Empty Seats

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martin2412

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Just got back from today's game, and i was surprised at the number of empty seats in every stand. I haven't seen the official attendance but I'd be surprised if there were 23k there today, although it might be higher because of season tickets being counted.

Thursday's game against Larnaca was even worse. Again I haven't seen the official figure but I've heard it was around 19k.

Possible reasons could be:

Too much football this season.
Poor home form (same again today).
Cost (£40 for the home European games is a pisstake as far as I'm concerned) ?
A possible disconnect because of the managerial situation etc. ?

Perhaps an uplift in capacity isn't needed ?

Thoughts ?
 
martin2412 said:
Just got back from today's game, and i was surprised at the number of empty seats in every stand. I haven't seen the official attendance but I'd be surprised if there were 23k there today, although it might be higher because of season tickets being counted.

Thursday's game against Larnaca was even worse. Again I haven't seen the official figure but I've heard it was around 19k.

Possible reasons could be:

Too much football this season.
Poor home form (same again today).
Cost (£40 for the home European games is a pisstake as far as I'm concerned) ?
A possible disconnect because of the managerial situation etc. ?

Perhaps an uplift in capacity isn't needed ?

Thoughts ?
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Attendances reported :
Larnaca 17,985, Leeds 25,155.

We have played 23 Home games (All competitions) and only won 6 of them.🙄
 
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martin2412 said:
Just got back from today's game, and i was surprised at the number of empty seats in every stand. I haven't seen the official attendance but I'd be surprised if there were 23k there today, although it might be higher because of season tickets being counted.

Thursday's game against Larnaca was even worse. Again I haven't seen the official figure but I've heard it was around 19k.

Possible reasons could be:

Too much football this season.
Poor home form (same again today).
Cost (£40 for the home European games is a pisstake as far as I'm concerned) ?
A possible disconnect because of the managerial situation etc. ?

Perhaps an uplift in capacity isn't needed ?

Thoughts ?
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the weather was awful thursday think that put alot off
 
martin2412 said:
Just got back from today's game, and i was surprised at the number of empty seats in every stand. I haven't seen the official attendance but I'd be surprised if there were 23k there today, although it might be higher because of season tickets being counted.

Thursday's game against Larnaca was even worse. Again I haven't seen the official figure but I've heard it was around 19k.

Possible reasons could be:

Too much football this season.
Poor home form (same again today).
Cost (£40 for the home European games is a pisstake as far as I'm concerned) ?
A possible disconnect because of the managerial situation etc. ?

Perhaps an uplift in capacity isn't needed ?

Thoughts ?
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As a gold member, even if I log on as soon as most home league games go on sale, the best I can get for me and my son is the top of the Arthur. Watching at work on TV today it seems as though I could have picked anywhere if I was able to go today.

Been to several European games and have been able to easily get good seats in the Holmesdale for the last two. Logged on to buy as soon as the Larnaca ones went on sale to gold members and was surprised to see so many available.

There seems to be a general malaise among the fanbase at the moment, even though (on paper) results have improved a bit. The football hasn't been great, especially at home.

I'm sure that if we were smashing teams and playing good football in the conference league £40 would be no problem. Attendances always follow performances/results. If we somehow make our way through I reckon good semi final tickets will be hard to come by because people follow success.

As for the capacity increase I don't know. Throughout the Championship days our core support was always somewhere between 12-16k. I've no idea whether we've actually grown this core during our current (very long) stint in the prem, but there is a waiting list for season tickets so theoretically it should work.
 
And we want to increase our stadium capacity with a new main stand when we can't even fill the one we have.....🤭

Alot of the games these days have empty seats. Not just us. It looks like the average premier league ticket is around £60 and shite football.

Even Liverpool had seats on sale on the day today. That never normally happens.
 
Folk used to turn up and pay on the day if they wanted to watch a game, and not otherwise. In other words, they voted with their feet week by week.

Season tickets have always existed and been better value than paying on the day every week, but only in the modern era have they become the only way you can be assured of getting, let alone affording, to watch games.

That has led to far more season tickets. Then, over time, season tickets have become more and more expensive to the point that they are only decent value compared to matchday tickets, but not otherwise. I think a lot of people keep they season tickets because letting them go has become such a big decision, rather than because they enjoy the games or have hope their team will progress further.

In fact, when you consider how much football is on tv, all the f***ing around with kick off times and days, and most of all, that the team you support can only get so far before the economic closed shop of the league prevents further progress and, for many teams, those economic mismatches influence playing styles to the point it's often a matter of holding out for a point even at home, and the fact so many have committed to a season ticket becomes the only explanation for the high attendances.

I wonder if perhaps that particular bubble is begining to burst?
 
Empty seats rows but my son ,season ticket holder , couldnt get 3 together to fetch his two children .even asked to switch the extra two he got close to the day . His brother and I used the kids seats they hsd our St seats with their dad both had several seats next to us free.

Having got the tickets they changed the ko date.

It was motherering Sunday .

Its a garbage ko time.

We want 3pm saturday ko for majorith games

We want to win at leaat majority home games.

We want shots and goals and entertainment .


We get high price and pass it to the left and pass it to the right then we pass it backwardd all .....ing night .

Watch it on tv for free gets more and more attractive bit like the Var morons.

And of course though we need our brains tested most of us will renew season tickets
 
Shite weather, the manager has handed out the no goals guarantee, slow boring football and mothers day. I don't know who these weirdos are who put mothers day before Palace but I get the other reasons.
 
mtp1958 said:
west ham one match 60k there was 20k empty seat
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The owners don't care because the seats are sold, but it's not a good look on the telly, and this should have the PL worried as it's not portraying their product in a good light.

Perhaps as someone has already suggested, the bubble has burst, and the fans who have been taken for granted once too often, are voting with their feet.
 
I've had a season ticket for many years now.

I rarely miss a home league game but I'm becoming selective about matches in other competitions.

Mainly because of the cost although if I swerved the pre match drinks that would radically reduce !

I'll renew for next season but I have fallen out of love with the EPL version of the game. So I'll be buying a season ticket for Bromley as well and spending more time at their games, sacking off Palace away games in the process.

Just about everyone I have spoken to about the EPL feels the same way about their ' product '.
 
Palace will always fill the ground for big matches. When we were successful in the old First Division many matches had over 40k attending with 49,997 against Chelsea only bettered later by the Burnley match in Division 2. However, when it rained huge numbers stayed away as both the Holmesdale and Whitehorse ends were open leading to an average cover some seasons to just less than 30k.

The biggest Clubs cheat with their figures as it persuades the FA and EPL to give them higher allocations at some matches. Just before the 2016 FA Cup Final we played ManU at Very Old Trafford. Of the 70,000 reported at the game there were huge blocks of empty seats. I estimated just over 50k at the game and judging by the silence many were tourists. Even last year at the Emirates there were many empty seats but as usual 60k was reported.
 
If I still lived in SE22 I would go to most home games like I used to despite having young kids and an angry misses. Now I live in EX2 it ain't so easy, only been to one game this season where we lost to Man U and had a ten hour round trip drive on a Sunday. That was crap!

Holding onto my season ticket with the (possibly forlorn) hope that the missus will get less angry and the kids will become more self sufficient. Not holding my breath.....
 
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