Glasner Out

[MJ_Palace]

Its an interesting one. I can fully understand people's resent towards him and wanting him out or gone at the end of the season. However I do think that hes potentially just made a mistake, a outburst and was feeling hard done by. If anything atleast it showed he cared so I can see that side too. Not swaying one side or the other yet personally.

There is also the fact he could be wanting to make a U turn because of Carrick doing well at Man U.

I also dont think we were buying for "The next manager" JSL was simply a replacement for Mateta. So whoever comes in at least has that option of a striker still if JPM is going. BJ is simply just a player who Parish thought was premier league ready and can add goals. It really does make a interesting situation for Parish if OG does ask to change his mind.... The one thing I'd be worried about is OG asking for release clauses if Bayern or Man U come knocking. Im not sure his heart would allways be in it.

Its really not a simple or easy situation.

 

[JHB]

Its an interesting one. I can fully understand people's resent towards him and wanting him out or gone at the end of the season. However I do think that hes potentially just made a mistake, a outburst and was feeling hard done by. If anything atleast it showed he cared so I can see that side too. Not swaying one side or the other yet personally.

There is also the fact he could be wanting to make a U turn because of Carrick doing well at Man U.

I also dont think we were buying for "The next manager" JSL was simply a replacement for Mateta. So whoever comes in at least has that option of a striker still if JPM is going. BJ is simply just a player who Parish thought was premier league ready and can add goals. It really does make a interesting situation for Parish if OG does ask to change his mind.... The one thing I'd be worried about is OG asking for release clauses if Bayern or Man U come knocking. Im not sure his heart would allways be in it.

Its really not a simple or easy situation.

For me it’s not the outburst at Sunderland. That was just him trying to get the boot. It’s the fact he’s not fully committed combined with atrocious results and performances in recent times. He clearly wants more than Palace and that was his plan from day one. It’s not a job where you can have somebody doing it whose heart isn’t 100% in it. Do well with him and he will just look to move on to ‘bigger’ things again

 

[fish mitten]

We'd be mad not to keep him, if he had a change of heart and wanted to stay. The man's a winner, he wants to win and do well, and if he wears his heart on his sleeve sometimes, then I would rather that than someone who didn't care at all. Does he do it for Oliver Glasner or Crystal Palace? All that matters is he's been nothing short of a miracle for our manager. Won us 2 trophies and got us expecting to win most weeks.

I dread next season without him hear. It can go wrong very quickly with the wrong manager.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

He clearly wants more than Palace and that was his plan from day one. It’s not a job where you can have somebody doing it whose heart isn’t 100% in it. Do well with him and he will just look to move on to ‘bigger’ things again

everybody wants to go up to Real Madrid or equivalent. That's football mate.

 

[JHB]

everybody wants to go up to Real Madrid or equivalent. That's football mate.

Indeed. No issue with it. It’s his career and he should be ambitious. No grudge held there. Just think once he’s decided he wants to move on the commitment can’t be 100% there

 

[CPFCSaturn]

Delighted with yesterday - when we have a functional squad, he's still a top manager.

No one I would back more to win us the Conference League (which is surely all that matters this season now).

 

[Putitout]

Delighted with yesterday - when we have a functional squad, he's still a top manager.

No one I would back more to win us the Conference League (which is surely all that matters this season now).

Exactly “,when we have a functional squad.”Our squad was so depleted for the last month or two ,any manager would have struggled for results. Eddie Howe, couldn’t stop a relegation for Bournemouth, a few seasons back, his record at Newcastle says ,give him the players and his teams will compete at a high level. The point being Glasner, like Howe, is not a genius ,just a very good coach/manager, when the right players are available.
If Glasner, and Parish, could live together, I,d be happy. All you can hope for in football is commitment under contract, it’s never a case of total never ending loyalty.

 

[CrazyBadger]

It's going to be very difficult for him to stay now he's announced he will be leaving in the summer, and that it was agreed in November. not sure his ego will allow that. But for me, it was more than a simple outburst. He stopped trying to win games, put out protest lineups and called out the youngsters - in short, he put his own needs over that of the club and the team, all to hide his inability to find any kind of solution.

I'm glad he now appears to have shown some professionalism (now his 1st team are back together and the club has spunked 100m on some squad players) but this isn't the last of the tricky periods were gonna have and if he's gonna do this each time, i'd rather not have him here.

 

[ASCPFC]

The two previous posts about Glasner are not really the whole truth. When he was in a strop, he made strange selections, would not change anything and used either none or bizarre/ pointless substitions. All apparently to make a point. Therefore, we probably lost some points due to his behaviour. We have also lost development of many of our young players.
We may beat Burnley next and Wolves: that still won't change the fact that Glasner contributed to our run of poor results as much as anyone else.

 

[Willo]

Exactly “,when we have a functional squad.”Our squad was so depleted for the last month or two ,any manager would have struggled for results. Eddie Howe, couldn’t stop a relegation for Bournemouth, a few seasons back, his record at Newcastle says ,give him the players and his teams will compete at a high level. The point being Glasner, like Howe, is not a genius ,just a very good coach/manager, when the right players are available.
If Glasner, and Parish, could live together, I,d be happy. All you can hope for in football is commitment under contract, it’s never a case of total never ending loyalty.

Bournemouth finished 18th with the last matches played during 'Lockdown'.
Players in their squad that season included Jefferson Lerma, Harry Wilson, Nathan Ake, Dominic Solanke and Callum Wilson.
I cannot recall if there were any mitigating circumstances.

 

[Eaglecoops]

no one is perfect all of the time, and few jobs come with as much public critique and pressure than a Prem manager. I can understand him having a bad moment on camera. All he did was say how he was feeling. I can forgive him that.

Whilst I understand his frustration, name another profession where you can slag off the senior management and tell your customers you are leaving as soon as you are able and continue to hold onto your job. Not many I guess.

If you can think of a decent one, let me know, I might fancy a go at it.

 

[ASCPFC]

Whilst I understand his frustration, name another profession where you can slag off the senior management and tell your customers you are leaving as soon as you are able and continue to hold onto your job. Not many I guess.

If you can think of a decent one, let me know, I might fancy a go at it.

Teaching and politics.

 

[Eaglecoops]

Teaching and politics.

I said a decent one😁

 

[Midlands Eagle]

It's going to be very difficult for him to stay now he's announced he will be leaving in the summer, and that it was agreed in November. not sure his ego will allow that. But for me, it was more than a simple outburst. He stopped trying to win games, put out protest lineups and called out the youngsters - in short, he put his own needs over that of the club and the team, all to hide his inability to find any kind of solution.

What a load of rubbish. People waffling on about his ego when in reality they haven't a clue what goes on his mind

 

[Frickin Saweet]

Its an interesting one. I can fully understand people's resent towards him and wanting him out or gone at the end of the season. However I do think that hes potentially just made a mistake, a outburst and was feeling hard done by. If anything atleast it showed he cared so I can see that side too. Not swaying one side or the other yet personally.

There is also the fact he could be wanting to make a U turn because of Carrick doing well at Man U.

I also dont think we were buying for "The next manager" JSL was simply a replacement for Mateta. So whoever comes in at least has that option of a striker still if JPM is going. BJ is simply just a player who Parish thought was premier league ready and can add goals. It really does make a interesting situation for Parish if OG does ask to change his mind.... The one thing I'd be worried about is OG asking for release clauses if Bayern or Man U come knocking. Im not sure his heart would allways be in it.

Its really not a simple or easy situation.

I don't think ManUre were ever in for Glasner - it would be a really stupid appointment. He has proven that he's rigid in his system. And the system has been proven to not work at ManUre. Oli would get the same tune out of them that Amorim did. Carrick hasn't made that system work, he's changed it to suit the players and the 'United way'.

 

[Putitout]

Bournemouth finished 18th with the last matches played during 'Lockdown'.
Players in their squad that season included Jefferson Lerma, Harry Wilson, Nathan Ake, Dominic Solanke and Callum Wilson.
I cannot recall if there were any mitigating circumstances.

Five decent players that doesn’t tell the story for the whole squad ,or it’s injury record. During our recent poor run Glasner could usually put out half a dozen of our better players, that didn’t alter the fact that the rest had little if any real experience.

 

[Willo]

Five decent players that doesn’t tell the story for the whole squad ,or it’s injury record. During our recent poor run Glasner could usually put out half a dozen of our better players, that didn’t alter the fact that the rest had little if any real experience.

I have just been directed to the following :

2019–20 AFC Bournemouth season

The 2019–20 AFC Bournemouth season was the club's fifth and final consecutive campaign in the Premier League, during which they were managed by Eddie Howe and ultimately suffered relegation to the EFL Championship after finishing 18th in the table with 34 points from 38 matches. AFC Bournemouth...

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[Putitout]

I have just been directed to the following :

2019–20 AFC Bournemouth season

The 2019–20 AFC Bournemouth season was the club's fifth and final consecutive campaign in the Premier League, during which they were managed by Eddie Howe and ultimately suffered relegation to the EFL Championship after finishing 18th in the table with 34 points from 38 matches. AFC Bournemouth...

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Thanks for that ,Willo. As I remember always a bit of a struggle finally running out of steam. What he might have done with a better squad.
My real point is , our poor run with a depleted squad doesn’t make Glasner a bad manager ,as some would have it. When our squad of already limited numbers was running injury free, Glasner led them to heights an old hand like me had never seen from a Palace team. An FA cup win, three games against Liverpool without defeat. Nineteen games undefeated before the dreaded injury curse struck, doesn’t speak of a bad manager to me. His ego ridden demeanour is highly questionable, not his ability.

 

[Lanzo-Ad]

Lets see what happens in the next four matches, four games we should win, lets see if we see a change of tactics, wingbacks are no use if a team is defending deep, so we end up with the keeper and 5 defenders looking at each other, just like the second half against Forest, we have 5 decent attacking players, start with at least four.

 

[JHB]

Thanks for that ,Willo. As I remember always a bit of a struggle finally running out of steam. What he might have done with a better squad.
My real point is , our poor run with a depleted squad doesn’t make Glasner a bad manager ,as some would have it. When our squad of already limited numbers was running injury free, Glasner led them to heights an old hand like me had never seen from a Palace team. An FA cup win, three games against Liverpool without defeat. Nineteen games undefeated before the dreaded injury curse struck, doesn’t speak of a bad manager to me. His ego ridden demeanour is highly questionable, not his ability.

As has been said a lot. When he has everything just right he can get the team playing great. But as soon as a few things aren’t perfect he really, really struggles. So you get runs of great football, lots of points and cups but then dreadful runs where he has shown no ability to scrap, get points and doesn’t take accountability (publicly at least).