Restore Britain.

Xong Kudu said:
Wisbech

You are a strange man with terrible judgment. I remember you before the last US election arguing like crazy that Biden was not suffering from early dementia but was just old and a little bit forgetful at times like the rest of elderly gentleman. You also thought Kamala Harris was the best thing since sliced bread. And no..that doesn’t mean I think Trump is good.

Common sense and integrity of fair thought just doesn’t apply to you does it? It’s all about supporting your tribe on the Left whether they’re right or wrong, sane or insane.. I actually wonder if you can see your own ridiculousness or more likely you just don’t care because you thrive on the attention of being a biased agitator from your white safe enclave in Cornwall. Ironic!
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Wait for it 😂😂😂
 
Xong Kudu said:
Wisbech

You are a strange man with terrible judgment. I remember you before the last US election arguing like crazy that Biden was not suffering from early dementia but was just old and a little bit forgetful at times like the rest of elderly gentleman. You also thought Kamala Harris was the best thing since sliced bread. And no..that doesn’t mean I think Trump is good.

Common sense and integrity of fair thought just doesn’t apply to you does it? It’s all about supporting your tribe on the Left whether they’re right or wrong, sane or insane.. I actually wonder if you can see your own ridiculousness or more likely you just don’t care because you thrive on the attention of being a biased agitator from your white safe enclave in Cornwall. Ironic!
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He doesn't care and has some wierd gratification from being a contrarian.

"The need to be right all the time, sometimes referred to as a "righteous" need to be correct, is a psychological behavior often driven by deep-seated insecurities, a fragile ego, or a, sometimes, controlling personality, rather than a literal sexual fetish. When this need becomes obsessive, it is often associated with Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) or extreme perfectionism, where the individual distorts reality to maintain an image of superiority and invincibility."
 
Stirlingsays said:
Springer Spaniel.
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Why people insist on being right

  • Identity protection: For many, being right is tied to self-worth or status. Admitting error feels like a threat to competence, intelligence, or reputation.
  • Cognitive consistency: Humans prefer coherent beliefs. Changing a belief creates mental dissonance, which is uncomfortable; defending the old belief reduces that discomfort.
  • Confirmation bias and motivated reasoning: People selectively notice, interpret, and remember information that supports their preexisting beliefs, and rationalize away contradicting evidence.
  • Social signalling: Being right can signal authority, competence, or group membership. Public concessions may cost social standing.
  • Loss aversion and sunk-costs: Time, effort, or public commitment invested in a position make reversal feel like a loss.
  • Anxiety and control: Holding to a belief can reduce anxiety about uncertainty; conceding can feel like losing control.
  • Poor epistemic habits: Limited critical thinking skills, low tolerance for ambiguity, or reliance on heuristics make updating beliefs harder.
  • Emotional arousal: When arguments are emotionally charged, people shift from reasoning to defending. Emotions override evidence.
 
Stirlingsays said:
Hey, let's hope you're right but I think Labour only care about holding power as long as possible. Starmer has already intimated that this is a pure ideological fight for him. He's less interested in other factors, only in keeping people like us away from power....and when I say Starmer I'm effectively saying the whole Labour movement. They are all about gay race communism as the future for Britain.....It's been that way since the 70s, we just never really wanted to admit it until it became front and centre.

Just as the 'Europe' keep the Ukraine war going in the hope that Russia could collapse, Labour will do the same thing with Reform/Restore and anyone else who looks like winning.

A week is a long time in politics but three years is a lot longer.
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Can't argue with the last line but there is no party that does not have as it's raisson d'etre the securing and holding of power at all cost. Labour is far from exceptional in this respect and is not more nor less than the others.
 
HKOwen said:
Why people insist on being right

  • Identity protection: For many, being right is tied to self-worth or status. Admitting error feels like a threat to competence, intelligence, or reputation.
  • Cognitive consistency: Humans prefer coherent beliefs. Changing a belief creates mental dissonance, which is uncomfortable; defending the old belief reduces that discomfort.
  • Confirmation bias and motivated reasoning: People selectively notice, interpret, and remember information that supports their preexisting beliefs, and rationalize away contradicting evidence.
  • Social signalling: Being right can signal authority, competence, or group membership. Public concessions may cost social standing.
  • Loss aversion and sunk-costs: Time, effort, or public commitment invested in a position make reversal feel like a loss.
  • Anxiety and control: Holding to a belief can reduce anxiety about uncertainty; conceding can feel like losing control.
  • Poor epistemic habits: Limited critical thinking skills, low tolerance for ambiguity, or reliance on heuristics make updating beliefs harder.
  • Emotional arousal: When arguments are emotionally charged, people shift from reasoning to defending. Emotions override evidence.
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Which of these points holds the greatest weight in the point you are making and why?
 
Teddy Eagle said:
Have a walk around East London and laugh about how ridiculously pathetic it is.
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What is ridiculously pathetic is trying to justify its use. In any way.

When we, or our forbears, have created a problem it’s down to us to correct it. Refusing to even acknowledge it exists just adds to the difficulties. This is the fundamental problem at the base of all racial problems.

When one group decided to categorise all those who don’t look like them as sub human the issue was born and has never gone away. People herded in that way cannot be blamed for reacting. It’s up to us to react. We carry that responsibility.
 
Xong Kudu said:
Wisbech

You are a strange man with terrible judgment. I remember you before the last US election arguing like crazy that Biden was not suffering from early dementia but was just old and a little bit forgetful at times like the rest of elderly gentleman. You also thought Kamala Harris was the best thing since sliced bread. And no..that doesn’t mean I think Trump is good.

Common sense and integrity of fair thought just doesn’t apply to you does it? It’s all about supporting your tribe on the Left whether they’re right or wrong, sane or insane.. I actually wonder if you can see your own ridiculousness or more likely you just don’t care because you thrive on the attention of being a biased agitator from your white safe enclave in Cornwall. Ironic!
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You can question my judgement as much as you wish. It’s of no concern to me.

Whilst Biden’s physical problems were evident there was no reason to suspect he was unable to carry out his duties, my argument always being he led a team, and wasn’t a one man band surrounded by sycophants. There was, and still is, no confirmation of any dementia, despite all the amateur speculation.

My primary reasoning was to compare an administration run by Biden with one run by Trump and ask which was more reliable. The answer to which was, and is now even more, clearly evident. Yes I preferred Harris to Trump. Still do. As I said I would prefer Mickey Mouse to Trump that’s not a hard decision.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
What is ridiculously pathetic is trying to justify its use. In any way.

When we, or our forbears, have created a problem it’s down to us to correct it. Refusing to even acknowledge it exists just adds to the difficulties. This is the fundamental problem at the base of all racial problems.

When one group decided to categorise all those who don’t look like them as sub human the issue was born and has never gone away. People herded in that way cannot be blamed for reacting. It’s up to us to react. We carry that responsibility.
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Not categorising anybody as sub-human. Pointing out the obvious that there's a failure of integration. Clearly some people have no intention of integrating. They don't accept a country's values, they don't respect a country's values. It's hardly a stretch to then say, they shouldn't be here then. You could make the same argument for any number of groups of people in any number of countries or areas. It doesn't have to be race or culturally specific.
 
Wisbech Eagle said:
What is ridiculously pathetic is trying to justify its use. In any way.

When we, or our forbears, have created a problem it’s down to us to correct it. Refusing to even acknowledge it exists just adds to the difficulties. This is the fundamental problem at the base of all racial problems.

When one group decided to categorise all those who don’t look like them as sub human the issue was born and has never gone away. People herded in that way cannot be blamed for reacting. It’s up to us to react. We carry that responsibility.
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But our culpability is predicated on the willingness of new arrivals to adapt to a different culture which in many cases just hasn't been, and isn't, there. In fact our way of life is actively rejected.
 
Xong Kudu said:
Wisbech

You are a strange man with terrible judgment. I remember you before the last US election arguing like crazy that Biden was not suffering from early dementia but was just old and a little bit forgetful at times like the rest of elderly gentleman. You also thought Kamala Harris was the best thing since sliced bread. And no..that doesn’t mean I think Trump is good.

Common sense and integrity of fair thought just doesn’t apply to you does it? It’s all about supporting your tribe on the Left whether they’re right or wrong, sane or insane.. I actually wonder if you can see your own ridiculousness or more likely you just don’t care because you thrive on the attention of being a biased agitator from your white safe enclave in Cornwall. Ironic!
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I think you might be on to something. 🤣
 
HKOwen said:
Dan H Bingo

You're all bullies
You're ganging up
Usual suspects
Far Right or similar
Wisbech is a victim

Please add to the list as you see fit
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Something to do with men's bottoms and not telling his wife...
 
silvertop said:
Can't argue with the last line but there is no party that does not have as it's raisson d'etre the securing and holding of power at all cost. Labour is far from exceptional in this respect and is not more nor less than the others.
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No not 'at all cost'.....not for the mainstream parties in Britain.

In the past there were always shared ideas, especially on the idea of nation.

I can agree that politics has always been adversarial as this is its nature.

However, due to demographic changes and social media the last thirty years has seen an increasing gap between the mainstream parties, definitely in the US and....while for a time the Conservatives tried to copy Blairism, thinking it would be successful to be social liberals.....Ultimately that failed because you can't really be an actual conservative and a social liberal at the same time.....You can believe in some liberal values, but social liberalism went far beyond that.

The result is that conservationism split and that now parties like Reform/Restore represent conservationism and they and Labour are at polar opposites with no shared ideology at all.

History shows that it's dangerous when that happens because the party in power will view losing as existential.
 
Teddy Eagle said:
But our culpability is predicated on the willingness of new arrivals to adapt to a different culture which in many cases just hasn't been, and isn't, there. In fact our way of life is actively rejected.
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That's very hard to understand, get up drink fall over on repeat is easy enough.:beer:
 
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