Glasner Out

[Nutmegyeti]

Have you considered the fact that Glasner is the only manager that Palace have had with a squad like that in their entire history.

I think Glasner’s a bit of a one-trick pony in terms of the system he sets up, and also in terms of the pattern you see wherever he goes. It’s almost the same story every time. He comes in, things click for a season or two, the system works, results are good and everyone’s happy. Then eventually there’s a falling-out with the board, things turn sour, and he moves on.

That doesn’t mean he’s a bad manager. If anything, he’s very good at getting a team organised quickly and squeezing the best out of a squad in the short term. But the evidence so far suggests he’s not someone who builds a long-term project. It’s more of a two-season burst and then the cycle repeats somewhere else.

Where I do think he handled things badly was January. He was a complete prick about it and burnt a lot of bridges with the way he went about things. At the end of the day, if you’ve already told the club you’re leaving in October, they’re not going to go out in January and sign players specifically for you. They’re going to be signing players for the next manager.

Even so, you still can’t ignore the fact that he delivered the FA Cup. That’s a massive moment for the club. Plenty of very good Palace managers never managed that.

In terms of style, I still think he’s closer to the Roy Hodgson mould than people like to admit. Comes in - strong system, disciplined structure, but not always brilliant at breaking down teams that sit deep.

Still, whatever anyone thinks about the man or how it ended, the trophy is in the cabinet and he can do no wrong to some, for others (like yourself) he was lucky. For some he was a prick afterwards.

None of these are mutually exclusive, they can all be true. But you know what Napoleon said when he appointed a general - he didn't ask if he was good, he asked if he was lucky.

 

[park the bus]

I think Glasner’s a bit of a one-trick pony in terms of the system he sets up, and also in terms of the pattern you see wherever he goes. It’s almost the same story every time. He comes in, things click for a season or two, the system works, results are good and everyone’s happy. Then eventually there’s a falling-out with the board, things turn sour, and he moves on.

That doesn’t mean he’s a bad manager. If anything, he’s very good at getting a team organised quickly and squeezing the best out of a squad in the short term. But the evidence so far suggests he’s not someone who builds a long-term project. It’s more of a two-season burst and then the cycle repeats somewhere else.

Where I do think he handled things badly was January. He was a complete prick about it and burnt a lot of bridges with the way he went about things. At the end of the day, if you’ve already told the club you’re leaving in October, they’re not going to go out in January and sign players specifically for you. They’re going to be signing players for the next manager.

Even so, you still can’t ignore the fact that he delivered the FA Cup. That’s a massive moment for the club. Plenty of very good Palace managers never managed that.

In terms of style, I still think he’s closer to the Roy Hodgson mould than people like to admit. Comes in - strong system, disciplined structure, but not always brilliant at breaking down teams that sit deep.

Still, whatever anyone thinks about the man or how it ended, the trophy is in the cabinet and he can do no wrong to some, for others (like yourself) he was lucky. For some he was a prick afterwards.

None of these are mutually exclusive, they can all be true. But you know what Napoleon said when he appointed a general - he didn't ask if he was good, he asked if he was lucky.

Indeed. I call it Royball with cherries on top. But Glasner had players of the calibre of Olise, Eze, and Guehi at his disposal, including inform stints from the likes of Munoz and Mateta. The cup win was straight out of the Royball manual. Let's not forget we still finished 12th in the league!
This season hasn't been so great, although we are currently 13th and slowly finding our feet again after some real dross. And still in Europe!
Glasner is an average to good manager, perhaps he moves on after a couple of years knowing himself what he does best.

 

[NEILLO]

I think Glasner’s a bit of a one-trick pony in terms of the system he sets up, and also in terms of the pattern you see wherever he goes. It’s almost the same story every time. He comes in, things click for a season or two, the system works, results are good and everyone’s happy. Then eventually there’s a falling-out with the board, things turn sour, and he moves on.

That doesn’t mean he’s a bad manager. If anything, he’s very good at getting a team organised quickly and squeezing the best out of a squad in the short term. But the evidence so far suggests he’s not someone who builds a long-term project. It’s more of a two-season burst and then the cycle repeats somewhere else.

Where I do think he handled things badly was January. He was a complete prick about it and burnt a lot of bridges with the way he went about things. At the end of the day, if you’ve already told the club you’re leaving in October, they’re not going to go out in January and sign players specifically for you. They’re going to be signing players for the next manager.

Even so, you still can’t ignore the fact that he delivered the FA Cup. That’s a massive moment for the club. Plenty of very good Palace managers never managed that.

In terms of style, I still think he’s closer to the Roy Hodgson mould than people like to admit. Comes in - strong system, disciplined structure, but not always brilliant at breaking down teams that sit deep.

Still, whatever anyone thinks about the man or how it ended, the trophy is in the cabinet and he can do no wrong to some, for others (like yourself) he was lucky. For some he was a prick afterwards.

None of these are mutually exclusive, they can all be true. But you know what Napoleon said when he appointed a general - he didn't ask if he was good, he asked if he was lucky.

In my career I worked with or for plenty of executives that had their preferred way of getting the desired results or outcomes that they had been brought in to deliver.

The majority stayed for around three years before moving on to do a more or less repeat job elsewhere. The minority had a pathway to move further up in the organisation and so stayed longer.

So I don't think it's unique to football.

My thoughts on Glasner are these ; there is a pattern to his behaviour as we all know. But he's not the first manager to have been frustrated by the way the club conducts itself in transfer windows. However he is the first to be so publicly open about it. And I think he had a level of justification in what he said. If you effectively give your notice in in October, there are no bridges to be burnt. I think the worst ' crimes ' he committed were the team management at Sunderland and the '' staying humble '' comments aimed at the supporters.

And you're right - he has delivered trophies. That doesn't make him perfect but it does give him some emotional collateral. So I can forgive the bad bits while not forgetting them.

 

[Forest Hillbilly]

Neillo. Always the the calming voice of informed reasoning. (although he could just be blagging it) 😀

 

[taylors lovechild]

I'm an old romantic, so I'm more swayed by the way a player or manager talks about our club, even if it is all illusory and a bit of a façade. It's why I disliked Pulis and Trevor Francis, but was more forgiving of the failures of Pardew and some others. I've never questioned OG's abilities as a manager, but I probably won't get over the way he conducted himself in January. Despite everything, we could still potentially end with a record PL points tally and another major trophy, which is quite remarkable. Spring is when we usually come to life, so here's hoping.

 

[NEILLO]

Neillo. Always the the calming voice of informed reasoning. (although he could just be blagging it) 😀

Rumbled. Damn.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Indeed. I call it Royball with cherries on top. But Glasner had players of the calibre of Olise, Eze, and Guehi at his disposal, including inform stints from the likes of Munoz and Mateta. The cup win was straight out of the Royball manual. Let's not forget we still finished 12th in the league!
This season hasn't been so great, although we are currently 13th and slowly finding our feet again after some real dross. And still in Europe!
Glasner is an average to good manager, perhaps he moves on after a couple of years knowing himself what he does best.

Are the comparisons to Royball just based on defensive solidity? Because I really don’t see any similarities other than that.

The volume and quality of chances we have always created under Glasner absolutely dwarfs what we did under Hodgson. We press far higher up the pitch, and actually look like we spend some time coaching attacking patterns and build up.

The 12th in the league thing feels rather loaded - it was a records points total for us in the Premier League. Our best ever PL season.

We were the sixth best team in the league for the 2025 calendar year. I think there has been some major revisionism on here downplaying how good we actually were.

 

[park the bus]

Are the comparisons to Royball just based on defensive solidity? Because I really don’t see any similarities other than that.

The volume and quality of chances we have always created under Glasner absolutely dwarfs what we did under Hodgson. We press far higher up the pitch, and actually look like we spend some time coaching attacking patterns and build up.

The 12th in the league thing feels rather loaded - it was a records points total for us in the Premier League. Our best ever PL season.

We were the sixth best team in the league for the 2025 calendar year. I think there has been some major revisionism on here downplaying how good we actually were.

That's why it's with cherries on top.

 

[Nicholas91]

Are the comparisons to Royball just based on defensive solidity? Because I really don’t see any similarities other than that.

The volume and quality of chances we have always created under Glasner absolutely dwarfs what we did under Hodgson. We press far higher up the pitch, and actually look like we spend some time coaching attacking patterns and build up.

The 12th in the league thing feels rather loaded - it was a records points total for us in the Premier League. Our best ever PL season.

We were the sixth best team in the league for the 2025 calendar year. I think there has been some major revisionism on here downplaying how good we actually were.

I agree.

Was never a sentiment from me designed for amusement, I genuinely thought at times we looked as though we 'could beat anyone'. We did a double over City and Liverpool at Wembley, reinforcing that statement for me.

Two things can be true at once though in that Glasner does only have one way of playing and when it works everybody seems to be on cloud 9, the man is adored and we've looked the best club team in the world! When it doesn't, we've gone literal months incapable of winning and the manager doesn't seem capable of dealing with that scenario either tactically or emotionally.

So I'm grateful the tide is seemingly turning now, excited even (dangerous thing to say prior to a European ko tie) however it was an awful period for us.

Be interesting to see just where the chips have fallen at the end of the season. It could be dissapointing but familiar, it might be pretty decent with the good memories of Glasner sustaining, or we might incredibly have more silverware...

COYP

 

[chris123]

In my career I worked with or for plenty of executives that had their preferred way of getting the desired results or outcomes that they had been brought in to deliver.

The majority stayed for around three years before moving on to do a more or less repeat job elsewhere. The minority had a pathway to move further up in the organisation and so stayed longer.

So I don't think it's unique to football.

My thoughts on Glasner are these ; there is a pattern to his behaviour as we all know. But he's not the first manager to have been frustrated by the way the club conducts itself in transfer windows. However he is the first to be so publicly open about it. And I think he had a level of justification in what he said. If you effectively give your notice in in October, there are no bridges to be burnt. I think the worst ' crimes ' he committed were the team management at Sunderland and the '' staying humble '' comments aimed at thes supporters.

And you're right - he has delivered trophies. That doesn't make him perfect but it does give him some emotional collateral. So I can forgive the bad bits while not forgetting them.

He's the first coach that has materially improved some players, I think there's additional value with bosses who improve the team.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

As it is clear the formation wont change, it will be interesting to see who plays at wing backs, Pino and Devenny, should be them IMO, defensive duties don't matter tonight, if he starts with Clyne he is a Doughnut

 

[silvertop]

Are the comparisons to Royball just based on defensive solidity? Because I really don’t see any similarities other than that.

The volume and quality of chances we have always created under Glasner absolutely dwarfs what we did under Hodgson. We press far higher up the pitch, and actually look like we spend some time coaching attacking patterns and build up.

The 12th in the league thing feels rather loaded - it was a records points total for us in the Premier League. Our best ever PL season.

We were the sixth best team in the league for the 2025 calendar year. I think there has been some major revisionism on here downplaying how good we actually were.

Yes, but you can perhaps forgive the fan-switch from jubilant to jaundiced after the mid season slump, not least the defeats to Burnley, Larnaca and Macclesfield.

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Yes, but you can perhaps forgive the fan-switch from jubilant to jaundiced after the mid season slump, not least the defeats to Burnley, Larnaca and Macclesfield.

Absolutely - the run this season was atrocious, no argument at all.

But it doesn't change the fact we were phenomenally good last year; genuinely capable of giving anyone in the country a game, and by a mile the best Palace team I've ever seen.

 

[Caterham]

Its not really surprising that managers find a plan that works for them, only to rinse & repeat at every new club, as we have seen far too regularly in recent years very few PL (Top Flight) managers stay for more than 2 seasons, although its true very few leave of their own accord, its more often because the club involved have higher aspirations than any outcomes that may have been delivered.

 

[BromleyMonkey]

Its not really surprising that managers find a plan that works for them, only to rinse & repeat at every new club, as we have seen far too regularly in recent years very few PL (Top Flight) managers stay for more than 2 seasons, although its true very few leave of their own accord, its more often because the club involved have higher aspirations than any outcomes that may have been delivered.

As I’ve said many a time, if managers tinker and chop and change their system they get accused of their team having no identity and you can’t see how they want to play.
We were playing and being very successful in a style that crucified Amorim’s man United.

IMO If you’ve got very good committed players who want to play for their manager it doesn’t matter what system you play, it’s a simple game complicated by all the modern day iPad bollox, turnovers, high press, low press, full press, low block, transitions, false 9, overloads, inverted full backs!! No wonder some of the players look bamboozled, especially when a sub is coming on and he’s got to read a flip chart while he’s standing their having his studs checked by the 4th

 

[park the bus]

As I’ve said many a time, if managers tinker and chop and change their system they get accused of their team having no identity and you can’t see how they want to play.
We were playing and being very successful in a style that crucified Amorim’s man United.

IMO If you’ve got very good committed players who want to play for their manager it doesn’t matter what system you play, it’s a simple game complicated by all the modern day iPad bollox, turnovers, high press, low press, full press, low block, transitions, false 9, overloads, inverted full backs!! No wonder some of the players look bamboozled, especially when a sub is coming on and he’s got to read a flip chart while he’s standing their having his studs checked by the 4th

"Just run around a bit son" - Harry Redknapp allegedly

 

[ASCPFC]

"Just run around a bit son" - Harry Redknapp allegedly

He never coached in Italy then.

 

[ripleyeagle]

I watch the Bundesliga highlights every week, they show the team’s formations at the start of each game. 90% of teams at home play three at the back and it seems the away sides setup with four at the back. It does seem strange that OG rarely plays four at the back especially away.

 

[ASCPFC]

I watch the Bundesliga highlights every week, they show the team’s formations at the start of each game. 90% of teams at home play three at the back and it seems the away sides setup with four at the back. It does seem strange that OG rarely plays four at the back especially away.

They have more than one formation? That seems really strange and bewildering.

 

[ripleyeagle]

They have more than one formation? That seems really strange and bewildering.

I just wanted to highlight why OG is so rigid by always playing three at the back as managed in that league as well.