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[cryrst]

Every law enforcement officer should be capable of being identified. Indeed they should identify themselves to whoever they are either questioning or arresting. Their own safety is another matter completely. Behave correctly and there ought be no problem Ensuring their personal details are not available being different to their official status.

I strongly doubt that most of those being detained are gang members. Some will be, because criminals exist in every community.

That old chestnut that they’re just criminals. A bit like your grooming gang line. Just criminals. Eventually race and colour are a factor. How else do they do the stats… oh hang on only for whites 😳

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Classic deflection tactic...compare someone to a Nazi when you've got nothing substantive. That's straight out of the TDS playbook you are all too familiar with.

I've asked you now 5/6 times for proof that the lovely Karoline leavitt lies and so far nothing. Either step up and provide the proof at the 5th time of asking or pipe down. Linking to that left wing rag doesn't count give me direct quotes, dates, and proof, not echo-chamber opinions.

Ice are out there are out there enforcing the law, protecting the US borders, and dealing with chaos stirred up by radical activists. The videos you're twisting show protesters blocking operations, getting aggressive, and endangering officers. Self defense is necessary when mobs turn violent.

As for Trump, nice try with that Fox poll, but even there, his approval is at 44% with 85% approval among Republicans.

I picked out this quote from the news article: "Approval of Trump’s overall job performance stands at 44%, unchanged since December. He receives 85% approval among all Republicans and 97% among Republicans who identify as MAGA supporters."

Numbers don't lie, but your interpretation sure does. 👍

Your bs is never ending! Leavitt is a lie. Nothing else is required. It’s her job. Just read the link I provided and try to understand what it tells you. That you keep failing to recognise the point and repeatedly ask the same dumb question is your own responsibility.

You seem to think ignoring questions and just attacking the questioner means she isn’t lying. But she is. She doubles down on the lies told by her boss every time she fails to correct them. You seriously want examples of things that everyone can easily see for themselves? Here they are:-

Misrepresenting Deportation Cases: After Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) admitted to deporting the wrong person to El Salvador, Leavitt claimed the individual was a leader of the MS-13 gang and involved in human trafficking, despite no evidence or court conviction to support the claim.
Economic Misinformation: Leavitt claimed in December 2025 that “every economic metric is improving,” despite reports of high inflation, rising grocery bills, and shrinking paychecks.
Tariff Impact: Leavitt claimed that tariffs would make the country wealthy and that foreign countries pay them, contrary to economic analyses that show tariffs are paid by importers and passed on to consumers.
The "Hamas Condom" Funding Claim: Leavitt repeated the claim that the Biden administration sent $50 million in funding to Gaza that was used by Hamas to make weapons. Fact-checkers indicated this funding was actually for HIV/AIDS prevention in a different region.
Fabricated Anecdotes: In attempting to defend Trump, she claimed that drug companies were going to lower drug prices by "over 100%," a mathematically impossible claim.
Media Intimidation/False Premises: She demanded that CBS News air a full interview with Trump, claiming the American people "deserve" it unedited, while simultaneously attacking reporters who challenged her, sometimes calling them "assholes" or accusing them of being "disingenuous".

ICE ought to be doing only what you suggest, but they aren’t. They are going in mob handed to break up perfectly legal protests and then using totally unnecessary violence against US citizens. The responsibility for which clearly lies at the door of Stephen Miller, who is seemingly pulling most of Trump’s strings and is an extremely nasty piece of work.

I picked the Fox poll deliberately because despite its capacity to try to put a positive spin on everything it cannot deny the truth that with independents and undecideds Trump is failing fast. Other, more reliable and trusted, polls show this even clearer. Trump is rightly worried that is going to lose the House at the mid terms and possibly too the Senate. Which worries Trump watchers as given his instability and unpredictability he could do anything. Currently Gabbard is trawling through State files looking for anything that could be spun to suggest there was voter fraud in 2020, ready to announce voter suppression tactics for the mid terms.

Of course Leavitt won’t lie about that, will she?

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

This is ridiculous. My wife was involved in an importation of drugs case and was named in the local paper as the Officer involved, her name was plastered for all to see, which should never have been done, but too late. “ their own safety is another matter” what does this even mean? Border Force Officers, by law, only have to identify themselves by warrant number, however my wife had to sign a witness statement so her name was out there.
You live in a bubble. IMO most of the Somalis in Minnesota will have gang relations, as they do in the UK

Identification by warrant number is more than enough as it enables those who need to know the identity to know it, but not anyone else. That’s all I was suggesting. ICE agents should wear identification that can be reported to their superiors, recorded by video and noted by journalists who can then follow up to see what action is taken. It would also identify repeat offenders. So long as the numbers are not connected to names there isn’t a problem. Soldiers charged in public courts are only referred to by number.

That your wife was required to sign her name which then released her identity isn’t acceptable and I trust corrections have been made.

It doesn’t matter if 99% of any group have connections to criminals. That doesn’t mean they are themselves criminal or that the other 1% aren’t. Law enforcement should target criminals. Not trawl streets looking for people who fit the racial profile of targets.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Is it just me that finds that UK based US political “ experts” know more than US residents, ridiculous?

Depends what you mean by know more!

Any US resident is going to know more about how they feel personally, how their friends feel, what the circumstances are in their locality and what their media of choice is telling.

People observing the whole from a distance can see less detail but the bigger picture. How it impacts not just a district in a red State but also a village in Cornwall and all over the world.

I watch a lot of US political media. Usually several hours every day. I have for the past 25 years, but even more these days. You can dismiss that if you wish but I am genuinely worried about the direction the Trump administration is taking the USA. Not for them. That’s their business but for us and the safety and future of my family.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

That old chestnut that they’re just criminals. A bit like your grooming gang line. Just criminals. Eventually race and colour are a factor. How else do they do the stats… oh hang on only for whites 😳

Determining who is a criminal should only ever be done by examining the evidence. Race and colour is never evidence.

Nobody is ever guilty of anything by association. Too many preconceptions and assumptions lead to division and resentment. It might be easier to round up everyone who fits the racial profile of a suspect but it’s backward law enforcement. It’s lazy and counter productive.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Depends what you mean by know more!

Any US resident is going to know more about how they feel personally, how their friends feel, what the circumstances are in their locality and what their media of choice is telling.

People observing the whole from a distance can see less detail but the bigger picture. How it impacts not just a district in a red State but also a village in Cornwall and all over the world.

I watch a lot of US political media. Usually several hours every day. I have for the past 25 years, but even more these days. You can dismiss that if you wish but I am genuinely worried about the direction the Trump administration is taking the USA. Not for them. That’s their business but for us and the safety and future of my family.

Several hours a day? In addition to keeping up to date on UK local and national and European news and politics, events at Selhurst Park reading and writing posts on here, bowling club commitments, dog walking and leading an active social life that's quite a full day.
Perhaps cut down on the American side and learn a new skill? After 25 years you could have become an accomplished juggler as well as mastering several musical instruments and now be delighting tourists with virtuosic displays of both.

 

[eaglesdare]

Your bs is never ending! Leavitt is a lie. Nothing else is required. It’s her job. Just read the link I provided and try to understand what it tells you. That you keep failing to recognise the point and repeatedly ask the same dumb question is your own responsibility.

You seem to think ignoring questions and just attacking the questioner means she isn’t lying. But she is. She doubles down on the lies told by her boss every time she fails to correct them. You seriously want examples of things that everyone can easily see for themselves? Here they are:-

Misrepresenting Deportation Cases: After Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) admitted to deporting the wrong person to El Salvador, Leavitt claimed the individual was a leader of the MS-13 gang and involved in human trafficking, despite no evidence or court conviction to support the claim.
Economic Misinformation: Leavitt claimed in December 2025 that “every economic metric is improving,” despite reports of high inflation, rising grocery bills, and shrinking paychecks.
Tariff Impact: Leavitt claimed that tariffs would make the country wealthy and that foreign countries pay them, contrary to economic analyses that show tariffs are paid by importers and passed on to consumers.
The "Hamas Condom" Funding Claim: Leavitt repeated the claim that the Biden administration sent $50 million in funding to Gaza that was used by Hamas to make weapons. Fact-checkers indicated this funding was actually for HIV/AIDS prevention in a different region.
Fabricated Anecdotes: In attempting to defend Trump, she claimed that drug companies were going to lower drug prices by "over 100%," a mathematically impossible claim.
Media Intimidation/False Premises: She demanded that CBS News air a full interview with Trump, claiming the American people "deserve" it unedited, while simultaneously attacking reporters who challenged her, sometimes calling them "assholes" or accusing them of being "disingenuous".

ICE ought to be doing only what you suggest, but they aren’t. They are going in mob handed to break up perfectly legal protests and then using totally unnecessary violence against US citizens. The responsibility for which clearly lies at the door of Stephen Miller, who is seemingly pulling most of Trump’s strings and is an extremely nasty piece of work.

I picked the Fox poll deliberately because despite its capacity to try to put a positive spin on everything it cannot deny the truth that with independents and undecideds Trump is failing fast. Other, more reliable and trusted, polls show this even clearer. Trump is rightly worried that is going to lose the House at the mid terms and possibly too the Senate. Which worries Trump watchers as given his instability and unpredictability he could do anything. Currently Gabbard is trawling through State files looking for anything that could be spun to suggest there was voter fraud in 2020, ready to announce voter suppression tactics for the mid terms.

Of course Leavitt won’t lie about that, will she?

Apologies to everyone else this gonna be a long post....feel free to skip it 🤣

Blimey what a mouthful! More TDS-fueled rants with zero actual proof! Just more looney left wing hit pieces and anonymous "fact checkers" who hate Trump.

Leavitt is doing her job and that's by calling out real threats and pushing back on ridiculous looney left win rhetoric. Your examples clearly are distortions from biased sources. But I guess at least you provided them at the 5th time of asking! So let's actually look at your Karoline Leavitt accusations instead of just repeating left wing spin:

Deportation case: ICE admitted an administrative error over the deported a guy with prior MS-13 ties intel and Leavitt stuck to the position he was a gang member based on that evidence, even if one mistake happened. No 'lie' just refusing to back down on a dangerous individual. Courts and his own lawyers couldn't disprove the gang link fully.

Economic: She highlights real wins like job growth and energy independence under Trump. Your "high inflation" gripe ignores how policies are turning things around fast. No direct quote from Dec 2025 matches your claim exactly and it sounds like cherry picked exaggeration.

Tarrifs: these put pressure on foreign countries to negotiate fair deals and brings manufacturing back generates revenue to the US. In the long term it will make the US wealthier. No lie here.

Hamas condom funding: This was about blocking wasteful aid. The point stands and Trump paused dubious spending that could've indirectly benefited bad guys. No lie here.

Drug prices: that's just Classic Trump bold talk for massive cuts 👍 no lie just hype.

CBS interview: Trump wanted full transparency and Leavitt relayed that forcefully because media loves selective edits. Just ask the BBC 😛it wasnt intimidation it was just demanding fairness after past hit jobs. No lie here.


Anyways.....ICE is enforcing laws against illegal immigration amid violent protests blocking operations while officers defend themselves when mob attacks.

Fox shows 44% approval overall and 85%+ for Republicans. So I don't know what you problem is with those stats. The other polls are most likely cherry picked doom from outlets that most likely got 2024 wrong too.

All you really have is insults while Trump is winning, and the beautiful karoline Leavitt is telling it like it is. 🥰 Another few years of all this! I'm loving it! 🕺

Numbers don't lie but your spin certainly does 👍

 

[Stirlingsays]

Wisbech just can't appreciate a proper attractive god fearing woman up there.

Probably wants that lesbian back.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Several hours a day? In addition to keeping up to date on UK local and national and European news and politics, events at Selhurst Park reading and writing posts on here, bowling club commitments, dog walking and leading an active social life that's quite a full day.
Perhaps cut down on the American side and learn a new skill? After 25 years you could have become an accomplished juggler as well as mastering several musical instruments and now be delighting tourists with virtuosic displays of both.

I can also multi task! You miss several things. I have a lot of hospital appointments at the moment, due to a health scare. I also do all the cooking and cleaning. Alongside something else which must remain private but takes a lot of my time. Most of my US watching is during our late evening.

Juggling and music have never been of interest whilst the future of my family is my overwhelming one. So I’ll pass on that.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Apologies to everyone else this gonna be a long post....feel free to skip it 🤣

Blimey what a mouthful! More TDS-fueled rants with zero actual proof! Just more looney left wing hit pieces and anonymous "fact checkers" who hate Trump.

Leavitt is doing her job and that's by calling out real threats and pushing back on ridiculous looney left win rhetoric. Your examples clearly are distortions from biased sources. But I guess at least you provided them at the 5th time of asking! So let's actually look at your Karoline Leavitt accusations instead of just repeating left wing spin:

Deportation case: ICE admitted an administrative error over the deported a guy with prior MS-13 ties intel and Leavitt stuck to the position he was a gang member based on that evidence, even if one mistake happened. No 'lie' just refusing to back down on a dangerous individual. Courts and his own lawyers couldn't disprove the gang link fully.

Economic: She highlights real wins like job growth and energy independence under Trump. Your "high inflation" gripe ignores how policies are turning things around fast. No direct quote from Dec 2025 matches your claim exactly and it sounds like cherry picked exaggeration.

Tarrifs: these put pressure on foreign countries to negotiate fair deals and brings manufacturing back generates revenue to the US. In the long term it will make the US wealthier. No lie here.

Hamas condom funding: This was about blocking wasteful aid. The point stands and Trump paused dubious spending that could've indirectly benefited bad guys. No lie here.

Drug prices: that's just Classic Trump bold talk for massive cuts 👍 no lie just hype.

CBS interview: Trump wanted full transparency and Leavitt relayed that forcefully because media loves selective edits. Just ask the BBC 😛it wasnt intimidation it was just demanding fairness after past hit jobs. No lie here.


Anyways.....ICE is enforcing laws against illegal immigration amid violent protests blocking operations while officers defend themselves when mob attacks.

Fox shows 44% approval overall and 85%+ for Republicans. So I don't know what you problem is with those stats. The other polls are most likely cherry picked doom from outlets that most likely got 2024 wrong too.

All you really have is insults while Trump is winning, and the beautiful karoline Leavitt is telling it like it is. 🥰 Another few years of all this! I'm loving it! 🕺

Numbers don't lie but your spin certainly does 👍

Thanks for the initial suggestion. I skipped it!

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Wisbech just can't appreciate a proper attractive god fearing woman up there.

Probably wants that lesbian back.

I don’t give a fig what the Press Secretary looks like or what their personal life is.

I want someone who tells the truth, answers questions honestly, explains when national security issues prevent full disclosure and is polite and respectful to journalists of all persuasions.

Only then will trust be restored.

 

[silvertop]

Apologies to everyone else this gonna be a long post....feel free to skip it 🤣

Blimey what a mouthful! More TDS-fueled rants with zero actual proof! Just more looney left wing hit pieces and anonymous "fact checkers" who hate Trump.

Leavitt is doing her job and that's by calling out real threats and pushing back on ridiculous looney left win rhetoric. Your examples clearly are distortions from biased sources. But I guess at least you provided them at the 5th time of asking! So let's actually look at your Karoline Leavitt accusations instead of just repeating left wing spin:

Deportation case: ICE admitted an administrative error over the deported a guy with prior MS-13 ties intel and Leavitt stuck to the position he was a gang member based on that evidence, even if one mistake happened. No 'lie' just refusing to back down on a dangerous individual. Courts and his own lawyers couldn't disprove the gang link fully.

Economic: She highlights real wins like job growth and energy independence under Trump. Your "high inflation" gripe ignores how policies are turning things around fast. No direct quote from Dec 2025 matches your claim exactly and it sounds like cherry picked exaggeration.

Tarrifs: these put pressure on foreign countries to negotiate fair deals and brings manufacturing back generates revenue to the US. In the long term it will make the US wealthier. No lie here.

Hamas condom funding: This was about blocking wasteful aid. The point stands and Trump paused dubious spending that could've indirectly benefited bad guys. No lie here.

Drug prices: that's just Classic Trump bold talk for massive cuts 👍 no lie just hype.

CBS interview: Trump wanted full transparency and Leavitt relayed that forcefully because media loves selective edits. Just ask the BBC 😛it wasnt intimidation it was just demanding fairness after past hit jobs. No lie here.


Anyways.....ICE is enforcing laws against illegal immigration amid violent protests blocking operations while officers defend themselves when mob attacks.

Fox shows 44% approval overall and 85%+ for Republicans. So I don't know what you problem is with those stats. The other polls are most likely cherry picked doom from outlets that most likely got 2024 wrong too.

All you really have is insults while Trump is winning, and the beautiful karoline Leavitt is telling it like it is. 🥰 Another few years of all this! I'm loving it! 🕺

Numbers don't lie but your spin certainly does 👍

Wisbech can state his facts. You can challenge them. However, your points might carry greater weight if you avoided lines like those highlighted. Why is seeking to call out disingenuous comments "lefty", biased, TDS or somehow mentally unbalanced? If he thinks statements are untrue would it not be better to just say why they are not (as the rest of your post has).

Just a thought.

For my part, her comments generally drift more into political puff and hyperbole than genuine statements she knows to be false. For me it's largely bollox and entertainment, but I accept there are those who are naive and who fall on her every word given her persuasive skills, her pretty face and the powerful position she holds.

That said, she is paid to be the mouth piece of a man whose stance on anything pivots through several 180 degree changes within the same day. I think she deserves some slack at least for that.

Her attacks on the characters of both people killed by ICE, however, crossed a line.

 

[Teddy Eagle]

I can also multi task! You miss several things. I have a lot of hospital appointments at the moment, due to a health scare. I also do all the cooking and cleaning. Alongside something else which must remain private but takes a lot of my time. Most of my US watching is during our late evening.

Juggling and music have never been of interest whilst the future of my family is my overwhelming one. So I’ll pass on that.

Fair enough. Still seems a bit of a wasted opportunity when we could have had a Coltrane of the kazoo.

 

[eaglesdare]

Wisbech can state his facts. You can challenge them. However, your points might carry greater weight if you avoided lines like those highlighted. Why is seeking to call out disingenuous comments "lefty", biased, TDS or somehow mentally unbalanced? If he thinks statements are untrue would it not be better to just say why they are not (as the rest of your post has).

Just a thought.

For my part, her comments generally drift more into political puff and hyperbole than genuine statements she knows to be false. For me it's largely bollox and entertainment, but I accept there are those who are naive and who fall on her every word given her persuasive skills, her pretty face and the powerful position she holds.

That said, she is paid to be the mouth piece of a man whose stance on anything pivots through several 180 degree changes within the same day. I think she deserves some slack at least for that.

Her attacks on the characters of both people killed by ICE, however, crossed a line.

He gives as good as he gets. I return the tongue in cheek comments back. Maybe you can also highlight some of his comments the same way. 👍

 

[eaglesdare]

Thanks for the initial suggestion. I skipped it!

Thankfully. I don't have to respond to your TDS reply in that case. 👏

 

[eaglesdare]

Wisbech just can't appreciate a proper attractive god fearing woman up there.

Probably wants that lesbian back.

Cant wait for his review on the melania Trump documentary. He seems afraid of strong confident conservative women.

 

[Stirlingsays]

Cant wait for his review on the melania Trump documentary. He seems afraid of strong confident conservative women.

He dislikes anything high maintenance.

 

[Stirlingsays]

 

[Stirlingsays]

I don’t give a fig what the Press Secretary looks like or what their personal life is.

Yeah, I kind of believe that.

I want someone who tells the truth, answers questions honestly, explains when national security issues prevent full disclosure and is polite and respectful to journalists of all persuasions.

I kind of don't believe that.

You want someone who delivers the narratives you like.

Only then will trust be restored.

This instantly reveals the issue you have with the truth.....that's just an inaccurate statement.

Trust with you....Not in the country.

That is divided in two and the PR for the President isn't going to change that.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

Thankfully. I don't have to respond to your TDS reply in that case. 👏

Thankfully if I get any more of the nonsense you have directed at me there is an ignore button. Something I use very sparingly but in your case an exception is well overdue.