US Politics

[Frenchaigle]

Watching paint dry is more appealing!

At least you don’t feel the need to chuck things at the tv because of the number of outright lies.

Newspeak sandwich washed down with that delicious kool aid 😂

 

[beak]

It could just be that those with fewer qualifications have lower paid jobs, live in less affluent areas and are more disillusioned with the established political system so vote for a President they regard as an outsider.

Is that a long winded way of saying Redneck. 😉

 

[Stirlingsays]

Yes Owen, being highly educated has absolutely no correlation with intelligence. And further education absolutely does not teach you objective rational thought and challenging what you are told. Absolutely not. What a waste of time for all concerned.

The mental gymnastics you lot have to play with yourselves to rationalise your own positions is quite something to behold.

Someone's intelligence level is mainly genetic.

Education allows someone to express themselves more effectively, learn skills that match white collar professions (levels in writing/maths), and create the necessary contacts to succeed in life...the latter point being far more important than many realise.

Essentially it allows someone to fulfill potential that was always there.

Its effect on actual intelligence is minimal.

 

[beak]

Like I said Karoline comes with receipts ...you just come with excuses 👍

My mate sees a lady frequently she gives receipts.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

The mental gymnastics you lot have to play with yourselves to rationalise your own positions is quite something to behold.

a bit like the mental gymnastics of living in a society that fails to protect girls while simultaneously being a dad yourself ? Its shocking the price some people pay to gloat upon the altar of righteous political correctness.

The truth behind the disappearance of Charlene Downes: ‘She was reduced to this salacious, shocking story’

When Nicola Thorp was growing up in Blackpool, the ‘kebab girl’ who had gone missing less than a mile away, aged 14, was spoken of as a cautionary tale. But what really happened to her? For the last three years, Thorp has been finding out

www.theguardian.com

 

[PalazioVecchio]

My mate sees a lady frequently she gives receipts.

but no refund if you cannot perform ? just ask Donald Trump ?

 

[Teddy Eagle]

Is that a long winded way of saying Redneck. 😉

I prefer working class.

 

[PalazioVecchio]

Someone's intelligence level is mainly genetic.

Education allows someone to express themselves more effectively,

Essentially it allows someone to fulfill potential that was always there.

the paradox being....
that we all know a) thugs who left school at age 12 and made millions in business ( Legit business, not crime)..... and b) we all know fellas with a ton of degrees etc who are total losers and will always be poor.

Education is the badge of your enslavement. Many insiders, at the top, barely finished school. In medieval times, none of the aristocracy were educated. They were illiterate and left the reading to Monks who were celibate and poor.

Imagine studying for an MBA and ending up at the Boardroom working under a drunken Hunter Biden ? The top 10% of jobs seem to have little to do with qualifications or talent. And everything to do with 'getting the nod' from the decision makers.

From college dropout to Taoiseach: Simon Harris TD | Eolas Magazine

eolas Magazine is Ireland's leading policy, politics and business magazine which reaches over 10,000 senior decision-makers and influencers in government, business and the voluntary sector

www.eolasmagazine.ie

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/91hyav/rt

 

[Stirlingsays]

the paradox being....
that we all know a) thugs who left school at age 12 and made millions in business ( Legit business, not crime)..... and b) we all know fellas with a ton of degrees etc who are total losers and will always be poor.

Education is the badge of your enslavement. Many insiders, at the top, barely finished school. In medieval times, none of the aristocracy were educated. They were illiterate and left the reading to Monks who were celibate and poor.

Imagine studying for an MBA and ending up at the Boardroom working under a drunken Hunter Biden ? The top 10% of jobs seem to have little to do with qualifications or talent. And everything to do with 'getting the nod' from the decision makers.

From college dropout to Taoiseach: Simon Harris TD | Eolas Magazine

eolas Magazine is Ireland's leading policy, politics and business magazine which reaches over 10,000 senior decision-makers and influencers in government, business and the voluntary sector

www.eolasmagazine.ie

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/91hyav/rt

Ideally you want a system where your IQ level and thus ability matches your attainment level. In the past it worked better, perhaps in part because it was more brutal, even though that proved effective (though those systems had other flaws).

I've mentioned the political aspect that influences many white collar professions from public to corporate in the modern day which can disfigure attainment level from IQ.

So because socioeconomic structures are human it means that they aren't purely meritocratic in the sense of rewarding cognitive ability alone.

This isn't always the system's fault by any means. The people with high abilities who fail to achieve their potential often have other problems that restrict or block them....sometimes self inflicted, sometimes not.

Socioeconomic structures heavily rewards completed credentials and those credentials open pathways, which obviously advantage those who navigate the system successfully — often those with higher intelligence, but also those with other advantages like family resources, motivation, networks, or simply persistence.

And of course....brown nosing.

 

[beak]

I prefer working class.

Working like "working girl" might cause a misunderstanding, two nations separated by the same language- Winston Churchill.

 

[Wisbech Eagle]

You seem to be missing his point.

It's not specifically about California, which still has a firm body of Republican voters (and was a red state before Reagan's amnesty for illegals).

The point was about profession types and the types of voters found within them.

The point PalazioVecchio made chimes well with my experiences within teaching. If you are right wing and that's known, you won't be favoured for promotion and will find it harder to progress your career. Thus certain professions become dominated by the left and a political group think.

In the past, back in more socially conservative times, being left wing within a more conservative profession wasn't death for your career. Mainly due to the right wing's respect for merit, as in if you were good at your job your politics wasn't considered as important..

Whereas today, if you are in certain professions and it becomes known that you are right wing....they consider you a problem and the left won't promote you regardless of merit.

Any teacher who brings their politics into the classroom deserves to see their career prospects impacted. Whatever those politics are. A teacher teaches the curriculum. Nothing else. If that curriculum teaches the values of social responsibility and social democracy then they must teach them. If they object to the curriculum and seek change then they must do so at the ballot box, not in the classroom or in school. Those unable to accept this are unfit to teach.

This doesn’t apply to other professions in quite the same way.

 

[Common Sense Club]

Any teacher who brings their politics into the classroom deserves to see their career prospects impacted. Whatever those politics are. A teacher teaches the curriculum. Nothing else. If that curriculum teaches the values of social responsibility and social democracy then they must teach them. If they object to the curriculum and seek change then they must do so at the ballot box, not in the classroom or in school. Those unable to accept this are unfit to teach.

This doesn’t apply to other professions in quite the same way.

You've sort of agreed with your opponents. By forcing teachers to teach what they may not believe is true or necessary, they become 'unfit to teach' and so may leave the profession, being replaced by someone who has an opposing view. The liberal left gradually take over the system.

 

[beak]

You've sort of agreed with your opponents. By forcing teachers to teach what they may not believe is true or necessary, they become 'unfit to teach' and so may leave the profession, being replaced by someone who has an opposing view. The liberal left gradually take over the system.

Liberal thinking is the way forward ,teaching that the Earth is flat etc. is not as fashionable as it was unless you are Trump or one of his puppets.

 

[HKOwen]

Yes Owen, being highly educated has absolutely no correlation with intelligence. And further education absolutely does not teach you objective rational thought and challenging what you are told. Absolutely not. What a waste of time for all concerned.

The mental gymnastics you lot have to play with yourselves to rationalise your own positions is quite something to behold.

Most of your posts are simply abuse, you seldom try any reasoned argument, proves my point about university in your case IMO.

 

[HKOwen]

Liberal thinking is the way forward ,teaching that the Earth is flat etc. is not as fashionable as it was unless you are Trump or one of his puppets.

Who teaches the earth is flat?

 

[Common Sense Club]

Liberal thinking is the way forward ,teaching that the Earth is flat etc. is not as fashionable as it was unless you are Trump or one of his puppets.

Beak, the point is if you have a different opinion you are ostracised; there is no debate as to why you are right or wrong, just exclusion. Nobody is teaching that the Earth is flat so if you rein in your example to something more relevant my point gains traction.

 

[beak]

Beak, the point is if you have a different opinion you are ostracised; there is no debate as to why you are right or wrong, just exclusion. Nobody is teaching that the Earth is flat so if you rein in your example to something more relevant my point gains traction.

When I finish rationalizing Edward Lear's works I will give it some thought, he does a good line in nonsense.

 

[silvertop]

Imagine my shock.

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Yes, but hardly news.

Are you now going to make some prediction about the sun rising tomorrow?

 

[Stirlingsays]

Any teacher who brings their politics into the classroom deserves to see their career prospects impacted. Whatever those politics are. A teacher teaches the curriculum. Nothing else. If that curriculum teaches the values of social responsibility and social democracy then they must teach them. If they object to the curriculum and seek change then they must do so at the ballot box, not in the classroom or in school. Those unable to accept this are unfit to teach.

This doesn’t apply to other professions in quite the same way.

Ha!

We have the same opinion on that, though probably not for the reasons you think.

Regardless, politics....especially in the humanities often makes its way into lessons, dependent upon the teacher and the school ethos.

Regardless, political action within jobs that aren't political in nature, should be frowned upon as part of work culture.....but we live in the real world, not a fantasy.

 

[silvertop]

It could just be that those with fewer qualifications have lower paid jobs, live in less affluent areas and are more disillusioned with the established political system so vote for a President they regard as an outsider.

That's what gets him in.

It's those who stay with him thereafter in the face of...

All you need is one young, handsome, charismatic, white male from either party to emerge and he's toast.

(Obvs he cant run again, but you get the gist)