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DanH said:
This is another misconception. Why would I want to damage an already difficult economy I’m trying to work in?

Genuinely, Brexit has been the biggest blocker in us trying to do business other than Covid in the last decade. You voted for Brexit didn’t you?
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Here we go, everything is the fault of Brexit. Ten years on and it is all the fault of Brexit, What on earth would you blame without Brexit. Of course I voted for Brexit, I wanted to live in a democracy.
 
georgenorman said:
Here we go, everything is the fault of Brexit. Ten years on and it is all the fault of Brexit, What on earth would you blame without Brexit. Of course I voted for Brexit, I wanted to live in a democracy.
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You realise both things can be true at once don’t you?

Yes we got more autonomy but it’s made the trading environment way more difficult for many businesses. And still is a decade later.
 
DanH said:
You realise both things can be true at once don’t you?

Yes we got more autonomy but it’s made the trading environment way more difficult for many businesses. And still is a decade later.
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What proportion of economic problems are down to Brexit rather than other factors such as global pandemics, various wars, the world economy and incompetent government?
 
georgenorman said:
What proportion of economic problems are down to Brexit rather than other factors such as global pandemics, various wars, the world economy and incompetent government?
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And speak to any business trying to import and export into and out of the EU and ask if they find it easier 10 years on.
 
DanH said:
And speak to any business trying to import and export into and out of the EU and ask if they find it easier 10 years on.
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Ask any business trying to import and export into and out of non-EU countries.
 
DanH said:
6-8% GDP. Acording to the famously government influenced Stanford university.

The Economic Impact of Brexit

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The other factors we couldn’t control. Brexit was taking a shotgun to our own foot.
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Incompetent government is outside of our control? Hysterical reaction to Covid was outside of our control? Our stance on wars is outside of our control? The restrictions of being in the EU was a factor we couldn't control.
 
Spindle said:
6% of GDP is the calculation.

20% loss in the value of sterling too

These are undeniable and economic
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It is not possible to arrive at any accurate figures for these things as there are so many factors over a long period of time to be taken into account, it is merely opinion and political point scoring.
 
DanH said:
6-8% GDP. Acording to the famously government influenced Stanford university.

The Economic Impact of Brexit

Other
siepr.stanford.edu siepr.stanford.edu

The other factors we couldn’t control. Brexit was taking a shotgun to our own foot.
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This is a very subjective report, Reeves quoted 8% at the City speech, 8% is actually the worst case doomsday scenario in the report.

Proper economists agree that Covid and the Ukrainian war make it impossible to have an objective view on the economic impact of Brexit but there are subjective partisan opinions evrywhere.
 
HKOwen said:
This is a very subjective report, Reeves quoted 8% at the City speech, 8% is actually the worst case doomsday scenario in the report.

Proper economists agree that Covid and the Ukrainian war make it impossible to have an objective view on the economic impact of Brexit but there are subjective partisan opinions evrywhere.
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Can you cite some of these ‘proper’ economists, Owen?
 
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