War in the Middle East

DanH said:
A lot of words for no answer of how Restore are going to deport millions of people.

I think ‘cowards’ for not saying how when we all know there’s only one way is fine. And if you don’t think you can do it any way other then by force you’re just thick, not a coward.
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Well, ultimately force or the threat of force, is the means by which any government implements its policy.

But as I have said, I don't think that will be required and also as I've stated other countries get to do this and I'm fed up with double standards.
 
DanH said:
How?
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I wouldn't allow anyone to come here beyond a select few. The government can do what they like. They choose not to. The law can be changed if that is a problem. You just need the will.
 
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Stirlingsays said:
Well, ultimately force or the threat of force, is the means by which any government implements its policy.

But as I have said, I don't think that will be required and also as I've stated other countries get to do this and I'm fed up with double standards.
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The government could revoke British citizenship for anyone they like if they chose to. International law, the ECHR and any other law is like voodoo. It only has power in a democracy if you give it power. Politicians are elected to make law.
 
DanH said:
So how much are you paying these people to go? And where are they going?
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I don't know that you have to pay people, just identifying who doesn't belong here under whatever criteria Restore settle on and then denying them welfare is one method. But these are questions that the Restore policy unit can come up with....I'm not being paid to write the paper.

Where are they going? I've heard of islands identified that we own. I think we can also make agreements with countries to take those who refuse under financial incentives.

Did anyone ask Pakistan these questions?.....Nope.
 
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Forest Hillbilly said:
Someone I associate with (in real life) is still convinced the conflicts unfolding in the Gulf are a timely cover for more Epstein disclosures. Even in my wildest conspiracy fantasies, I still think that scenario might be a tad excessive.
But, you never know 😀
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I think that's a very plausible explanation, almost mainstream.

This one on the other hand....
https://twitter.com/x/status/2027852646443319682
 
With differing reports placed in the media, I'm really confused as to what is going on. The only things that are certain, is that the USA and Israel have embarked on an unprovoked attack on a sovereign state, destroying military targets and killing many civilians under, what appears to be, a scorched-earth policy, with perhaps the ultimate aim of regime change and plundering vast oil reserves.
The immediate outcomes for Europeans are an increase in food and energy prices, with a potential surge in illegal immigrants and a higher risk of terrorist attacks.
The benefits to the USA are huge dividend for shareholders in arms companies, and the acquisition of large reserves of oil.
 
Forest Hillbilly said:
With differing reports placed in the media, I'm really confused as to what is going on. The only things that are certain, is that the USA and Israel have embarked on an unprovoked attack on a sovereign state, destroying military targets and killing many civilians under, what appears to be, a scorched-earth policy, with perhaps the ultimate aim of regime change and plundering vast oil reserves.
The immediate outcomes for Europeans are an increase in food and energy prices, with a potential surge in illegal immigrants and a higher risk of terrorist attacks.
The benefits to the USA are huge dividend for shareholders in arms companies, and the acquisition of large reserves of oil.
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The cost of filling your tank has gone up over there too
 
Mortgage and oil rates already up
with higher Inflation rates likely to follow .
Time to withdraw from this middle-east war before the situation becomes entrenched and untenable .
The Supreme leader is dead , Iran is severely weakened military and it’s just turning into a bloodbath of innocent civilians .
Nothing more to be gained as far as I can see but lots to be lost .
 
Trump's made a big mistake in my opinion......I don't see how Iran won't be more radical after this, not less.

Most of these buildings being bombed will be empty.....the economy will be even more fecked and that strengthens hardliners not reformers.

Iran's main army with small arms would be dispersed waiting this out.

Unless there's an invasion, US or other that's committed to a war, then this ends before April....An invasion is a lot of money and body bags, which Trump came in criticising in 2015.

Rationality tells you that it just costs both the US and the region too much money.
 
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Lanzo-Ad said:
Can anyone say for 100% certainty that the strike on Iran is not a cynical attempt to divert peoples attention to the Epstein saga, Does Trump care how many die, or what the oil price is, he has Venezuelan oil, he would do anything to stay in the Whitehouse.
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Epstein files about Trump released yesterday, classic tactics, release while everyone is looking the other way.
 
Even though I loathe and detest the Iranian regime I cannot for the life of me see how this will help the Iranian people. Nor do I think there’s any long term plan in Trump’s sick mind. He surely won’t risk an invasion or will he? He’s dodgy sanity makes him unpredictable.

What can be guaranteed is that this action will motivate every Islamic terror group to seek revenge on the west and the US and Israel in particular.
 
Racehorse-80s said:
Mortgage and oil rates already up
with higher Inflation rates likely to follow .
Time to withdraw from this middle-east war before the situation becomes entrenched and untenable .
The Supreme leader is dead , Iran is severely weakened military and it’s just turning into a bloodbath of innocent civilians .
Nothing more to be gained as far as I can see but lots to be lost .
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The higher mortgage rates, higher inflation, higher fuel costs will be blamed on 14 years of Tory mismanagement…
 
Having seen the Iranian president address, the reports of him apologising were overcooked!!
He has said f*** you USA we are not surrendering and you can take that idea to your grave.
Fighting talk and the US say another 4-6 weeks minimum.
But then fuel prices will be off the scale and your pensions will be decimated.
Not seeing much good news this morning.
 
kevlee said:
Having seen the Iranian president address, the reports of him apologising were overcooked!!
He has said f*** you USA we are not surrendering and you can take that idea to your grave.
Fighting talk and the US say another 4-6 weeks minimum.
But then fuel prices will be off the scale and your pensions will be decimated.
Not seeing much good news this morning.
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Huntley dead?
 
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