Next manager poll

Next manager (latest odds)

  • Thomas Frank 5/1

  • Roger Schmidt 8/1

  • Roberto Martinez 10/1

  • Jose Bordalas 10/1

  • Southgate 10/1

  • Frank Lampard 12/1

  • Kieran Mckenna 12/1

  • Brendan Rodgers 14/1

  • Sean Dyche 12/1

  • Robbie Keane

  • Andoni Iraola 4-1

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Lanzo-Ad said:
I am going to make a case for Frank, we can forget Brentford, I can’t believe anyone can say he wasn’t good there, Spurs, they were 14th when he was sacked, a normal Palace season, they had over 12 players out injured, and the squad wasn’t anywhere as good as Palaces squad, he has European experience, so he has a taste of the toughness of 2 games a week for most of the season, I can’t see anything wrong with him coming in, as Iraola, everyone’s favorite seems out of contention. Spurs you must remember haven’t got a clue, having sacked Potchettino, Mourinho and Conte, 3 of the finest mangers of the last ten years.
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I certainly wouldn't hold his time at spurs against Frank. That place is a dysfunctional pressure cooker. My concern would simply be that the players may be underwhelmed by anyone who hasn't worked at a higher level than they are used to, or won something. Frank, Dyche, McKenna have all only managed at the lower to mid end of the premier league. They might all be better managers than the likes of Toppmoller. In fact, I tend to give more credit to overachievers at smaller clubs like them than to anyone else, but right at this very moment I wonder if the players (and maybe the board) want someone they can continue the dream with.
 
Charliestevens150304 said:
Why do they want us to play 442 when we cant even work a 5 at the back 😭😭 we have the worst Goal difference apart from the bottem 3 . Going to a 442 would be horrible considering we're basically a counter attacking playstyle 😬 we'd get slaughted if we go to 442 tbh . I reckon anyway
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Our goal difference is more to do with not scoring, we had 3rd most clean sheets and 3rd best defence
 
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TheBigToePunt said:
As others have said, odds change based on betting patterns more than calculated likelihood, the latter being difficult to establish I presume.

The thing that I always wondered was, what possesses people to bet on a teams next manager? I mean, as much as gambling is a fools game in any circumstances, at least if you're betting on Team A to beat Team B you can base it on stuff you know to be true, like form, tactics, injuries etc.

I have set out what I think the club's thinking might be regarding the next manager, but it's not like I'm basing it on tangible evidence in the same way I would if I was betting on a match.

Why on earth does anyone take a punt on this? I presume the bookies will only allow tiny wagers for fear of inside knowledge, and that it's just a 'fun' bet? If so, seems unlikely to reveal much.
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So these markets are actually losers from the bookies generally, because they'll typically take bets at decent odds when 'info' leaks which is why they will hurry to shorten them as soon as they see a few bets come in for a particular manager.

For example, Jose Bordalas is currently 20/1 but if some ITK journo claimed he's on our list, you'd immediately get a flurry of bets on those odds which would trigger a liability alarm in the office and he'd quickly go 3/1 or shorter. As we've seen, in the last few days Iraola, Lampard, Toppmoller and Sage have all been favourites at different points.

From a betting perspective, if you know which journalists are reliable and which just talk nonsense (most of them), you could make money if you are quick enough but it's hard because it really doesn't take much to move the odds so it's fastest finger first.

The reason they persist with those markets despite them not being very profitable is that they're quite good for marketing and it gives them things to talk about on social media, blogs and if their PR person gets invited on SSN or Talksport or something to discuss the latest odds.

To reiterate from my earlier posts though, nobody should ever use the bookies as an indicator of knowledge. They know less than us and just react to the bets.
 
TheBigToePunt said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Crystal Palace: Pierre Sage to hold talks with club over vacant manager position

Lens manager Pierre Sage is set to hold talks with Crystal Palace as the Premier League club look to appoint Oliver Glasner's replacement.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Sage....
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Maybe he is and maybe he isn't? Time will tell.

This is such a w**k opinion to hold but I really would prefer an up and coming European boss opposed to some stalwart PL manager where you know what you'll get, which'll probably mean safety in the PL, but not much else.

I know FdB, Vieira etc. haven't exactly gone well but after Glasner I'm optimistic again. Sage won the French Cup with Lens and perhaps he may be well suited to our European exploits?
 
Nicholas91 said:
Maybe he is and maybe he isn't? Time will tell.

This is such a w**k opinion to hold but I really would prefer an up and coming European boss opposed to some stalwart PL manager where you know what you'll get, which'll probably mean safety in the PL, but not much else.

I know FdB, Vieira etc. haven't exactly gone well but after Glasner I'm optimistic again. Sage won the French Cup with Lens and perhaps he may be well suited to our European exploits?
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Lol - it’s not a w*** opinion at all and many (me included) agree with you. Sages win percentage is insane. He knows how to win.
 
Nicholas91 said:
Maybe he is and maybe he isn't? Time will tell.

This is such a w**k opinion to hold but I really would prefer an up and coming European boss opposed to some stalwart PL manager where you know what you'll get, which'll probably mean safety in the PL, but not much else.

I know FdB, Vieira etc. haven't exactly gone well but after Glasner I'm optimistic again. Sage won the French Cup with Lens and perhaps he may be well suited to our European exploits?
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If so let's hope he knows his onions and we can give everybody a right good stuffing.
 
Nicholas91 said:
Maybe he is and maybe he isn't? Time will tell.

This is such a w**k opinion to hold but I really would prefer an up and coming European boss opposed to some stalwart PL manager where you know what you'll get, which'll probably mean safety in the PL, but not much else.

I know FdB, Vieira etc. haven't exactly gone well but after Glasner I'm optimistic again. Sage won the French Cup with Lens and perhaps he may be well suited to our European exploits?
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And is very likely to have knowledge of players in France and Europe that a PL Manager (or an EFL manager for that matter) would not know about. When Glasner joined we had just bought Munoz (probably no coincidence), then bought Lacroix and acquired Kamada. I would much prefer this appointment (and all appointments have a risk attached) than a current PL or EFL manager.
 
park the bus said:
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Alan Pardew returns for a second stint either. He has been seen seated by Steve Parish, he's got to be 250/1.
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Pardew hasn't been employed as a manager anywhere, for over 3 years.

There is an obvious reason, why.
 
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Canterbury Palace said:
So these markets are actually losers from the bookies generally, because they'll typically take bets at decent odds when 'info' leaks which is why they will hurry to shorten them as soon as they see a few bets come in for a particular manager.

For example, Jose Bordalas is currently 20/1 but if some ITK journo claimed he's on our list, you'd immediately get a flurry of bets on those odds which would trigger a liability alarm in the office and he'd quickly go 3/1 or shorter. As we've seen, in the last few days Iraola, Lampard, Toppmoller and Sage have all been favourites at different points.

From a betting perspective, if you know which journalists are reliable and which just talk nonsense (most of them), you could make money if you are quick enough but it's hard because it really doesn't take much to move the odds so it's fastest finger first.

The reason they persist with those markets despite them not being very profitable is that they're quite good for marketing and it gives them things to talk about on social media, blogs and if their PR person gets invited on SSN or Talksport or something to discuss the latest odds.

To reiterate from my earlier posts though, nobody should ever use the bookies as an indicator of knowledge. They know less than us and just react to the bets.
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Sami Mokbel is a trusted journalist.🙂 👍
 
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