Immigration

[Wisbech Eagle]

Dan h and wissie will cover it with their immigrant love in being so powerful.

I have no more a “love in” with those who are immigrants than those who aren’t.

I treat everyone as fairly and objectively as I can.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Yes.

I heard an interview with the lady responsible for drawing up the quoted guidance who said it was being taken out of context. She ought to know. She wrote it.

Police chiefs, the Prime Minister, and legal commentators defend the guidance, stating that the documents are taken out of context. They argue that "equity" does not mean treating demographics differently, but rather recognizing that different communities face unique challenges and require tailored policing to ensure everyone receives equal justice and protection. Which is a good summary of what the author said too.

Successive governments and Chief Constables vehemently deny that a "two-tier" system exists in law. They argue that attacking the institution stokes racial division and undermines the hard work of officers who respond impartially to thousands of daily incidents.

Opponents and the grieving families involved in these high-profile tragedies have accused politicians of selectively using specific incidents and out-of-context documents to inflame public rage for political gain.

People like Farage and Lowe are being offered a way to tone down the rhetoric and find common ground in trying to heal the divisions they have helped create. It has been acknowledged that the wording in the guidance could be better so is being reviewed with the intention of clarifying it. Badenoch, to her credit, has already done so.

Perhaps some here could learn something from her?

Read it yourself.

 

[cryrst]

I have no more a “love in” with those who are immigrants than those who aren’t.

I treat everyone as fairly and objectively as I can.

Unless it’s trump, TR or anti immigrant protesters. Yup rog over and out !

 

[Living In Hope]

Yes.

I heard an interview with the lady responsible for drawing up the quoted guidance who said it was being taken out of context. She ought to know. She wrote it.

Police chiefs, the Prime Minister, and legal commentators defend the guidance, stating that the documents are taken out of context. They argue that "equity" does not mean treating demographics differently, but rather recognizing that different communities face unique challenges and require tailored policing to ensure everyone receives equal justice and protection. Which is a good summary of what the author said too.

Successive governments and Chief Constables vehemently deny that a "two-tier" system exists in law. They argue that attacking the institution stokes racial division and undermines the hard work of officers who respond impartially to thousands of daily incidents.

Opponents and the grieving families involved in these high-profile tragedies have accused politicians of selectively using specific incidents and out-of-context documents to inflame public rage for political gain.

People like Farage and Lowe are being offered a way to tone down the rhetoric and find common ground in trying to heal the divisions they have helped create. It has been acknowledged that the wording in the guidance could be better so is being reviewed with the intention of clarifying it. Badenoch, to her credit, has already done so.

Perhaps some here could learn something from her?

There are 2 things I would say about the tragedy of Henry Nowak. Firstly I genuinely think it is being misused / misinterpreted, as the incident itself has nothing to do with the current immigration issue which is so deeply affecting the nation. Instead it appears to be a simple case of a nasty, knife-obsessed individual murdering an innocent young man.

It is not that difficult to understand the initial attitude of the police when they were told they were being called to a racist incident. However, what it has exposed, and what I am surprised you don't acknowledge here, is that this guidance quite clearly states that it is fine for the police to treat people differently based on their ethnicity. And implicitly that it is fine for the police to treat the majority worse because of their lack of "protected characteristics". The same thinking pervades our society - discrimination is not only permitted but actively encouraged, most commonly against white men.

This is in a country which has led the world in terms of its acceptance of other cultures, ethnicities and ways of living, and as a result a lot of people like myself, who are part of the traditional majority, have had enough of the narrative that the country is racist and bigoted and with a shameful heritage. I and many like me are genuinely angry about what is going on. "Stop being divisive !" shout the left - well discriminating against the majority is the source of the division and the anger, not a solution to it.

 

[cryrst]

There are 2 things I would say about the tragedy of Henry Nowak. Firstly I genuinely think it is being misused / misinterpreted, as the incident itself has nothing to do with the current immigration issue which is so deeply affecting the nation. Instead it appears to be a simple case of a nasty, knife-obsessed individual murdering an innocent young man.

It is not that difficult to understand the initial attitude of the police when they were told they were being called to a racist incident. However, what it has exposed, and what I am surprised you don't acknowledge here, is that this guidance quite clearly states that it is fine for the police to treat people differently based on their ethnicity. And implicitly that it is fine for the police to treat the majority worse because of their lack of "protected characteristics". The same thinking pervades our society - discrimination is not only permitted but actively encouraged, most commonly against white men.

This is in a country which has led the world in terms of its acceptance of other cultures, ethnicities and ways of living, and as a result a lot of people like myself, who are part of the traditional majority, have had enough of the narrative that the country is racist and bigoted and with a shameful heritage. I and many like me are genuinely angry about what is going on. "Stop being divisive !" shout the left - well discriminating against the majority is the source of the division and the anger, not a solution to it.

Good post but wissie is colour blind. He thinks we are all the same. Albeit his Floyd and trump posts do actually include colour so it’s a bit selective 🤔

 

[johnny the eagle]

We should never change our way of life, customs, traditions, etc., for anything or anyone ever, and why should we? This is Britain, our country. I served in the Army, my old man fought throughout the whole of WW2 in the Royal Navy. Part of our service was to preserve our way of life for us and future generations, culture, traditions, customs, etc. If people don't like that or our way of life, etc., etc., tough, they have a choice they are free to make that choice. My choice was to stick with the country I was born and bred in, Britain.

 

[eaglesdare]

There are 2 things I would say about the tragedy of Henry Nowak. Firstly I genuinely think it is being misused / misinterpreted, as the incident itself has nothing to do with the current immigration issue which is so deeply affecting the nation. Instead it appears to be a simple case of a nasty, knife-obsessed individual murdering an innocent young man.

It is not that difficult to understand the initial attitude of the police when they were told they were being called to a racist incident. However, what it has exposed, and what I am surprised you don't acknowledge here, is that this guidance quite clearly states that it is fine for the police to treat people differently based on their ethnicity. And implicitly that it is fine for the police to treat the majority worse because of their lack of "protected characteristics". The same thinking pervades our society - discrimination is not only permitted but actively encouraged, most commonly against white men.

This is in a country which has led the world in terms of its acceptance of other cultures, ethnicities and ways of living, and as a result a lot of people like myself, who are part of the traditional majority, have had enough of the narrative that the country is racist and bigoted and with a shameful heritage. I and many like me are genuinely angry about what is going on. "Stop being divisive !" shout the left - well discriminating against the majority is the source of the division and the anger, not a solution to it.

While you have made a good post with some good points. I disagree with you here. While the killer was a "British born" he was born to an immigrant parent. This is a secondary problem we are seeing. Where immigrant offsprings are also causing trouble and not respecting the law of the land. It's the same with the Southport killer. His parents were immigrants.

We expect when immigrants come to live in the country they behave themselves and instill a good standard to their children. The mother herself (immigrant) was complicit in this aswell. Did she not take the weapon and hide it? (Surely in that time she could have called for an ambulance?)

If we had stricter immigration laws then perhaps the children in Southport might still be alive and so would Henry Nowak?

 

[beak]

We should never change our way of life, customs, traditions, etc., for anything or anyone ever, and why should we? This is Britain, our country. I served in the Army, my old man fought throughout the whole of WW2 in the Royal Navy. Part of our service was to preserve our way of life for us and future generations, culture, traditions, customs, etc. If people don't like that or our way of life, etc., etc., tough, they have a choice they are free to make that choice. My choice was to stick with the country I was born and bred in, Britain.

By jingo nice to have a god laugh at small minded xenophobia early in the morning how is Corporal Jones do they still not like it up 'em, they have invented the aeroplane and the world is now a village.

 

[johnny the eagle]

By jingo nice to have a god laugh at small minded xenophobia early in the morning how is Corporal Jones do they still not like it up 'em, they have invented the aeroplane and the world is now a village.

Nice to have a " god " laugh, is it you can't even spell, by jingo. And a bit of sarcasm the lowest form of wit. Also, it's just the kind of disrespectful reply I expected from a nobody.

 

[Spindle]

Any evidence for any of these assertions?

His opinion IS evidence that trumps everything.

 

[Spindle]

I have no more a “love in” with those who are immigrants than those who aren’t.

I treat everyone as fairly and objectively as I can.

Like Henry, who in your mind was correctly treated by well trained police officers

 

[Spindle]

We should never change our way of life, customs, traditions, etc., for anything or anyone ever, and why should we? This is Britain, our country. I served in the Army, my old man fought throughout the whole of WW2 in the Royal Navy. Part of our service was to preserve our way of life for us and future generations, culture, traditions, customs, etc. If people don't like that or our way of life, etc., etc., tough, they have a choice they are free to make that choice. My choice was to stick with the country I was born and bred in, Britain.

White people are the only people not allowed a culture or our own countries according to the left wing dickheads.

 

[Spindle]

By jingo nice to have a god laugh at small minded xenophobia early in the morning how is Corporal Jones do they still not like it up 'em, they have invented the aeroplane and the world is now a village.

There you go as I said. The left are disgusted by white culture, by British culture and mock it, yet are happy to live and enjoy the comforts it created. Meanwhile they promote and protect foreign customs and cultures despite what s*** holes in the world created them.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

His opinion IS evidence that trumps everything.

Careful, the Trumpeter is like Beetlejuice. That's one mention - two to go.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

White people are the only people not allowed a culture or our own countries according to the left wing dickheads.

The French are a bit conflicted on the issue. Protect the language but embrace other cultures.

Clickbait and podcasts: France frowns on English words

The French language enrichment commission announces a new list of alternatives to English terms.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Jordan555x]

Total nonsense. You are another responding to the dog whistle being blown by people like Farage and Lowe.

As I explained a while back in this thread the guidance that has been quoted has been taken out of context and misrepresented. It is not intended to provide priorities to any section of society. It’s intended to ensure the opposite, that everyone gets treated fairly and on merit.

The guidance is about recognising that people’s needs are different so, to ensure fairness, different approaches are needed. It applies to all, whether they are victims, witnesses or perpetrators. It’s understanding that their experience and knowledge may vary so a variety of techniques are needed too. Checking phones for evidence is standard procedure. It helps eliminate false accusations every bit as much as confirm genuine ones.

They are reviewing the language in the guidance, to avoid any possibility of misunderstanding. Not the guidance itself, for which no review or apology is necessary.

So why did they need to go through his dad's phone? Henry Nowak's dad had nothing to do with the incident, it is absolutely preposterous to suggest otherwise. They didn't check his sister's phone or his mother's phone. No, they wanted his dad's phone so they could find justification, in their minds if they find any shred of evidence of racism between two white men, they were justified in handcuffing Henry Nowak. They targeted the dad because they know if they did find something on the dad left wing nutters like you would lap it up like dogs dinner. The motivation for such an invasion of privacy is plainly obvious for everyone to see but yourself.

 

[Spindle]

The BBC gaslighting us on immigration

"Oh look a scared immigrant who wants to fit in, a pretty young woman"

Shropshire woman taking citizenship test over her fears over her future immigration status

Cristina says the political climate gives her a sense of urgency to secure her future.

www.bbc.co.uk

Get stuffed BBC, these absolutely aren't the immigrants that people are so pissed off with. For everyone one of her there are 1000 young Muslim men here for very different reasons

 

[ASCPFC]

The BBC gaslighting us on immigration

"Oh look a scared immigrant who wants to fit in, a pretty young woman"

Shropshire woman taking citizenship test over her fears over her future immigration status

Cristina says the political climate gives her a sense of urgency to secure her future.

www.bbc.co.uk

Get stuffed BBC, these absolutely aren't the immigrants that people are so pissed off with. For everyone one of her there are 1000 young Muslim men here for very different reasons

Whole story is just made up in her and the BBCs head.

 

[Jordan555x]

The BBC gaslighting us on immigration

"Oh look a scared immigrant who wants to fit in, a pretty young woman"

Shropshire woman taking citizenship test over her fears over her future immigration status

Cristina says the political climate gives her a sense of urgency to secure her future.

www.bbc.co.uk

Get stuffed BBC, these absolutely aren't the immigrants that people are so pissed off with. For everyone one of her there are 1000 young Muslim men here for very different reasons

The fact that the BBC choose her to be the face of the article just shows how woefully out of touch the BBC is with the general population of the UK. The general population are not concerned one iota about the South East Asian immigration.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

The BBC gaslighting us on immigration

"Oh look a scared immigrant who wants to fit in, a pretty young woman"

Shropshire woman taking citizenship test over her fears over her future immigration status

Cristina says the political climate gives her a sense of urgency to secure her future.

www.bbc.co.uk

Get stuffed BBC, these absolutely aren't the immigrants that people are so pissed off with. For everyone one of her there are 1000 young Muslim men here for very different reasons

MPs might reconsider their opinion when hundreds of politicians turn up to take their jobs.