Israel v Hamas

None of them have been sentenced yet you massive whopper.

Your semi calmed down from innocent Africans being burnt out their house yet?

Ok I look forward to the tweets then, you simping misandrist. Several have been sentenced in Southampton though, where are the tweets?

You t*** Dan.
 
The ones who all pleaded guilty to the crimes they committed?

FAFO, right?
Well, it's a bit like the Moscow State Trials, what's the point in pleading innocent?
 
What is the plea to do with it? I thought you didn't care about actual verdicts and went by the traditional left wing justice

1. There's an accusation
A You don't like the accused - GUILTY
B. You do like the accused - IT'S NOT PROVEN
 
What is the plea to do with it? I thought you didn't care about actual verdicts and went by the traditional left wing justice

1. There's an accusation
A You don't like the accused - GUILTY
B. You do like the accused - IT'S NOT PROVEN

When rape is such a difficult thing to prove one way or the other I tend to believe women when there are multiple of them accusing the same person of the same thing.

Shouldn’t you question why you don’t believe them?
 
I believe neither because that's up to the court to decide, it's not up to me from reading some article online. Incredible that you don't get that. Looks like my points above were correct.
 
What is the plea to do with it? I thought you didn't care about actual verdicts and went by the traditional left wing justice

1. There's an accusation
A You don't like the accused - GUILTY
B. You do like the accused - IT'S NOT PROVEN


Pretty much how every palace fan treats lewis dunk even tho he was cleared of sexual assault a few years ago.
 
When rape is such a difficult thing to prove one way or the other I tend to believe women when there are multiple of them accusing the same person of the same thing.

Shouldn’t you question why you don’t believe them?
I'm glad we weren't on the same Sexual Assault jury we may have come to blows.

I go by the evidence and even if I suspect they are guilty the evidence must support that. Suspicion is not a reason to find someone guilty.*

There is an argument about changing the presumption of innocence and moving to a European style "search for truth". However if we ever did that it must be across the board and not for selected crimes.

*Rape is a difficult crime to prove. However if a bank claimed that I robbed them you would not take their word over mine you would expect the bank / police to provide evidence.
 
I'm glad we weren't on the same Sexual Assault jury we may have come to blows.

I go by the evidence and even if I suspect they are guilty the evidence must support that. Suspicion is not a reason to find someone guilty.*

There is an argument about changing the presumption of innocence and moving to a European style "search for truth". However if we ever did that it must be across the board and not for selected crimes.

*Rape is a difficult crime to prove. However if a bank claimed that I robbed them you would not take their word over mine you would expect the bank / police to provide evidence.

There’s a huge difference between believing someone and having cast iron proof that something like rape actually happened. I would have been of the same mind as you if I was on that trial.
 
While on the topic of rape and Hamas. Here's some reports of what the Israeli hostages went through which included rape and sexual assault:





And here's a green party member denying women were raped:

 
I'm glad we weren't on the same Sexual Assault jury we may have come to blows.

I go by the evidence and even if I suspect they are guilty the evidence must support that. Suspicion is not a reason to find someone guilty.*

There is an argument about changing the presumption of innocence and moving to a European style "search for truth". However if we ever did that it must be across the board and not for selected crimes.

*Rape is a difficult crime to prove. However if a bank claimed that I robbed them you would not take their word over mine you would expect the bank / police to provide evidence.
Excellent post, i have been on jury service and it provided a wealth of knowledge and lots of respect for the judge who was firm, fair and did not like sloppiness from anyone.
 
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Property fairs and Estate Agents in Israel now openly selling land and vacated Palestinian properties in Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem. Theft and population displacement, of those that survived, or not.
Links are difficult, but not impossible to find. There has been a concerted effort to stop these events being recorded and are not publicised in the media.

No, no - remember we have been told for years this is purely about self-defence. There was no ethnic cleansing of the land, this is just purely coincidence.

Much more important we focus on pensioners being arrested in the U.K. for holding inoffensive placards… that’s the real story of course.

Interesting how many of the free speech champions are so comfortable with it - not even a half arsed ‘two tier’ reference.

Principles are inconvenient I guess.
 
Quotes from Trump:


“You don’t have to knock down an entire apartment building every time you’re looking for somebody, because there are a lot of people who live in those apartments and they are not all Hezbollah.”


I can’t believe he is now also an antisemite - criticising the poor Israelis for bombing whole neighbourhoods in Lebanon. He clearly doesn’t realise that they use human shields! That would obviously justify it!

He clearly hates Jews.
 
Quotes from Trump:


“You don’t have to knock down an entire apartment building every time you’re looking for somebody, because there are a lot of people who live in those apartments and they are not all Hezbollah.”


I can’t believe he is now also an antisemite - criticising the poor Israelis for bombing whole neighbourhoods in Lebanon. He clearly doesn’t realise that they use human shields! That would obviously justify it!

He clearly hates Jews.
He didn't say the same about Gaza though. Lebanon didn't do the October attacks. It may have sounded like an off the cuff remark but clearly the USA is warning Israel off of Lebanon. But nothing about Palestine.
 

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