Reform

[DanH]

If you consider it, every single non reform voter can vote for Count Binface. Which will be silly but the media will love it. He would need over fifty percent of the vote to avoid this. Which is unlikely. Plus Binface is all over the media and social media.

There is a possibility something extremely funny could happen (it won’t).

 

[silvertop]

Is the principle to deny the voters of Clacton an effective opposition to Farage.

Count Bin Man maybe funny but he should not be an MP. As I have said previously if the major parties don't want to face Farage independently the get a sensible unity candidate e.g. anti racist, anti Farage, pro EU blah blah.

Not standing a viable candidate is just playing games as Farage is doing.

You can't take the moral high ground if you don't throw your hat into the ring or something like that..

That is the point.

This is a fake by-election called not because the candidate wishes to resign, has been charged with an offence, is ill or has died, or any of the other valid reasons. It is a political scam of Farage v the "Establishment" to feed the significant paranoid base who believe the world is controlled by a mystical elite cabal.

Had he waited for the Standards Committee to report and, if found guilty of committing a breach, resigned and stood, I would support your view.

However, he has protested his innocence but then acted as if guilty. He has voluntarily put on his fluorescent jacket and joined the ranks of those picking litter for community service before any court has ordered it.

Why should the other parties feed this political victim-building stunt?

And what makes this all the odder is I suspect his protestation of innocence is well made. He has been silly but not dishonest. Had he cooperated fully with the Committee, received vindication and let this blow over, it would have been chip wrap years before the next general election.

 

[DanH]

That is the point.

This is a fake by-election called not because the candidate wishes to resign, has been charged with an offence, is ill or has died, or any of the other valid reasons. It is a political scam of Farage v the "Establishment" to feed the significant paranoid base who believe the world is controlled by a mystical elite cabal.

Had he waited for the Standards Committee to report and, if found guilty of committing a breach, resigned and stood, I would support your view.

However, he has protested his innocence but then acted as if guilty. He has voluntarily put on his fluorescent jacket and joined the ranks of those picking litter for community service before any court has ordered it.

Why should the other parties feed this political victim-building stunt?

And what makes this all the odder is I suspect his protestation of innocence is well made. He has been silly but not dishonest. Had he cooperated fully with the Committee, received vindication and let this blow over, it would have been chip wrap years before the next general election.

Every word of this.

 

[ASCPFC]

Andy Burnham has left Greater Manchester with £1.34 billion in debt – the highest debt of any combined authority in England.

50,000 people have been prosecuted over non payment of council tax.

 

[Stirlingsays]

What’s the point in spending time and money and attention in a totally unnecessary by-election you know you’ll lose when you can let Farage run against a man with a bin on his head?

All the other parties have done is return serve.

What's the point?

You mean democracy?

Maybe you're right, just not in the fashion you meant.

 

[Stirlingsays]

50,000 people have been prosecuted over non payment of council tax.

Labour are useless and have elected the next King of the Useless.....but he's smiles more.

That's pretty much their whole strategy.

 

[Stirlingsays]

There is a possibility something extremely funny could happen (it won’t).

If he wasn't actually a leftist and instead purely some non political person having a laugh then yeah.

But it's a stunt....albeit a well done one....by an establishment activist.

No wonder you like it.

 

[Dogburger]

That is the point.

This is a fake by-election called not because the candidate wishes to resign, has been charged with an offence, is ill or has died, or any of the other valid reasons. It is a political scam of Farage v the "Establishment" to feed the significant paranoid base who believe the world is controlled by a mystical elite cabal.

Had he waited for the Standards Committee to report and, if found guilty of committing a breach, resigned and stood, I would support your view.

However, he has protested his innocence but then acted as if guilty. He has voluntarily put on his fluorescent jacket and joined the ranks of those picking litter for community service before any court has ordered it.

Why should the other parties feed this political victim-building stunt?

And what makes this all the odder is I suspect his protestation of innocence is well made. He has been silly but not dishonest. Had he cooperated fully with the Committee, received vindication and let this blow over, it would have been chip wrap years before the next general election.

Farage or rather reform has said that the standards committee will take until September at least to decide if he is guilty of any offence or not . Which means another 3-4 months of free ammo for the other parties with regard every comment on Reform /Farage being accompanied with #£5 million .

The maximum 'sentence' is that he gets chucked out on his ear from Westminster and a by-election is called .
Farage has decided to bring that forward for the reasons stated above . If Farage is eventually found to be in breach of the code I'm not sure what punishment they would hand down if he has been just re-elected ??
Beside that if the dustbin does win I would look forward to it being sworn in in the middle of the halls of Westminster for all the world to see . What better way to show the state of British politics .

 

[Spiderman]

They're going to have to free up some prison space if they arrest everyone who's been threatening Farage. Will presumably wipe out the Green membership.

Hopefully

 

[cryrst]

Farage or rather reform has said that the standards committee will take until September at least to decide if he is guilty of any offence or not . Which means another 3-4 months of free ammo for the other parties with regard every comment on Reform /Farage being accompanied with #£5 million .

The maximum 'sentence' is that he gets chucked out on his ear from Westminster and a by-election is called .
Farage has decided to bring that forward for the reasons stated above . If Farage is eventually found to be in breach of the code I'm not sure what punishment they would hand down if he has been just re-elected ??
Beside that if the dustbin does win I would look forward to it being sworn in in the middle of the halls of Westminster for all the world to see . What better way to show the state of British politics .

Never thought of that and yes imagine the world seeing him in parliament. With the majority labour have not sending a forlorn hope as a minimum just to save a few bad headlines.

 

[silvertop]

Farage or rather reform has said that the standards committee will take until September at least to decide if he is guilty of any offence or not . Which means another 3-4 months of free ammo for the other parties with regard every comment on Reform /Farage being accompanied with #£5 million .

The maximum 'sentence' is that he gets chucked out on his ear from Westminster and a by-election is called .
Farage has decided to bring that forward for the reasons stated above . If Farage is eventually found to be in breach of the code I'm not sure what punishment they would hand down if he has been just re-elected ??
Beside that if the dustbin does win I would look forward to it being sworn in in the middle of the halls of Westminster for all the world to see . What better way to show the state of British politics .

Most of that period will be summer recess.

And if he beats the dustbin and the committee finds against him there may be a further by election.

That would be an abuse of process to support what is a crass and disingenuous stunt.

 

[DanH]

What's the point?

You mean democracy?

Maybe you're right, just not in the fashion you meant.

Haven’t you lost faith in democracy?

 

[Stirlingsays]

Haven’t you lost faith in democracy?

Your comment more shows you have.

My position is that democracy has always been part myth.

I know that money/power and non democratic institutions hold the most power.

You can vote for who you like.....the policies don't change much.....just the language.

When a real threat comes along that might change something.....the kitchen sink is thrown.

 

[DanH]

Your comment more shows you have.

My position is that democracy has always been part myth.

I know that money/power and non democratic institutions hold the most power.

You can vote for who you like.....the policies don't change much.....just the language.

When a real threat comes along that might change something.....the kitchen sink is thrown.

What do you mean by ‘kitchen sink’? Stop talking in barely disguised euphemisms and just admit you want full on race riots lad.

 

[Stirlingsays]

What do you mean by ‘kitchen sink’? Stop talking in barely disguised euphemisms and just admit you want full on race riots lad.

I've explained my position on this so many times to you....

You know there's a famous quote on the right about the left....and it fits you very well here.

'It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.'

Regardless, I'll leave you with some happy news about the future...Here from France, but also to come from Germany and here....and where any riots are likely to come from.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2077083897674830114

 

[DanH]

I've explained my position on this so many times to you....

You know there's a famous quote on the right about the left....and it fits you very well here.

'It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.'

Regardless, I'll leave you with some happy news about the future...Here from France, but also to come from Germany and here....and where any riots are likely to come from.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2077083897674830114

Explained it but never explained *how*.

So go on then big boy, how are you deporting millions? ‘Millions’ is it at least 2% of the population. One in 50 people. How are you doing this? All you’ve said is ‘it won’t be pretty’. You need to explain the how if you want your policies to be taken seriously.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Explained it but never explained *how*.

So go on then big boy, how are you deporting millions? ‘Millions’ is it at least 2% of the population. One in 50 people. How are you doing this? All you’ve said is ‘it won’t be pretty’. You need to explain the how if you want your policies to be taken seriously.

Errrr....How?

Am I being paid or something? Paid to tell you how to suck eggs? I'd happily work out how to do it, well I don't even have to work it out all the thinking has already been done.....It's done all over the world by the way. One of our apparent favourite countries to import people from Pakistan only recently deported millions of Afghans.....but apparently I'm meant to tell you how.

We change or delete several of the acts that Blair imposed on the country, EU and UN rules on immigration are also thrown out but as the Europe elects the right in Germany and France this will be far easier than now.

 

[DanH]

Errrr....How?

Am I being paid or something? Paid to tell you how to suck eggs? I'd happily work out how to do it, well I don't even have to work it out all the thinking has already been done.....It's done all over the world by the way. One of our apparent favourite countries to import people from Pakistan only recently deported millions of Afghans.....but apparently I'm meant to tell you how.

We change or delete several of the acts that Blair imposed on the country, EU and UN rules on immigration are also thrown out but as the Europe elects the right in Germany and France this will be far easier than now.

You literally have no idea how to deport 2% of the population then.

You’re all pie in the sky ideas. It’s all well and good saying you *will* do something. Until you explain *how* you cannot be taken seriously.

 

[Stirlingsays]

You literally have no idea how to deport 2% of the population then.

You’re all pie in the sky ideas. It’s all well and good saying you *will* do something. Until you explain *how* you cannot be taken seriously.

I have literally just told you.

I also literally gave you an example.

Do you even read? Or if not?

Once again for people reading this weird exchange I will repeat the famous meme.

'It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.'

 

[DanH]

I have literally just told you.

I also literally gave you an example.

Do you even read? Or if not?

Once again for people reading this weird exchange I will repeat the famous meme.

'It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.'

You didn’t explain any of the how whatsoever.

How are you deporting 2% of the population from *this* country?

For people reading this weird exchange let it be noted that this man has nothing in the terms of practicality. Just bedroom hard ons for mass deportations and no idea how. Or if he does, not enough balls to say it in public.