Restore Britain.

[Wisbech Eagle]

Except it contradicts and undermines your position.

How does “nobody should be forced to have a political opinion in which he does not believe” contradict or undermine “nobody should be forced to have or express a political opinion in which he does not believe”?

Nobody is being forced to have, or change, any opinion! They are just expected not to allow personal opinions to control business decisions.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

How does “nobody should be forced to have a political opinion in which he does not believe” contradict or undermine “nobody should be forced to have or express a political opinion in which he does not believe”?

Nobody is being forced to have, or change, any opinion! They are just expected not to allow personal opinions to control business decisions.

The bakers disagreed with the opinion so couldn't be forced to express it.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Ok, so Restore Britain get in and they start deporting illegals, which I completely agree with. That's going to take massive effort to get done. How many years would it take. How much man power.

It's just not realistic to think it's going to happen that easily.

Even if we did it easily we are still left with each other here. What's the plan?

Restore Britain won't be some renegade organisation with free will. They will be controlled by the bankers and such as normal. The same dance we will all dance to.

So the enemy of humanity won't change. But we can carry on blaming each other and dividing ourselves, It makes it so much easier for us to be controlled that way.

Uniting with each other is probably too strong a word to use I would agree. I didn't intend it in the same way politicians would. But we certainly should see who the enemy is and he is playing us right now.

As for everything else I'm not blind I can see the world for how it is. I'm just not expecting a saviour to come along a fix it.

A Muslim woman came up to me while I was working a few weeks ago. She started to tell me that she was scared of the British flag. I asked her what's wrong with the flag? She said nothing is, but then pointed at her hijab.

I didn't get angry with her, I just told her that people were using the flag as a show of defiance to how they have seen the country change.

I told her that those people who fly the flag would not be people who wish her harm .

She was perhaps another victim of her conditioning like all of us.

I could have turned around and said - well what about your lot they mean us harm don't they. Then she would have gone away still believing what she did before.

In the end she was the one talking about the money people controlling us. Small acorns and all that

Your idea that the nation has to 'rub along together' and that it could work is far less realistic than Restore gaining power.

As for what Restore might become, we deal in the now, not what you might think happens. If they become another 'Reform', then we deal with that then.....Personally I view Lowe as genuine and I don't see him betraying the British like all the others. But time will show.

I mean what you are talking about with integration never gets beyond 1 in 3 and that was when the numbers were low. Now we have whole parts of the country colonised with non British....whether they were born here or not, they have no loyalty to this country.....a massive downgrade and massive problem.

What you suggest with 'getting on' has never happened in human history when you have big numbers of highly diverse cultures....You always get conflict, the Jews and Muslims being a rather obvious example.....but hey, hope springs eternal with yourself obviously. It goes completely against natural law.....it only works amongst the rich, because they can isolate or integrate at their leisure, with no loss of resources or threat to them....and if they don't like somewhere they can feck off easily.

Besides Restore being a political party is only one aspect. Its purpose is about connections and being a redoubt and trust centre if....or more likely when the worst happens. I know who will and won't stab me in the back.

You stick with Farage.

 

[Mattconrov]

Your idea that the nation has to 'rub along together' and that it could work is far less realistic than Restore gaining power.

As for what Restore might become, we deal in the now, not what you might think happens. If they become another 'Reform', then we deal with that then.....Personally I view Lowe as genuine and I don't see him betraying the British like all the others. But time will show.

I mean what you are talking about with integration never gets beyond 1 in 3 and that was when the numbers were low. Now we have whole parts of the country colonised with non British....whether they were born here or not, they have no loyalty to this country.....a massive downgrade and massive problem.

What you suggest with 'getting on' has never happened in human history when you have big numbers of highly diverse cultures....You always get conflict, the Jews and Muslims being a rather obvious example.....but hey, hope springs eternal with yourself obviously. It goes completely against natural law.....it only works amongst the rich, because they can isolate or integrate at their leisure, with no loss of resources or threat to them....and if they don't like somewhere they can feck off easily.

Besides Restore being a political party is only one aspect. Its purpose is about connections and being a redoubt and trust centre if....or more likely when the worst happens. I know who will and won't stab me in the back.

You stick with Farage.

Fair points I don't generally disagree with.
I'm not sure why I'm being associated with Farage. Although I liked him once upon a time.

I did say in my last message that unity was too strong a word to use. But to a large extent people whoever they are have problems with other people.

My concern with restore is how they will implement the mass return of the illegals. I hope they do it, but it seems to me unrealistic.

Just out of interest what are you hoping restore to do.

I hope they return as many illegals as possible. Plus a stop to boats obviously.
Very little new immigration. Abolish income tax, inherentance tax. Make it far easier for people to own their own homes. Create a government owned bank hopefully destroying the bank cartels.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Fair points I don't generally disagree with.
I'm not sure why I'm being associated with Farage. Although I liked him once upon a time.

I did say in my last message that unity was too strong a word to use. But to a large extent people whoever they are have problems with other people.

My concern with restore is how they will implement the mass return of the illegals. I hope they do it, but it seems to me unrealistic.

Just out of interest what are you hoping restore to do.

I hope they return as many illegals as possible. Plus a stop to boats obviously.
Very little new immigration. Abolish income tax, inherentance tax. Make it far easier for people to own their own homes. Create a government owned bank hopefully destroying the bank cartels.

The way I view Restore is more aligned with my last paragraph and has to do with having connections with like minded people who have loyalty to the nation and want to keep the home nations majority native.....which means stopping and reversing what's happening now.

Will it work?

I don't have an issue with you doubting it works.....I just say what have we to lose? Farage isn't going to feck do all about it that's for sure. ..Just another form of Tory doing the speed limit.... He even has Labour defectors in Reform, he's aiming to be another Thatcher.....some poor imitation...Well, there were good things about Thatcher but ultimately she didn't stop the rot in the country either. Why should I want more of that when there's still a small chance we can actually do something.

Besides I want the connections and I view that as even more important considering the way things are going forward. Every other ethnic group does that and we have to start as well.

Reform are purely political and look like careerists hungry for office.....Restore, actually give a feck about the future beyond their own careers and it's where the young emerging talent is.

 

[georgenorman]

If I was a commercial baker then I would have no difficulty at all in fulfilling such an order.

I oppose Trump and all he is doing but respect the right of others to disagree and argue their case. I wouldn’t eat their cake or help promote it, but I would make it for them if that was my business.

When I owned a nursery I didn’t enquire about the politics of the parents and refuse the business of those I disagreed with. Nor do I enquire about the politics of my tenants. I decide on behaviour alone. Not opinions.

So if you were a builder you would be prepared to build a concentration camp?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

The bakers disagreed with the opinion so couldn't be forced to express it.

They weren’t expressing it! They were asked to use some ingredients on a cake ordered by a customer. The message was never theirs.