear attack by the United States.

The only time a nuclear bomb was fired was by the United States on Japanese civilians in WW2, the USA is now widely perceived in the world as the creator of global chaos with its incessant wars from which no good has ever come, they are a rogue state bullying the world by borrowing to enforce their empire's hegemony.

The United States was born by genocide and racism against it's indigenous people and has had only 19 years peace in the 250 years of it's existence.

Why are americans so stupid as to allow a small country like Israel to practically rule them?

Well they do, congress has just voted to allow merger of their military with the genocidal IDF.

Its quite incredible, like WW2 reversed.

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Please bag your bags and fk off to one of the islamic shtholes that you flagshag for, you are not British

 

[Spindle]

What a stupid crass comment. Is that your sole response, just showing you can't come up with a reasoned argument.
Because someone is critical of the USA does not make them a raving communist.

He's a Jew hating Islamist not a communist. You can stick up for him but he'd be celebrating when they chop off your head

 

[silvertop]

I agree, the US has been primarily responsible for the decades of global peace since the end of WWII. That it had partners who were willing to have open to frank conversations but also capable partners, I think helped more than people realize. Post WWII is a fascinating time to study in that the US is trying to get out of Europe but trying to stick around to keep the Soviets out while hoping at the same time that the broken economies of Europe would be able to fund strong militaries that could relieve the US of the responsibility but many European politicians realized that they could improve social programs and put less into their military and they did so for decades.

The original gold issues arouse two years before the US even joined World War I, England wanted goods from the US and the US wasn't going to give it for free. That England couldn't pay for everything that it wanted wasn't the fault of the US, that is the fault of England not being fiscally responsible. England destroyed its economy for a continent who refused to spend the same amount on themselves.

It is my individual perspective that there really wasn't as much of a switch in going from the UK to the US in terms of transitions as people would like to believe. There is an ethical component inside of the English speaking world that has its roots in the Magna Carta that most of the rest of the world has never taken to heart at the same level. So while the accent may have switched, the morals and ethics have been fairly consistent.

I think Trump makes some solid points at times in which I agree with him. And then he'll turn around and say something that is so asinine that I cannot figure out what his point is. That being said, the European anti-American attitudes did arrive with Trump and have been going for longer then most of have been alive. Pretending that it doesn't exist is just as disingenuous as saying Trump is a moral person, it just isn't accurate.

Some good stuff in there but please call our country by its name.

Also this claim of the US seeking to pass back responsibility for European defence is a Trump thing. Previous incumbents have occasionally paid lip service to the concept for popular reasons but have largely followed the concept of the post war settlement and serving the military industrial behemoth.

 

[Mark B]

Some good stuff in there but please call our country by its name.

Also this claim of the US seeking to pass back responsibility for European defence is a Trump thing. Previous incumbents have occasionally paid lip service to the concept for popular reasons but have largely followed the concept of the post war settlement and serving the military industrial behemoth.

So you prefer just England? Works for me, whatever makes you happy.

The pass back to Europeans on defense actually started with Eisenhower back in the 1950s. He hit on many of the same problems today while recognizing that most of Europe was not economically capable of taking on that role. Especially following the collapse of the Soviet Union American Presidents pushed for it but they were polite about it, unlike Trump who seems to derive almost sexual pleasure from pointing out European issues.