Teddy Eagle
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Because he's a fat faced crook?
Glasner is a Glazier....Our best manager ever ?
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Part Time James
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
Teddy Eagle
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Shows a lack of restraint over a thin faced crook.
For those too young to remember, Coppell took players from Greenwich, Crewe, Yeovil, Dulwich Hamlet and Plymouth , got them promoted to the Premier League equivalent ,took the team to 6 minutes from a Cup Final Win and into a Champions League position ( cruelly denied us).
Incredible achievements.
To those who say ‘ah but Glasner actually won the FA Cup’ it would be equally valid to retort that ‘ah but Coppell actually took us to third in the Premier League equivalent and in to a Champions League position.’
Bear in mind that Coppell also similarly took unfancied Reading into the top 8 of the Premier League equivalent.
From my standpoint they are both great managers and I’m going to sit on the fence and say they both deserve the accolade of our greatest ever manager.
Incredible achievements.
To those who say ‘ah but Glasner actually won the FA Cup’ it would be equally valid to retort that ‘ah but Coppell actually took us to third in the Premier League equivalent and in to a Champions League position.’
Bear in mind that Coppell also similarly took unfancied Reading into the top 8 of the Premier League equivalent.
From my standpoint they are both great managers and I’m going to sit on the fence and say they both deserve the accolade of our greatest ever manager.
PalazioVecchio
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we got to Third in the Prem Table with Glasner - early October '25. The sale of Eze, Olise & Guehi was a knife through the heart.....not the fault of Glasner.
For clarification we 'finished ' third in the table under Coppell in the season in question, as opposed to just achieving this position at a random point during the season.
Nowhere have I suggested selling Eze, Olise and Guehi was the 'fault' of Glasner.
I'm sure he'd have loved to have kept them; just as Coppell would like to have retained the likes of Ian Wright.
To reiterate my central point, both Coppell and Glasner have done sterling jobs for the club and have significantly outperformed expectations .
Youve done exactly the same with your post, we never qualified for the champions league, we qualified for the Europa league equivalent.
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In 60 years following Palace, I think there have been four notable periods of management under Bert Head, Malcolm Allison/Terry Venables, Steve Coppell and Oliver Glasner.
There have been a few holding and rescue operations e.g. Roy Hodgson, Steve Kember. A few too many unmitigated disasters - no names to save embarrassment. And, definitely one occasion when, in my opinion, an experienced group of players led by Mile Jedinak brought us back to our present and longest period in the top division.
Who is the best manager? I don’t feel qualified to say. But, Steve Coppell wrote a lovely letter to my mum after she congratulated him for reaching the 1990 FA Cup Final! And, she was made up about that for ages after.
However, to be more objective. . .
For three of the four periods, the managers had the backing and support of their respective chairmen, Arthur Wait, Ron Noades and now, Steve Parish.
So, perhaps, our best Palace memories have been born out of a stable boardroom committed to backing and support for the staff team and players.
13 consecutive years in the Prem has transformed the club financially. However, if we are to move to the next level of potential the development of Selhurst Park has to be realised.
Infrastructure developments, such as the Academy have occurred. But, how to overcome the problem of ‘blooding’ young players in a league where inexperience is targeted by opposition managers has been covered many times by others on this forum.
Nevertheless a player like Rio Cardines looks very confident and able to me. Some more like him would be very welcome additions to the first team squad.
It also bothers me when sleeping giants return to the Prem and stay up. Teams like Leeds and Sunderland have the potential to move forward much quicker than us. And, if the big guys have the financial muscle and clout to outcompete us in the transfer market, that makes finishing higher in the league and staying up more difficult.
Glasner has won us two major trophies and a one-off game against the then champions. However, his dogged commitment to a single style of play will not take us beyond last night’s wonderful achievement. And it, together with last season’s cup success, should be properly celebrated for what they are. On a Palace scale of 1-10, definitely 11. On both occasions, I found myself hugging complete strangers and crying like a baby out of complete joy!
The key now is who Glasner’s successor will be? How quickly they will take up the reins?And, what kind of squad we will have in place for another very long season?
And if he proves a success, I hope I can then add a new name to my favourite Palace managers of all time.
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There have been a few holding and rescue operations e.g. Roy Hodgson, Steve Kember. A few too many unmitigated disasters - no names to save embarrassment. And, definitely one occasion when, in my opinion, an experienced group of players led by Mile Jedinak brought us back to our present and longest period in the top division.
Who is the best manager? I don’t feel qualified to say. But, Steve Coppell wrote a lovely letter to my mum after she congratulated him for reaching the 1990 FA Cup Final! And, she was made up about that for ages after.
However, to be more objective. . .
For three of the four periods, the managers had the backing and support of their respective chairmen, Arthur Wait, Ron Noades and now, Steve Parish.
So, perhaps, our best Palace memories have been born out of a stable boardroom committed to backing and support for the staff team and players.
13 consecutive years in the Prem has transformed the club financially. However, if we are to move to the next level of potential the development of Selhurst Park has to be realised.
Infrastructure developments, such as the Academy have occurred. But, how to overcome the problem of ‘blooding’ young players in a league where inexperience is targeted by opposition managers has been covered many times by others on this forum.
Nevertheless a player like Rio Cardines looks very confident and able to me. Some more like him would be very welcome additions to the first team squad.
It also bothers me when sleeping giants return to the Prem and stay up. Teams like Leeds and Sunderland have the potential to move forward much quicker than us. And, if the big guys have the financial muscle and clout to outcompete us in the transfer market, that makes finishing higher in the league and staying up more difficult.
Glasner has won us two major trophies and a one-off game against the then champions. However, his dogged commitment to a single style of play will not take us beyond last night’s wonderful achievement. And it, together with last season’s cup success, should be properly celebrated for what they are. On a Palace scale of 1-10, definitely 11. On both occasions, I found myself hugging complete strangers and crying like a baby out of complete joy!
The key now is who Glasner’s successor will be? How quickly they will take up the reins?And, what kind of squad we will have in place for another very long season?
And if he proves a success, I hope I can then add a new name to my favourite Palace managers of all time.
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We finished the season third under Coppell which was a Champions League position (or as it was called in those halcyon days 'The European Cup)'.
The only reason we didn't participate the following season was because English clubs were banned.
Palace was totally blameless for the ban.
This is why older fans were so angry about not being allowed to participate in the Europa this past season.
It brought back all the painful memories about how we were previously denied.
For clarification I should add that finishing 3rd in these days is a Champions League position.
There was a time when only the national champions and the previous year's European Cup winners qualified to play in the European Cup.
No third place team back then played in the European cup, you had to win the league, we would have qualified for the uefa cup, runners up only qualified for the European cup after it was rebranded to the champions league a few years after.
I clarified that
You didnt, you tried to make out coppells achievements were greater than they were, we qualified for the Europa league under him.
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This is incorrect on two counts. First, we would/should have qualified for Europe, but not the European Cup. Rather, the UEFA Cup. And second, we were robbed because Liverpool finished second and Palace third. But Liverpool were banned from Europe as a result of Heysel, so their qualification for the UEFA Cup dropped down to Palace in third place. However, AFTER the season was over, with Palace having earned the prize for the reason above, UEFA changed its mind (anyone think money had something to do with it?) and suddenly ended Liverpool's ban early, thereby denying Palace the European place they'd won on the pitch.
As for whether Glasner is our greatest ever manager, personally I'd have to "yes". I think three major trophies won makes it a very short argument because ultimately, that's what it's all about and no other manager in our history has delivered that. In no way does that undermine the Coppell achievements which were sensational both then and now, not to mention Bert Head in 1969 (both periods I lived through) but, simply, Glasner has taken us to the summit of a mountain that even the best of the others have only circled.
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To be fair you ‘corrected’ it after Rikz pointed out accurately that you were wrong.
That's true- clearly others on here have better recall than I do.
It would be more accurate to say that a third place position (which Coppell achieved) would be enough to qualify for a Champions League position these days.
A remarkable achievement from a great manager for us, and not lessened merely through the passage of time.
This does not detract from Glasner's achievements from us.
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For me Coppell Is my greatest palace manager. He gets my vote because of the circumstances in which he achieved success and the way in which he treated the club.
I think back to Bert Head and how well he did to get to the first division for the first time and then I remember our relegation and the massive (at the time) budget he was given that year.
Glasner of course is up there with his trophies. He started from a much stronger base of players and stability than the other 'great' candidates but I wonder what kind of team he will have left us with.
I'll never forgive Venables for the Clive Allen/Kenny Samson saga and Big Mal did great things but also got us relegated to League 3.
I think back to Bert Head and how well he did to get to the first division for the first time and then I remember our relegation and the massive (at the time) budget he was given that year.
Glasner of course is up there with his trophies. He started from a much stronger base of players and stability than the other 'great' candidates but I wonder what kind of team he will have left us with.
I'll never forgive Venables for the Clive Allen/Kenny Samson saga and Big Mal did great things but also got us relegated to League 3.
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I worked with a friend of Kenny Sansom at the time of the transfer, and like quite a few deals at that time, Alan Ball from Arsenal to Southampton comes to mind, I was always led to believe there were issues away from football which influenced Kenny’s departure.
But, he was a great player!
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I’d forgotten about Burley. Can’t think why.
It is lessened through time tho, football was nothing like today back then, especially the English league, go back through the 80s, there were probably about 30 different clubs that finished in the top 5. Still a great achievement but finishing 3rd in the prem today would be a far greater achievement.