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Glasner Out
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I think that ship has sailed. And while it would be an exaggeration to say Glasner has burned his bridges at Palace I'd definitely say they're badly singed!
I think the intelligent amongst us will miss him at certain points in the future when he has gone. Doesn't mean he should stay beyond the end of the season though
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We don't know his motivation / psychology for his history with his previous clubs, and then what has transpired at Palace, yet it can't be denied that he was pivotal in bringing a talented bunch together just long enough to lift silverware, that's in the record books, but why oh why did he have to act out like he did? If the chairman has agreed to your remaining in post despite the fact that it has been understood that you are leaving at the end of the season why then make more fuss and not just keep your mouth shut and leave with your head held high? Ego I suspect.
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In relation to the question posed, I’m sure ego is part other reason.
The results and performances were not he wanted, and some of his interviews were given in an emotional state and the recurring themes were that the board hadn’t heeded his requests about the need for early additions in the right areas and with the requisite ability and also that he wanted to ‘protect the players.’
It could be seen that both points show him in a good light - caring about the players’ welfare, and hinting that the club were less professional than him in their dealings.
Perhaps after his gone at the end of the season the club will give it’s side of the story.
The results and performances were not he wanted, and some of his interviews were given in an emotional state and the recurring themes were that the board hadn’t heeded his requests about the need for early additions in the right areas and with the requisite ability and also that he wanted to ‘protect the players.’
It could be seen that both points show him in a good light - caring about the players’ welfare, and hinting that the club were less professional than him in their dealings.
Perhaps after his gone at the end of the season the club will give it’s side of the story.
I really admired Glasner and always hoped he was going to sign a new contract but for me he should really have either kept his mouth shut about leaving or just resigned at that point. Throwing his toys out the pram really looked like he was just trying to back Parish into a corner and force his own departure. When that didn't happen he tried again, this time criticizing the fans as well. Now he realises his only way out is to walk without a pay off.
His only options now are to do that or knuckle down and try and win the Conference League
His only options now are to do that or knuckle down and try and win the Conference League
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I would imagine and it is just my opinion that he saw the decent players going out the door as having a substantial effect on his chances of pulling a top job once he left Palace. Instead of knuckling down and making the best of what we had he complained to the press, the Board, annoyed the fans and results suffered pretty badly.
His stock has certainly dropped since the height it reached and it will be interesting to see where he ends up, but my guess is it will not be where he was originally hoping for.
His stock has certainly dropped since the height it reached and it will be interesting to see where he ends up, but my guess is it will not be where he was originally hoping for.
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Intelligent among us. Is that the ones who agree with you ?
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With the Guehi situation I have a concern with Parish`s communication to Glasner, why tell him after negotiating with Manchester City for several days? Why not tell him straight away? He then would have had the opportunity to plan for the Sunderland game with and without Guehi, if he chose to continue regardless it would then have been his fault.
It is not the only situation over the last few years where we do not appear to have considered all the possibilities and then fallen foul of reality.
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Your 1st sentence is true, however, your 2nd isn't. Arteta has won 3 trophies. 1x FA Cup & 2x Community Shields.
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I was at the Sunderland game, sat way up above the pitch in a freezing wind, watching the team just capitulate and look totally clueless and unmotivated by the end. To cap it off I then had to read OG’s histrionics on the way home. Sure he could have been better informed about the Guehi sale. But many managers have had to cope with key players breaking down in the pre-match warm-up and missing the game and having to shuffle the team around at the last minute. I won’t forget that in a hurry.
I don't believe that OG wasn't aware of the club's attitude to Guehi. He may not have been aware of the precise details of the negotiations but I bet Parish had told him previously that come the January window Guehi would be sold.
I can only see this season as a great opportunity missed, a chance to push on, which i never thought we would have that chance, that finished in October 2025 when the manager basically said, i don't want to be here anymore, which is when he should have been sacked, from that moment it didn't really matter to him if we got relegated, won the Premiership or whatever, the despicable thing was telling the fans they were going to speak about contracts in late January, its sad that he seemed to treat it as a trial season for his tactics, i can only hope that the new manager has already signed a pre contract agreement and was involved in the winter transfer decisions.
Given we all knew, it was all over the press and we’d come close to selling him in the summer it completely lacks credibility for OG to say he was surprised by Guehi being sold. I can buy the exact timing was up in the air but he was always going to be sold in the January window and OG should have been preparing for that.
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I'm not sure if I follow your line of thought - are you suggesting that the Guehi situation was responsible for Glasner's later behaviour? Or Glasner handing in his notice? Rightly or wrongly Parish has a business to run and the sale of Guehi was aways on the cards, I don't believe Glasner is so naive to not know how the club is run.
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I absolutely disagree with this. At no point did Parish say we would be keeping him for the full season and letting him go on a free. This is a myth largely perpetuated it seems by Glasner himself. If anything Parish was reported as saying on numerous occasions that we could not afford to lose the opportunity of a multi million pound sale for the sake of keeping a player for 5/6 months. Selling Guehi was absolutely the right thing to do and I for one really do not care if Glasner liked it or not.
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There are two strands to the Guehi transfer thread.
The first was Parish's decision to let him join Liverpool late on the last day of the summer transfer window. No replacement had been lined up unless you accept that a Brighton reserve centre back that subsequently failed to secure a place in a poor West Ham defence was a viable solution.
The second was also a question of timing. Glasner had prepared his team for the Sunderland game to include Guehi. Only after that preparation was complete was he told Guehi wouldn't be available to him as he was signing for City a couple of days later.
I'm not being a Glasner apologist here, and I don't condone his behaviour. But I can understand his frustration. Especially in the first scenario.
I don't know how Guehi would have reacted if he hadn't been allowed to leave in January. But I do think he would still have secured a move to a top club this summer if he had stayed.
So we sold him for £20m. That's less than we paid for the underperforming, injury prone Nketiah. It's substantially less than we paid for the anonymous Brennan Johnson.
Put in that context, I would have held Guehi to his contract, foregoing the £20m, and not signed Johnson.
The first was Parish's decision to let him join Liverpool late on the last day of the summer transfer window. No replacement had been lined up unless you accept that a Brighton reserve centre back that subsequently failed to secure a place in a poor West Ham defence was a viable solution.
The second was also a question of timing. Glasner had prepared his team for the Sunderland game to include Guehi. Only after that preparation was complete was he told Guehi wouldn't be available to him as he was signing for City a couple of days later.
I'm not being a Glasner apologist here, and I don't condone his behaviour. But I can understand his frustration. Especially in the first scenario.
I don't know how Guehi would have reacted if he hadn't been allowed to leave in January. But I do think he would still have secured a move to a top club this summer if he had stayed.
So we sold him for £20m. That's less than we paid for the underperforming, injury prone Nketiah. It's substantially less than we paid for the anonymous Brennan Johnson.
Put in that context, I would have held Guehi to his contract, foregoing the £20m, and not signed Johnson.
i think the MG situation was exaggerated by Glasner, mainly due to his frustration over the summer transfer window.
Firstly, he said before the Macc game the players would get 3 days off so they would only have come back on the Wednesday to prepare for the Saturday game.
It was reported MG was signing for Man City on the Thursday so there was still time to react.
As has been mentioned players drop out regularly, sometimes hours before kick off, and a manager needs to react.
I think ultimately his frustrations (mainly justified IMHO) were that Palace had 2 years to get a MG replacement in and other than a young, inexperienced 19 year old, Palace failed to do so. Perhaps in SP's defence getting a like for like replacement was never possible.
Ultimately no one comes out of it with any credit.
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I didn't say Parish said that, nor did I say selling Guehi was the wrong thing to do - I'm just pointing out that it was far from obvious that Guehi would go in January.
It's not remotely a myth - all of the reporting at the time was that the club would likely now keep him to the expiration of his deal, because it was unlikely someone would make a serious offer in January when he would be available for free 6m later.
Marc Guehi's failed Liverpool transfer on dramatic Deadline Day: Views from inside Crystal Palace explained
Sky Sports News Kaveh Solhekol and Rob Dorsett explain the fallout of Marc Guehis failed transfer to Liverpool; Crystal Palace and Liverpool had agreed a £35m deal for the centre-back, but the Eagles ultimately decided not to sell their captain