Definition of stupid, taking a gun and confronting law enforcement

[silvertop]

Sure.

Shame that Biden allowed ten million illegals into the country then.

This is the result.....you get an agency expanded significantly that becomes a form of state policing.

Iran and Pakistan have just thrown out millions of Afghans, all in the space of a year.......Very little reporting of it in the mainstream news for several reasons.....but for all the reasons which right wingers would understand.

Autocracies around the world have, for many years, employed a sound method of engaging ready and willing psychos to do their dirty work, like death squads, torture etc. Release willing nutters from prison and give them a uniform, immunity and a very wide license.

Of course, this is not ICE. But ICE has trappings of it. Dumb arse rednecks with a deep routed racist ideology and obsession with firearms. Those qualities had them rejected from police and even military applications (the latter of which being notoriously lax on psychometric testing) but where ICE opened their arms wide. The best they could get till Trump came along was a security guard at a shopping centre.

And it is these useless, prejudiced nothings who have been handed a badge, a gun and next to zero training and been tasked with crown control.

Did the USA learn nothing from Kent State?

The Land of the Free??

 

[Stirlingsays]

Autocracies around the world have, for many years, employed a sound method of engaging ready and willing psychos to do their dirty work, like death squads, torture etc. Release willing nutters from prison and give them a uniform, immunity and a very wide license.

Of course, this is not ICE. But ICE has trappings of it. Dumb arse rednecks with a deep routed racist ideology and obsession with firearms. Those qualities had them rejected from police and even military applications (the latter of which being notoriously lax on psychometric testing) but where ICE opened their arms wide. The best they could get till Trump came along was a security guard at a shopping centre.

And it is these useless, prejudiced nothings who have been handed a badge, a gun and next to zero training and been tasked with crown control.

Did the USA learn nothing from Kent State?

The Land of the Free??

It's not the land of the free if you break the law and never has been.

Those who went over the border need to go.....they all had the opportunity to self deport.....so really....how you feel about those deporting them doesn't really connect with me. ICE are dealing with criminals impeding them so we aren't going to agree.

As for guns.....It's their system, I agree with some criticisms of it, but I thought the left regarded telling other countries what laws they should and shouldn't have was 'white' or 'western supremacy'.....or whatever bollocks they come up with.

The second amendment isn't changing anytime soon.

That's how we feel about guns in America

 

[eaglesdare]

So it's looks like there was no protest. He was involved in an organised direct action to impede federal agents.

Which is of course illegal.

 

[Xong Kudu]

Problem with life is people are so entrenched with one side or another. The reality is Minnesota is currently full of total idiots ranging from trigger happy ICE Agents on the most serious side, to idiot protesters (god rest his soul) who went armed to the teeth to a ‘protest’ or disruptive mission. Then we have gobshite Trump representatives spouting.., and reckless totally nightmare state governors who are just as bad with theirs mouths and have also presided and almost encouraged 100’s of millions dollars of fraud. You wonder whether this turmoil they seem to be stoking is just the distraction they prayed for.

The whole thing is a bloody mess on many fronts but I do think one trigger happy ICE idiot stands most guilty ( subject to investigation) but it was probably a huge mistake based on fear and terrible decision making.

 

[beak]

So it's looks like there was no protest. He was involved in an organised direct action to impede federal agents.

Which is of course illegal.

Impeding people you get shot dead sounds ridiculous even if true.

 

[eaglesdare]

Impeding people you get shot dead sounds ridiculous even if true.

Impeding law enforcement, bringing a gun with two magazines, resisting arrest, creating a high tense situation against untrained officers etc...thats what gets you shot

 

[Frenchaigle]

I haven’t seen any footage yet that shows him restrained?! I’ve seen plenty that shows a violent struggle, non compliant & resisting but none whatsoever of him ‘restrained’.

Let’s just wait for the outcome of the investigation rather than start making things up and banding around allegations such as ‘executed’.

Shot ten times in the back after his weapon was taken off him.
With 6/8 people on you ,one could come to the conclusion that you are restrained ?

 

[beak]

Impeding law enforcement, bringing a gun with two magazines, resisting arrest, creating a high tense situation against untrained officers etc...thats what gets you shot

The gun was in his pants legally. Most of the confusion in GB is that yanks allow the carrying of guns in public.

 

[Frenchaigle]

Impeding law enforcement, bringing a gun with two magazines, resisting arrest, creating a high tense situation against untrained officers etc...thats what gets you shot

Filming law enforcement,legally carrying a concealed fire arm that you carry at all times ,stepping in assisting a woman who has been assaulted ,getting shot in the back 9/10 times by untrained officers .

 

[eaglesdare]

The gun was in his pants legally. Most of the confusion in GB is that yanks allow the carrying of guns in public.

Yes it was. But if you bring a gun to impede law enforcement officers, resist arrest etc..generally there is only one outcome.

Tragic all round.

 

[eaglesdare]

Filming law enforcement,legally carrying a concealed fire arm that you carry at all times ,stepping in assisting a woman who has been assaulted ,getting shot in the back 9/10 times by untrained officers .

Impeding law enforcement, resisting arrest, creating a high tense situation and while bringing a gun legal or not generally ends sad.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Shot ten times in the back after his weapon was taken off him.
With 6/8 people on you ,one could come to the conclusion that you are restrained ?

No.

Have you seen the videos?!

He was certainly not restrained.

Just let them complete the investigation. We can then all discuss the details in a more informed way in due course.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

Filming law enforcement,legally carrying a concealed fire arm that you carry at all times ,stepping in assisting a woman who has been assaulted ,getting shot in the back 9/10 times by untrained officers .

Untrained in what?

 

[Phil’s Barber]

The gun was in his pants legally. Most of the confusion in GB is that yanks allow the carrying of guns in public.

What ‘confusion’ ?

And are you suggesting that most people in GB don’t realise people are legally allowed to have guns in the US?

 

[beak]

Impeding law enforcement, resisting arrest, creating a high tense situation and while bringing a gun legal or not generally ends sad.

7officers were sitting on an unarmed man ,they took the gun off him. Murder.

 

[Spindle]

FAFO

 

[eaglesdare]

7officers were sitting on an unarmed man ,they took the gun off him. Murder.

Sad and tragic all round. Could have easily been avoided....by not being there obstructing law enforcement operations or resisting arrest.

 

[Phil’s Barber]

7officers were sitting on an unarmed man ,they took the gun off him. Murder.

You are seriously deluded.

There are THREE people who are in physical contact, trying to restrain Pretti when another agent (in very close proximity) steps back in an alarmed fashion and draws his side arm. One, possibly two of those in physical contact with Pretti at that moment could be described as being on top of the subject. He was not restrained, it was a violent struggle. This is immediately prior to a number of shots being discharged.

There were NOT seven officers sitting on him. Just stop with the lies and false information.

 

[HKOwen]

Autocracies around the world have, for many years, employed a sound method of engaging ready and willing psychos to do their dirty work, like death squads, torture etc. Release willing nutters from prison and give them a uniform, immunity and a very wide license.

Of course, this is not ICE. But ICE has trappings of it. Dumb arse rednecks with a deep routed racist ideology and obsession with firearms. Those qualities had them rejected from police and even military applications (the latter of which being notoriously lax on psychometric testing) but where ICE opened their arms wide. The best they could get till Trump came along was a security guard at a shopping centre.

And it is these useless, prejudiced nothings who have been handed a badge, a gun and next to zero training and been tasked with crown control.

Did the USA learn nothing from Kent State?

The Land of the Free??

How many ICE agents have you met? How familar are you with the training they receive?

 

[HKOwen]

You are seriously deluded.

There are THREE people who are in physical contact, trying to restrain Pretti when another agent (in very close proximity) steps back in an alarmed fashion and draws his side arm. One, possibly two of those in physical contact with Pretti at that moment could be described as being on top of the subject. He was not restrained, it was a violent struggle. This is immediately prior to a number of shots being discharged.

There were NOT seven officers sitting on him. Just stop with the lies and false information.

Good luck with that, when the facts don't suit the narrative, make up some