Glasner Out

SurbsEagle said:
Biggest question remains in this discussion - who replaces Glasner? Anyone can sack their manager but that doesn't fix any problems if we don't have a replacement.

The squad are mostly built to play Glasner's system, so would need to be a manager who makes minimal changes to that structure. I would suggest the only thing a new manager would be able to bring this season is a fresh mindset and therefore a new motivation for the players. Any interim appointment would be pointless in my opinion as the players would still be playing for a manager who is off at the end of the season, which is what we currently have.
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But it does fix a lot if the manger is the problem. Glasner is a net negative for the club and the team. In games we are much worse in the second half which shows the more input he has to the team the worse we get. Right now we’d be better off with no manager and letting the players organise themselves. The results could hardly have been worse over the last three months
 

Glasner quizzed on his future​

Sky Sports News' James Savundra posed these questions to Crystal Palace manager Oliver Glasner in his press conference this morning...

Are you confident you can lead this side until the end of the season?

"Let's see. I always said, as a manager, you always depend on your players. They will get all the support, like always and then we will see."

Do you still want to be here until the end of the season?

"Let's see. What the future brings, we never know."

What needs to happen to ensure you will be here until the end of the season?

"In football, it's easy. As a manager, you will stay and you are allowed to stay when the results are OK.

"Football is all about this, and the last months, the results were not good. The performances were not consistently good and that's it."

Have you found it difficult to maintain your levels?

"No. No. Never. That's why I feel pretty open to talk about because it's the situation. It's never about Oliver Glasner. Oliver Glasner's life will continue in the summer wherever and however it is. Crystal Palace's life will continue."

Have you still got the drive to lead club until the end of season?

"Yes. I feel so. Yes."


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Elphers40 said:

Glasner quizzed on his future​

Sky Sports News' James Savundra posed these questions to Crystal Palace manager Oliver Glasner in his press conference this morning...

Are you confident you can lead this side until the end of the season?

"Let's see. I always said, as a manager, you always depend on your players. They will get all the support, like always and then we will see."

Do you still want to be here until the end of the season?

"Let's see. What the future brings, we never know."

What needs to happen to ensure you will be here until the end of the season?

"In football, it's easy. As a manager, you will stay and you are allowed to stay when the results are OK.

"Football is all about this, and the last months, the results were not good. The performances were not consistently good and that's it."

Have you found it difficult to maintain your levels?

"No. No. Never. That's why I feel pretty open to talk about because it's the situation. It's never about Oliver Glasner. Oliver Glasner's life will continue in the summer wherever and however it is. Crystal Palace's life will continue."

Have you still got the drive to lead club until the end of season?

"Yes. I feel so. Yes."


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Translation: “I don’t really give a f**k anymore and don’t really care. I’ll be alright anyway and couldn’t give a s**t what happens to Palace. That’s their problem not mine”
 
Us Palace fans have never really joined the manager chants out brigade and definitely not booing the players during a game. Whilst very tempting and understandable to a degree, it doesnt help one iota. I guess OG is very close to being sacked especially if we have a bad result against Wolves.

Who would the club bring on right now, I guess Paddy McCarthy temporarily? With the injury list growing again what would realistically be be achieved from sacking OG now.

Sadly the signing of Johnson was an expensive and terrible mistake and joins Nketiah and Franca as being other recent poor signings. I think we miss Dougie Freedman as SD because he was able to make some excellent signings.

The Conf league has turned into a posioned chalice, and even if we scrape through against Zrinjksi next week (and there is no guarantee), we are no where near good enough to win this competition this season.
 
Lanzo-Ad said:
I take no pride from it, i have never seen a manager so one dimensional, but other things don't add up to me, i cannot understand why so much money was spent in the last window, and who wanted the signings, surely Glasner had no input, so who, you would have thought maybe one signing and a couple of loans, the Uche transfer was strange, this to me is so un-Parish, i think winning the cup, although it was a great feeling, muddied the water towards Glasner, i have know idea of what is going to happen next. 😢
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The only thing that makes sense is Hobbs appointment .The management structure has broken down and I suspect this was behind the decision Glasner took to walk away in June .

I mean he has been asked to work under a director of football who's cv amounts to scouting kids . His answer to replacing Guehi was to splash our cash on strikers . Glasner has said he has been let down or was it abandoned by the club . many thought he was talking about Parish , I suspect he was thinking of Hobbs .
We shouldn't have a worse squad than we did 12 months ago but we have by quite a margin and that's not down to Glasner .

But ,Glasner has shown he can't or won't adapt to getting the best out of what he has ,a vast contrast to when he took over . The man looks like he wants to go but cant find the door . Parish should put us all out of our misery .
 
I was of the opinion that keeping Glasner till the end of the season wasn't a bad thing if he had the drive and the dressing room and that was after wanting him sacked immediately after him spitting his dummy out.

But, the last few games especially have shown he has neither the drive nor (looking at the players after the game last night) the dressing room. I can predict every press conference we have after we lose or play badly is Glasner deflecting it onto the players or the board "they lost concentration" or new players "too new to get the system" and never on himself in any capacity.

I think he does need to go now. A large part of his job is motivation and getting the players going, we saw that in the cup run last year and the footage from the dressing room after the finals, but now I don't see it. In any walk of life, if you're working with colleagues who are up for succedding, positive, have a positive vibe and energy then it lifts everyone, but I'm sure we've all worked with a moany b****** or two who just bring down the energy and everyone wants rid of in order to just get through the day without feeling pissed off. At the moment Glasner is that person and I think it's evident in the way the team is at the moment.

I get the feeling (and I hope) we already have someone lined up for next season, otherwise not sacking him and spending a ton on new players doesn't make sense, so if we have then we might need to fall back on Paddy to see us through till the end of the season. He completely unproven, but the goal now really is ensuring top flight survival, think we can forget Europe now.
 
The question is not whether the team has performed poorly enough for long enough that sacking Glasner could be justified. The question is what is best for Palace, all things considered.

It seems highly improbable that none of the clubs preferred permanent managerial candidates are in work right now, and even more improbable that their employers would be happy to let them go right now, just as the key part of the season approaches. The club will most likely have far more options in the summer and more time to weigh them.

That perhaps makes a caretaker appointment more likely if Glasner goes now. That may not address the issue some perceive of the players not trying hard enough for a manager they know will not be here next season.

Also, any external caretaker will have no time at all to evaluate the players or understand the club. He will have very little time to introduce a new system of play. Given all of the above, we are unlikely to get anyone with any decent managerial pedigree. Who would want to do it for such a short term? Roy is surely now too old. Paddy is the obvious go-to, but has never done it before.

None of this is an argument in favour of Glasner particularly, but it should not be presumed that any change made right now would be positive.
 
I suspect we will appoint Paddy as interim until the end of the season. It's just potentially deepening the crisis even further.

What a unmitigated disaster this season has turned into.

Questions need to be asked at Board level as to how they have turned this season into such a s*** show after last season and that's what us as fans should be venting our frustrations at.
 
I can't see the usual Friday press conference scheduled today on Palace TV.
It may be because of the European fixture last night leading to a postponement/cancellation of the press conference.
The possibility that Glasner is stepping down can't be ruled out though.
I thought that this would be most likely after next Thursday's European game after which there is a break in the fixtures to allow for a handover.
Results and performance may have led to a rethink.
 
PatrickA said:
I can't see the usual Friday press conference scheduled today on Palace TV.
It may be because of the European fixture last night leading to a postponement/cancellation of the press conference.
The possibility that Glasner is stepping down can't be ruled out though.
I thought that this would be most likely after next Thursday's European game after which there is a break in the fixtures to allow for a handover.
Results and performance may have led to a rethink.
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PatrickA said:
I can't see the usual Friday press conference scheduled today on Palace TV.
It may be because of the European fixture last night leading to a postponement/cancellation of the press conference.
The possibility that Glasner is stepping down can't be ruled out though.
I thought that this would be most likely after next Thursday's European game after which there is a break in the fixtures to allow for a handover.
Results and performance may have led to a rethink.
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My mistake- the break is actually after the 14th March.
The Evening Standard is quoting Glasner as saying he's ' not good enough to integrate ' the new players.
Modesty or a swipe at the Board?
 
Since his outburst in January, he has increasingly separated himself from the club, the performances and the results. This just can't be good for the squad. If we'd held on for the win at Burnley, the team's confidence would likely have risen, and this might not have been such an issue. Now it feels like Glasner's position has become untenable. He's showing no real accountability or leadership, and his openness is not refreshing; it's depressing. Mentally, you just wonder if he's perhaps not strong enough for the rigours of the PL and the pressure it puts on managers.

I'd be amazed if he's still in charge come Sunday.
 
OG playing the "victim card" since the summer and particularly this morning, has lead to the dysfunctional results we are experiencing, notwithstanding the totally unfathomable board decisions like selling Guehi for short term gain, poor squad balance and lack of defensive investments, bad transfer windows, etc. etc.

Here is the AI description for OG 🙂

"Making oneself the victim to explain poor performance, often called playing the "victim card" or having a victim mentality, is a defense mechanism where individuals attribute failures to external factors, other people, or unavoidable circumstances. This behavior serves to deflect accountability, avoid vulnerability, and gain sympathy, ultimately preventing personal growth and professional development.

Key aspects of this behavior include:
  • External Locus of Control: Believing that one has no personal agency over their situation, leading to a feeling of being powerless.
  • Deflection of Accountability: Using excuses and rationalizations to ensure that shortcomings are never perceived as their fault.
  • Narcissism or Low Self-Worth: Sometimes linked to a need for manipulation or deep insecurity.
  • Habitual Thinking: Viewing life's challenges as constantly unfair, often stemming from past traumas or learned, dysfunctional behaviors"
 
Ended the exact same way as frankfurt.

I was reading that Glasner also refused to develop young talent there and demanded money to invest in ready made players.
 
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