Glasner Out

[mart.denman]

We are in 15th. We are nine points clear. The winless run was quite clearly in large part down to the loss of players, as I mentioned. It was also just the inevitable fall-off after having such a great start, achieving beyond what we would realistically keep up and maintain.

Unless those below us crack the secret to overturn their own troubles and essentially go on a run like our’s, we should be safe. We are just as many points off of Europe as we are off of the drop, as I said already.

When we have our full number available we create untold chances. The main problem we have is that Mateta doesn’t seem to be able to convert them anymore. He’s probably about to be out the door any minute.

Look at the full picture, maybe pop half a Xanax, we are not “hurtling towards relegation”. We are in a spot absolutely typical of our club and absolutely pertinent to the tools available. It was always going to be this way in the circumstances we have just been through. But we are safe.

If we lose the next five now that we have our strongest players back, by all means come and rub my nose in it, and maybe then we would need to think about a change. We won’t need to, it’s not going to happen. Even then, you have to be sure that it is going to make things in any way better and not in fact worse.

 

[Nicholas91]

If we had any replacements in the squad you might be right. However we did not, and still do not. No manager on earth can magic a body out of his ear hole, and even if he could he wouldn’t be registered to play…

You’re missing the point completely.

If you’re suggesting that we’re utterly doomed regardless of who the manager is, fair enough that’s your right to believe that, but I strongly disagree.

I believe that another manager could be doing far better than OG is doing, would have more than 3 points from 27 and would not have allowed us to be embarrassed by the likes of Larnaca and Macclesfield, despite injures.

I also believe that OG is incapable of turning this around without things outside of his control charging in his favour, that there is no guarantee of this, and I’d rather somebody who can adapt to unfavourable circumstances than continually watch Palace struggle to even get a point out of matches.

 

[Linford]

You’re missing the point completely.

If you’re suggesting that we’re utterly doomed regardless of who the manager is, fair enough that’s your right to believe that, but I strongly disagree.

I believe that another manager could be doing far better than OG is doing, would have more than 3 points from 27 and would not have allowed us to be embarrassed by the likes of Larnaca and Macclesfield, despite injures.

I also believe that OG is incapable of turning this around without things outside of his control charging in his favour, that there is no guarantee of this, and I’d rather somebody who can adapt to unfavourable circumstances than continually watch Palace struggle to even get a point out of matches.

I’m not suggesting we are doomed, but at that time we were doomed. Those are two different things.

Of course we were doomed. We had to make do with what we had, which was sweet F.A.

 

[mart.denman]

Was there today & the performance was by players under strict orders
It was so poor & f***ing boring.
Glasner can f*** off & take his s*** one trick tactics with him.
Fed up of watching such bloody horrible results as players stifled by a over controlling coach

 

[park the bus]

Was there today & the performance was by players under strict orders
It was so poor & f***ing boring.
Glasner can f*** off & take his s*** one trick tactics with him.
Fed up of watching such bloody horrible results as players stifled by a over controlling coach

Glasner lacks improvisational ability. One thing that strikes me as very obvious now is the complete disconnect between some of our signings and what he thinks a player should be doing.

 

[mart.denman]

Glasner lacks improvisational ability. One thing that strikes me as very obvious now is the complete disconnect between some of our signings and what he thinks a player should be doing.

Exactly,
The team are completely at odds what to do.
Side passes were so frustrating & nobody had the balls to run at forest
As for Pino he's so pathetic & poor...
The most uninspiring 10 in the premier league,

 

[radicalsteve]

He really should avoid making public derogatory comments in post match interviews:

“With two, maybe three more players [returning from injuries] then we have five or six new players [including new signings Brennan Johnson and Evann Guessand] all of a sudden. It feels like two years ago, having to teach them how we want to play and attack. You can see too many misunderstandings.

This is taking a step backwards.”

I can't understand why Parish and his leadership don't put a stop to all this negativity he heaps on the club and players in public. Maybe there is another shoe to drop after Monday, because this just totally unprofessional, self absorbed and not helping anyone.

 

[JHB]

We were the better team for most of the Chelsea game, and if it wasn’t for the stamp going completely unpuncished it might’ve been a different game. Anyway it’s Chelsea, we shouldn’t expect much more than what we delivered which was a good fight and a better performance than we’ve seen since the end of our purple patch… I.e. since we last had Munoz and Sarr funnily enough.

Again today we played well, and in the first half we were creating chances. Yes we did get found out in the second half, but we held onto a vital point, and most importantly again we looked a lot better than we had without Munoz and Sarr.

I knew how much we were missing Munoz and Sarr already, but particularly those two games they’ve been back confirm it to me that we aren’t in any danger.

Re Chelsea especially this is what I mean, when did we start expecting to beat those kind of teams? Surely that shows how far we have travelled that some think it’s an expectation.

Sorry this is a ridiculous statement. We were three nil down with 20 minutes left to play. They could completely take their foot off the gas with a quarter of the game to go! As for saying we shouldn’t expect to beat Chelsea. There’s a difference between expecting to beat them and expecting us to be competitive. I think it is entirely reasonable to expect us to be competitive and we weren’t. West Ham were competitive against them last night and they are in the relegation places. They will be absolutely gutted to lose that game as they dominated the first half.

As for today. Saying we played well is again just not borne out by what we saw. We played for 45 mins against ten men and didn’t lay a glove on them. They looked more likely to score.

I tell you who I did expect to beat. A team of semi pros playing in the sixth tier. We couldn’t even do that.

As many people have said we didn’t expect 9 out of 9in the League but no wins and 3 points is unacceptable. I’m really surprised anyone would argue anything else

 

[Linford]

He really should avoid making public derogatory comments in post match interviews:

“With two, maybe three more players [returning from injuries] then we have five or six new players [including new signings Brennan Johnson and Evann Guessand] all of a sudden. It feels like two years ago, having to teach them how we want to play and attack. You can see too many misunderstandings.

This is taking a step backwards.”

I can't understand why Parish and his leadership don't put a stop to all this negativity he heaps on the club and players in public. Maybe there is another shoe to drop after Monday, because this just totally unprofessional, self absorbed and not helping anyone.

He’s saying it like it is. There is no use to bury our heads in the sand and try to pretend none of it is true. He’s completely right.

I would be more concerned if he came out and said there is nothing to work on in training and he is going to relax by the pool.

 

[JHB]

He’s saying it like it is. There is no use to bury our heads in the sand and try to pretend none of it is true. He’s completely right.

I would be more concerned if he came out and said there is nothing to work on in training and he is going to relax by the pool.

It’s really curious isn’t it? Because when we couldn’t break down teams from lower leagues in Europe or in the Carabao Cup earlier this season and the attacking play being similarly awful we didn’t have new players to integrate or returning from injury. Almost like that’s not the reason and there is a common thread as to why we are so awful against defensive teams. If only I could put my finger on it. I know maybe I’ll ask the person who was the manager for all of these games.

 

[Linford]

It’s really curious isn’t it? Because when we couldn’t break down teams from lower leagues in Europe or in the Carabao Cup earlier this season and the attacking play being similarly awful we didn’t have new players to integrate or returning from injury. Almost like that’s not the reason and there is a common thread as to why we are so awful against defensive teams. If only I could put my finger on it. I know maybe I’ll ask the person who was the manager for all of these games.

So the entire Prem is made of defensive teams now? Since our form went, how many defensive teams have we actually faced?

Man City, Leeds, Arsenal, Spurs, Fulham, Newcastle, Villa, Sunderland, Chelsea

0/9

 

[radicalsteve]

He’s saying it like it is. There is no use to bury our heads in the sand and try to pretend none of it is true. He’s completely right.

I would be more concerned if he came out and said there is nothing to work on in training and he is going to relax by the pool.

my point is that whatever is going on, he should not be making derogatory comments to the media, he should zip it up and express his feelings internally, not to the whole f***ing world, because that helps no one and makes it bad for the players! He uses the excuse of "Olie Glasner is emotional" in the third person, which is so narcissistic.

 

[RubinsCube]

Sorry this is a ridiculous statement. We were three nil down with 20 minutes left to play. They could completely take their foot off the gas with a quarter of the game to go! As for saying we shouldn’t expect to beat Chelsea. There’s a difference between expecting to beat them and expecting us to be competitive. I think it is entirely reasonable to expect us to be competitive and we weren’t. West Ham were competitive against them last night and they are in the relegation places. They will be absolutely gutted to lose that game as they dominated the first half.

As for today. Saying we played well is again just not borne out by what we saw. We played for 45 mins against ten men and didn’t lay a glove on them. They looked more likely to score.

I tell you who I did expect to beat. A team of semi pros playing in the sixth tier. We couldn’t even do that.

As many people have said we didn’t expect 9 out of 9in the League but no wins and 3 points is unacceptable. I’m really surprised anyone would argue anything else

On MOTD a few weeks back Jermaine Defoe made the interesting point that being competitive and working hard are two very different things.

What concerns me at the moment with the first team set up is what looks like lethargic, underwhelming press conferences from a manager who has one foot out the door in a few weeks, aligned with lethargic looking performances from the first team.

Where were the lung busting runs from Munoz today when we had an extra player for 45mins? Where were the runners from midfield on the few occasions we did break on them? The team looked like it was walking in the last 15mins and reminded me of the last few games in the Vieira era.

Hopefully the new signing from Villa and maybe a new face confirmed tomorrow can add a little intensity.

 

[Ex Dubai Eagle]

I know OG said publicly in that press conference only he & SP knew from October that he wasn't staying, personally I don't buy that, I think that at least internally, within the club, the secret was out, people talk, SP tells Mark Bright & probably Matt Hobbs, OG tells his coaching support team, someone tells someone else etc etc.

How often do we hear managers talk of fine margins, the difference between a positive result or a negative one, from what we have seen unfold in front of us, I want to say since Macclesfield but I think even before that in the Conference games, we are witnessing declining commitment & with it declining performances throughout respective matchday's -

As much a fan of OG as I have been, I do believe the sun has set on his time in charge, its my feeling that he can no longer get the commitment required from his support team & players required to win PL / elite sport matches & whilst for sure there have been other contributing factors, Afcon, injuries, suspensions etc, its my feeling that the knock on effect of having someone who is no longer committed to the cause is more detrimental to the group that the considerable experience that he brings to the role -

 

[The Dolphin]

He’s saying it like it is. There is no use to bury our heads in the sand and try to pretend none of it is true. He’s completely right.

I would be more concerned if he came out and said there is nothing to work on in training and he is going to relax by the pool.

A bad workman always blames his tools.
Nothing is his fault.
Please Steve, sack him now.

 

[PatrickA]

The collapse has been extraordinary.
This season we have gone from the side with the longest unbeaten run in Europe (and the best unbeaten run in Palace's history) to the team which has not won in the last 12 games with only a few draws to show ( possibly one of the the worst records in our history).

The confidence looks shot to pieces with usually reliable players even failing to do the basics right.
Injuries and unavailability haven't helped together with the unbalanced nature of the squad.

I see little point Glasner continuing to point out what the club has done wrong this season as he is continually doing at press conferences.
That inquest can wait until the end of the season.
He's setting up the team to fail and giving the players, including the ones joining, an excuse for not performing.
He's gone from one of the most positive managers in our recent history to a very negative one.
That negativity is damaging for the players when Glasner should be leading from the front.
It would be better for everybody if he looked forward rather than backwards, and enthused about the new players, the players who are returning and how strong our squad looks to be moving forward.

 

[Painter]

If we lose our next 5 it will be 3 points from 14 games. Thats the equivalent of less than 9 points a season. That would be worse than the worst ever PL season.

Thats an extremely low bar to even start considering making a change. A pointless bar.

If you’re then suggesting that we need all our best players to even be competitive in this league, that’s again a bold statement for a team who has been in this league for over a decade and who won the FA Cup and Charity Shield last season.

The likelihood is that we won’t always have every player available. If, when this happens, we are incapable of winning games under this manager (as has been demonstrated), he is not fit for purpose, as this is a likely scenario.

So the choice is either stick with a manager in the hope that he will produce once the perfect conditions are in place, or acknowledge the reality that this is unlikely and find a manager who can adapt to ever changing conditions.

I prefer the latter.

Most teams have a dip in form for various reasons. Ours is because Glasner likes working with a small squad, who played more games in 2025 than any other Premier team and are now knackered and picking up injuries due to that.
Other managers may of rotated more and introduced more youngsters during the season, we will never know. I doubt Parish will sack Glasner now, due to lack of viable alternatives mid season.

 

[NEILLO]

Disagree.

‘We’ are not reliant upon 2 or 3 players, Oliver Glasner is reliant upon these players. As has been demonstrated, without them he cannot win us football games.

These players being fit and available for selection is not a guarantee.

So again, we either stick with a manager who needs an undeliverable guarantee in order to get results, or we go with a manager who can deliver better than 3 points from 27 even when the perfect conditions are not in place, which they are unlikely to be.

Can Glasner deliver if the perfect conditions are in place? Of course, he’s demonstrated that he can.

Can Glasner deliver when the conditions are less than perfect? No, he’s demonstrated this inability.

So, once more, do we stick with Glasner hoping the perfect conditions manifest and stay or do we get a manager in who can adapt to this uncertainty?

I prefer the latter and suggest this will become more and more necessary whilst the perfect conditions are not in place for OG, we continue being incapable of winning football games, all joy from watching Palace has been sucked form the fans and we head towards relegation.

On that basis you would have sacked Glasner in October '24. And there were people on HOL then advocating just that. Prior to beating Spurs on 27/10/24, Palace had taken just 3 points from the first 8 games. And went into that fixture on the back of 3 consecutive defeats.

That was the time when we had players injured, out of form after returning from Euros / Copa America having not had a proper pre season. Oh, and selling a centre back and captain on the last day of the transfer window ( sound familiar ? ).

You know very well that the strength and quality in the squad this season never looked like being enough to cope with the additional workload of European competition.

Glasner is rightfully getting criticism in light of his outbursts against the Board and the peculiar timing of his decision to leave and releasing that into the public domain. I don't think he's actually wrong in a lot of what he's been saying but that's not excusing his conduct. And it's a results business - they have been far from good since early December. But IF you stripped out the knowledge that he handed his notice in 3 months ago, IF he hadn't made those statements, would you still want him sacked given the parallels between that October and now ?

 

[taylors lovechild]

Given everything that has gone on this past few weeks, I feel like Glasner would have done well to just say that, considering everything, the players showed some heart and got a good point. He had my full support until he announced he was leaving, but since then he has increasingly sounded like someone looking for excuses rather than fixes.

 

[EagleEddie]

In the second half yesterday, Hughes, clearly frustrated, took a shot that was so wayward Henderson almost had to save it, but because it didn’t seem to fit the supposed system, Glasner went ballistic. A player takes responsibility and shoots when no one else is, and the manager loses it. The players look confused about what they are and aren’t allowed to do, with no real decision-making permitted on the pitch. Paddy looked confused in the dugout as Glasner continued his rant. Meanwhile, Glasner appears content with endless sideways passing, with no real intent to penetrate the opposition defence. Then he has the audacity to tell us the positives like he’s trying to brain wash us!

I didn’t boo or abuse Glasner against Chelsea last week when he walked out with an exaggerated wave and smile, however, I refused to applaud him and I won’t at the next home game if he is still here.

For me, it’s definitely time for him to go.